Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

How will Eren be stopped?


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Problem with woke authors with modern capeshit cartoons has been that they have been blinded by their virtue signaling and accidentally redpilled some normies. I don't watch marvel movies so I don't know what the Thanos speech was, but sometimes they accidentally end up giving full /pol/ level speeches that will not chase off some of the normies.
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Its not from Western comics. Its from Western movies. Isayama consumes Western media (GOT, MCU) but not the comics themselves. The Thanos scenes are these two in particular:


I'm DEFINETLY expecting the 'what did it cost you' speech because that has been meme worthy and Isayama is oblivious.

This is the same feeling I got out of Parasyte, which I discussed in another thread. There was a mystery surrounding everything, but the author just said, "fuck you" and threw it aside in favor of pretentious navel-gazing bullshit.

Also, your mention of JJ Abrams made me remember this gem from the OG Nuzlocke Comics:
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I mean, Parasyte I always felt like there was more like you said, but the author basically decided against going down that path. Which I can sort of respect. Since the whole mystery wasn't really well developed and it would probably have taken a bit more to flesh out.

Whenever I re-watch Parasyte I always expect something more but it falls just short. Honestly, its better that way than a fake bullshit mystery that gets abandoned.

It is JJ Abrhamnitis, for sure. You're presented with mysteries, but no real answers, or answers that don't make any sense whatsoever. I fucking hate Abrhams. He's a shit writer and should never be allowed to touch a pen or a fucking keyboard. He can direct fine. But he should NEVER be allowed anywhere near a writer's room ever again.
 
Its not from Western comics. Its from Western movies. Isayama consumes Western media (GOT, MCU) but not the comics themselves. The Thanos scenes are these two in particular:


I'm DEFINETLY expecting the 'what did it cost you' speech because that has been meme worthy and Isayama is oblivious.
I conflated the marvel comics and movies into the same thing since I haven't watched either of them.

Still, I can see Eren's motivation to kill all the non Paradise folk. It's not moral, like Thanos killing half the people in the universe (If I got that right). Still I can see his motivation. The assembly of the cringevengers still takes the cake with collecting all the monsters of the past genocides to somehow work together. Especially Annie forgiveness is hilarious. When the motivation of the "good guys" is so shitty, I'll take that the bad guy will win for once for better or worse. Too many western movies and such never give the win for the "bad guy".
 
I conflated the marvel comics and movies into the same thing since I haven't watched either of them.

Still, I can see Eren's motivation to kill all the non Paradise folk. It's not moral, like Thanos killing half the people in the universe (If I got that right). Still I can see his motivation. The assembly of the cringevengers still takes the cake with collecting all the monsters of the past genocides to somehow work together. Especially Annie forgiveness is hilarious. When the motivation of the "good guys" is so shitty, I'll take that the bad guy will win for once for better or worse. Too many western movies and such never give the win for the "bad guy".
Well, to be fair, Thanos does win and kill half the people in the universe. Though Infinity War is so much better than Endgame. But yes, he kills half the people in the universe because his belief is that by not doing so everyone dies. Which is why he is called the Mad Titan. So it is extremely similar to Eren's point of view. But Thanos is infinitely better written. End Game fumbles hard though, but its not awful. Them not including Adam Warlock or Death really hurt it IMO. Also undoing all of Thanos' character development in Endgame and making him a cookie cutter villian really fucking sucked.

I mean, honestly, I know I went over this endlessly, but nothing in 137 makes any sort of fucking sense. Its kind of astonishing when I read it, nothing made any sort of logical sense. Except for Armin has magical powers of persuasion that he can even persuade the dead to do what he wants. And his faggot one liner just made me laugh.

And the thing of them just basically getting over all of their differences...holy shit that was fucking cringe. Shit doesn't work like that. It was so fucking awfully done.

But again, Eren's plan is stupid, the cringe avengers are stupid, Armin's magic "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE" is fucking stupid, Zeke dying and magically stopping the rumbling is stupid...I could go on. The whole manga has been fucking retarded for a long time. It just hasn't been retardedly funny. We need more Eren's head getting blasted off moments. Its just plain old bad and stupid, not funny bad stupid.

I know what Isayama was going for. He didn't want Eren to win (or just lacked the balls to do it) but had no idea how to make it happen but still wanted a huge showdown. Except he completely fucked it. Its just a massive clusterfuck. Its fucking hilarious to see 4chan go from "OMG THIS MANGA IS KINO OF KINO" to "This is trash, we should just slit Isayama's throat". It just felt like "Well, everyone liked the Avengers right? Let me just do that."

Like AoT's ending should have the impact of Makima's 'Bang!' in Chainsaw man (Anyone reading it knows what I'm talking about), both on the emotional level and the level of just being caught off guard. But its just....blegh. Boring, Deus Ex Armin. No impact whatsoever. I just don't see how anyone is excited by 137. Its not clever, its not interesting. The action is boring, there are relatively few surprises, and the ones that are there don't make any fucking sense. I just don't see how you could be satisfied with that as a finale, especially with the shit that came before it. I mean, look at this:


And that's not even a titan fight. With the fucking finale that was 137? Jesus. And that's not even mentioning the fucking anime and how terrible it is. I just don't see how you could be satisfied by it. 137 is probably one of, if not, the weakest fight in the manga. When it should be the strongest. To me, its not even adequate. Its a complete failure as a finale or final conflict. And 138/139 is not going to fucking save it.

I also think the anime is going to die out, because what made the anime so popular was the animation and music. And both of those have pretty much went to shit with season 4, so I have no idea how this is going to hold up. Especially with a ton of shit looking super gorgeous this year and Season 4's budget being cut to the bone and basically mimicking Isayama's garbage art to save money.

And when the Demon Slayer movie comes out....oof. This shit will be unwatchable.
 
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Well, to be fair, Thanos does win and kill half the people in the universe. Though Infinity War is so much better than Endgame. But yes, he kills half the people in the universe because his belief is that by not doing so everyone dies. Which is why he is called the Mad Titan. So it is extremely similar to Eren's point of view. But Thanos is infinitely better written. End Game fumbles hard though, but its not awful. Them not including Adam Warlock or Death really hurt it IMO. Also undoing all of Thanos' character development in Endgame and making him a cookie cutter villian really fucking sucked.

I mean, honestly, I know I went over this endlessly, but nothing in 137 makes any sort of fucking sense. Its kind of astonishing when I read it, nothing made any sort of logical sense. Except for Armin has magical powers of persuasion that he can even persuade the dead to do what he wants. And his faggot one liner just made me laugh.

And the thing of them just basically getting over all of their differences...holy shit that was fucking cringe. Shit doesn't work like that. It was so fucking awfully done.

But again, Eren's plan is stupid, the cringe avengers are stupid, Armin's magic "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE" is fucking stupid, Zeke dying and magically stopping the rumbling is stupid...I could go on. The whole manga has been fucking retarded for a long time. It just hasn't been retardedly funny. We need more Eren's head getting blasted off moments. Its just plain old bad and stupid, not funny bad stupid.

I know what Isayama was going for. He didn't want Eren to win (or just lacked the balls to do it) but had no idea how to make it happen but still wanted a huge showdown. Except he completely fucked it. Its just a massive clusterfuck. Its fucking hilarious to see 4chan go from "OMG THIS MANGA IS KINO OF KINO" to "This is trash, we should just slit Isayama's throat". It just felt like "Well, everyone liked the Avengers right? Let me just do that."

Like AoT's ending should have the impact of Makima's 'Bang!' in Chainsaw man (Anyone reading it knows what I'm talking about), both on the emotional level and the level of just being caught off guard. But its just....blegh. Boring, Deus Ex Armin. No impact whatsoever. I just don't see how anyone is excited by 137. Its not clever, its not interesting. The action is boring, there are relatively few surprises, and the ones that are there don't make any fucking sense. I just don't see how you could be satisfied with that as a finale, especially with the shit that came before it. I mean, look at this:


And that's not even a titan fight. With the fucking finale that was 137? Jesus. And that's not even mentioning the fucking anime and how terrible it is. I just don't see how you could be satisfied by it. 137 is probably one of, if not, the weakest fight in the manga. When it should be the strongest. To me, its not even adequate. Its a complete failure as a finale or final conflict. And 138/139 is not going to fucking save it.

I also think the anime is going to die out, because what made the anime so popular was the animation and music. And both of those have pretty much went to shit with season 4, so I have no idea how this is going to hold up. Especially with a ton of shit looking super gorgeous this year and Season 4's budget being cut to the bone and basically mimicking Isayama's garbage art to save money.

And when the Demon Slayer movie comes out....oof. This shit will be unwatchable.

Why are all your posts on the giant zombie animoo so TLDR?
 
I also think the anime is going to die out, because what made the anime so popular was the animation and music. And both of those have pretty much went to shit with season 4, so I have no idea how this is going to hold up. Especially with a ton of shit looking super gorgeous this year and Season 4's budget being cut to the bone and basically mimicking Isayama's garbage art to save money.

And when the Demon Slayer movie comes out....oof. This shit will be unwatchable.
AoT: Junior High had better story and animation. Season 4 was already dead before it even aired.

Also Koutetsujou no Kabaneri is the better AoT. The MC can be based or retarded on a flip of a switch and a half-zombie waifu? easily coomer material. ALSO trains > gay ass walls.
 
I mean, Parasyte I always felt like there was more like you said, but the author basically decided against going down that path. Which I can sort of respect. Since the whole mystery wasn't really well developed and it would probably have taken a bit more to flesh out.

Whenever I re-watch Parasyte I always expect something more but it falls just short. Honestly, its better that way than a fake bullshit mystery that gets abandoned.

It is JJ Abrhamnitis, for sure. You're presented with mysteries, but no real answers, or answers that don't make any sense whatsoever. I fucking hate Abrhams. He's a shit writer and should never be allowed to touch a pen or a fucking keyboard. He can direct fine. But he should NEVER be allowed anywhere near a writer's room ever again.
Well we did get a couple possibilities elaborated on. In particular that it's either the start of an alien invasion that kills the dominant species but maintain the infrastructure, or a domestic species that was is hibernation possibly reacting to a large number of humans worldwide. I don't think it was really necessary to go into a full arc about their origins or anything, I liked them just being part of the world and seeing them, and the main characters react to it and each other. The characters had their arcs, it told the story it wanted to tell, and mc went back to living his life. Though a chapter or two towards the end where they show scientists explaining more about them would have been neat. Like the part of Hunter x Hunter where they show off and explain the calamities in a secret lab. Maybe it could be framed as a briefing for the soldiers (cops? idr) who took on Goto towards the end before that happened.

I'm just glad he didn't go with the original ending where the mc lets Goto live. The version we did get where he makes a final decision in favor of the human race over Goto's "right to live" was rational, impactful, and delivered in a matter of fact way I enjoyed.

No impact whatsoever. I just don't see how anyone is excited by 137. Its not clever, its not interesting. The action is boring, there are relatively few surprises, and the ones that are there don't make any fucking sense. I just don't see how you could be satisfied with that as a finale, especially with the shit that came before it. I mean, look at this:


And that's not even a titan fight. With the fucking finale that was 137? Jesus. And that's not even mentioning the fucking anime and how terrible it is. I just don't see how you could be satisfied by it. 137 is probably one of, if not, the weakest fight in the manga. When it should be the strongest. To me, its not even adequate. Its a complete failure as a finale or final conflict. And 138/139 is not going to fucking save it.
I thought this was gonna be a good action arc until I realized he's just drawing titans punching each other while the story happens and not actually writing or choreographing a battle. There's a few cool-looking moments and the titan designs are cool as hell on their own, but it's like he thought cool monsters would carry the whole arc. It doesn't feel tense or dangerous, Zeke's assault on Shiganshina with two shifters and a comparatively small unit of pure titans was more overwhelming than this literal army of shifters, and the scouts actually had an idea of what was coming before the Shiganshina battle started. They have a couple extra shifters here but their weapons and skills are basically the same. Hell this was the first time any of them besides Levi fought a mob of titans in years but they mowed through them with zero casualties.

This was a perfunctory series of events leading to the climax. Actually no that was the fight over the plane prior to this. This was a level of Dynasty Warriors. Not one of the good ones either. Which really sucks cause I love the idea of this final battle. But making it realistic would be impossible with the numbers they have. Plus Isayama might think good guys have to win harder than usual because this is the end, so somehow nobody has died.

Suddenly I'm not so confident about them adapting chainsaw man.
The author even said he was worried it's going to look like a less good Dorohedoro or Jujutsu Kaisen.
 
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Honestly I feel like everyone hyping themselves up for a GOT Season 8 style meltdown are going to just set themselves up for disappointment. Since Attack on Titan's western fanbase (don't know much about the Eastern fanbase and 2ch is not the most accurate representation afaik) is mostly made up of normies who are enjoying every bit of this as despite the GOT influences, AOT's fanbase is very similar to the Walking Dead TV fanbase since that too is mostly enjoyed by normies while there are jaded fans who hate the current state of the series and actively make fun of it while the normies eat everything up.

The GOT meltdown also happened since the story was mostly D&D's own failure whereas the TV series was good prior when they had stuff to adapt as then D&D did their own thing (after having nothing left to adapt) and actively just went to fuck off from GOT despite HBO even offering to fund future seasons which D&D didn't want due to wanting to leave the show and work for Disney on Star Wars. This resulted in a purposefully rushed and poorly baked story that lazily resolved things in the dumbest way possible and it didn't help that there was a larger attachment to Game of Thrones as there were 8 straight years worth of attachment and extreme mainstream attention compared to most popular live action series as Game of Thrones ending on a strong note could've made itself culturally important as Lord of the Rings or Star Wars' original trilogy, that is how huge the show was.

In comparison, Attack on Titan didn't get as much mainstream attention in the west after Season 1 ended and seemed to have no content (anime-wise) for 4 years with it being seen as a good show with a nice chunk of people calling it mediocre/overrated, and it didn't get much major hype that it currently has until Season 3 Part 2 which was further amplified by the "final season" coming out but it wasn't to the same level as Game of Thrones.

However, a GOT-level meltdown could possibly happen but not to the same extent if one of the following happen:

- MAPPA shits the bed with the series and decides to adapt the remaining content (if the 16 episode season idea is true since there are no official statements beyond the amount of episodes on the DVD/Blue-ray) into a movie format or veer offscript in the dumbest way possible

- Isayama throws a curveball that makes the ending extremely dumb that pisses off everybody in a way that would unleash a large amount of anger that can not even be salvaged by the anime.

- Isayama makes Eren win somehow which will come out of nowhere and piss off the normie fanbase while the Erenfags cheer on how much of a genius Isayama is.

As it currently stands (since I could be proven wrong), Isayama will likely play the ending safe where the normies will be satisfied while only the Erenfags will seethe that genocide didn't happen and try to cope hard in the dumbest ways possible.
 
AoT: Junior High had better story and animation. Season 4 was already dead before it even aired.

Also Koutetsujou no Kabaneri is the better AoT. The MC can be based or retarded on a flip of a switch and a half-zombie waifu? easily coomer material. ALSO trains > gay ass walls.
I love Koutetsujou no Kabaneri. Doesn't fuck with the premise plus you have the trains


and I just think its cooler. It doesn't try to be some fucking retarded WWII analogue or GoT, or whatever flavor of the fucking month Isayama was watching. When people go looking for more AoT stuff, that will be there. Plus it looks really purty.

I also thought about the AoT games, sadly this ending sort of fucks them, though there is a sequence in the second AoT game where if you're baller enough, you can save Petra and the entirety of Levi's squad. So the games don't have to go where this stupid shitpile is going.
Well we did get a couple possibilities elaborated on. In particular that it's either the start of an alien invasion that kills the dominant species but maintain the infrastructure, or a domestic species that was is hibernation possibly reacting to a large number of humans worldwide. I don't think it was really necessary to go into a full arc about their origins or anything, I liked them just being part of the world and seeing them, and the main characters react to it and each other. The characters had their arcs, it told the story it wanted to tell, and mc went back to living his life. Though a chapter or two towards the end where they show scientists explaining more about them would have been neat. Like the part of Hunter x Hunter where they show off and explain the calamities in a secret lab. Maybe it could be framed as a briefing for the soldiers (cops? idr) who took on Goto towards the end before that happened.

I'm just glad he didn't go with the original ending where the mc lets Goto live. The version we did get where he makes a final decision in favor of the human race over Goto's "right to live" was rational, impactful, and delivered in a matter of fact way I enjoyed.


I thought this was gonna be a good action arc until I realized he's just drawing titans punching each other while the story happens and not actually writing or choreographing a battle. There's a few cool-looking moments and the titan designs are cool as hell on their own, but it's like he thought cool monsters would carry the whole arc. It doesn't feel tense or dangerous, Zeke's assault on Shiganshina with two shifters and a comparatively small unit of pure titans was more overwhelming than this literal army of shifters, and the scouts actually had an idea of what was coming before the Shiganshina battle started. They have a couple extra shifters here but their weapons and skills are basically the same. Hell this was the first time any of them besides Levi fought a mob of titans in years but they mowed through them with zero casualties.

This was a perfunctory series of events leading to the climax. Actually no that was the fight over the plane prior to this. This was a level of Dynasty Warriors. Not one of the good ones either. Which really sucks cause I love the idea of this final battle. But making it realistic would be impossible with the numbers they have. Plus Isayama might think good guys have to win harder than usual because this is the end, so somehow nobody has died.


The author even said he was worried it's going to look like a less good Dorohedoro or Jujutsu Kaisen.
That was the original ending? Holy fucking shit. Yeah, the ending we got was so much better. But I don't think we needed an explanation. After all, the Parasytes don't know themselves. But I enjoyed it, even if its flaws.

The problem, with the last third of AoT, is it just becomes Flesh Kaiju's punching each other. And these flesh Kaiju are INCREDIBLY hard to kill. Like the time Reiner stuffed his nervous system up his asshole or Eren's head getting blown off in the absolutely defining moment of the series.

This causes the most important thing the first third had to go down the shitter: Stakes. The stakes are so much lower. Not even Eren's genocide is going to raise them, because he's not going after any of the mains. He's just killing people we don't care about. And the Shifters are going to do most of the fighting unless you've got combat Gods like Mikasa (who STILL doesn't do jack shit) or Levi (who gets blown the fuck up).

And war? Meh. Getting shot is nowhere near as horrifying as slowly being ripped apart and fucking eaten. Fuck, one mortar blast and gunshot and its lights out. You're not getting squeezed and slowly torn apart by this unknowing 'thing'.

Attack on Titan worked because you had these agile, vulnerable people against these horrifying monsters and one mistake and you were likely badly injured or fucking dead. That's completely lost after the basement.

I mean...if you're going to win against overwhelming odds, unless you're a Marvel movie, a lot of people typically fucking die. Most of the main cast even. Look at Fury, the tank movie with Brad Pitt. Fucking EVERYONE dies. And the only reason the new guy lives is because a German soldier has had enough death and lets him live. Otherwise the entire fucking cast, dies.

Obviously them winning wouldn't be realistic, but there's been tons of good fiction where futile pushes to the end, no matter the odds, have been done. Heroes knowing they're going to lose, but still, they go out and do their duty to protect others. Which, you know, makes them heroes. And there's been fiction where all the heroes sacrifice themselves, to still go on to cause the villain to have a phyrric victory. The problem is he removed all sort of sympathy and emotion from Eren for him to give a shit enough over killing his friends.

Them falling one by one to Eren in spite of it all would have been a better ending than...whatever the fuck this low stakes trash was.

The only thing that can salvage this is that somehow Eren needed the founder's power and to activate the rumbling and die to break the time loop. Don't ask me how or why, none of this shit needs to make any sense anymore. Because Isayama certainly isn't fucking thinking about it.
Honestly I feel like everyone hyping themselves up for a GOT Season 8 style meltdown are going to just set themselves up for disappointment. Since Attack on Titan's western fanbase (don't know much about the Eastern fanbase and 2ch is not the most accurate representation afaik) is mostly made up of normies who are enjoying every bit of this as despite the GOT influences, AOT's fanbase is very similar to the Walking Dead TV fanbase since that too is mostly enjoyed by normies while there are jaded fans who hate the current state of the series and actively make fun of it while the normies eat everything up.

The GOT meltdown also happened since the story was mostly D&D's own failure whereas the TV series was good prior when they had stuff to adapt as then D&D did their own thing (after having nothing left to adapt) and actively just went to fuck off from GOT despite HBO even offering to fund future seasons which D&D didn't want due to wanting to leave the show and work for Disney on Star Wars. This resulted in a purposefully rushed and poorly baked story that lazily resolved things in the dumbest way possible and it didn't help that there was a larger attachment to Game of Thrones as there were 8 straight years worth of attachment and extreme mainstream attention compared to most popular live action series as Game of Thrones ending on a strong note could've made itself culturally important as Lord of the Rings or Star Wars' original trilogy, that is how huge the show was.

In comparison, Attack on Titan didn't get as much mainstream attention in the west after Season 1 ended and seemed to have no content (anime-wise) for 4 years with it being seen as a good show with a nice chunk of people calling it mediocre/overrated, and it didn't get much major hype that it currently has until Season 3 Part 2 which was further amplified by the "final season" coming out but it wasn't to the same level as Game of Thrones.

However, a GOT-level meltdown could possibly happen but not to the same extent if one of the following happen:

- MAPPA shits the bed with the series and decides to adapt the remaining content (if the 16 episode season idea is true since there are no official statements beyond the amount of episodes on the DVD/Blue-ray) into a movie format or veer offscript in the dumbest way possible

- Isayama throws a curveball that makes the ending extremely dumb that pisses off everybody in a way that would unleash a large amount of anger that can not even be salvaged by the anime.

- Isayama makes Eren win somehow which will come out of nowhere and piss off the normie fanbase while the Erenfags cheer on how much of a genius Isayama is.

As it currently stands (since I could be proven wrong), Isayama will likely play the ending safe where the normies will be satisfied while only the Erenfags will seethe that genocide didn't happen and try to cope hard in the dumbest ways possible.
The thing is, it was never really the story that made AoT popular.

It was the music and the animation both first. That's what honestly drew me in. The amazing animation, the music, and then the premise. And then season 4 literally loses all of them. It isn't a mystery to me why Season 4 is getting a terrible adaption.

I know 'normies' are enjoying it, but it doesn't fucking matter because their love of AoT has shifted to Demon Slayer and that has like fucking 15 volumes left so we won't be getting rid of them any time soon. That's the only reason I was excited for a collapse for fucking normies to leave. So now the normies have Demon Slayer and that doesn't shit the bed (its actually ended) so we'll have them forever now so fuck.

I'm actually enjoying the 4chan, anime autist melt down of "THIS IS SO FUCKING KINO" to "I want to fucking die, this is the worst shit ever." way more than any normie melt down. Normies will always have shit taste, be fucking retarded and not understand a single fucking thing about narrative. I don't expect them to, because normies are faggots and a cancer on anything half-way decent (I have no fucking clue how any of them are still watching TWD). There will still be cosplay fags and idiots with scout squad merch (Who I will laugh my ass off at).

As for your scenarios:

- I think MAPPA has already shit the bed and is causing everyone who wanted a Chainsaw Man adaption night terrors because of just how fucking awful Attack on Titan is. They basically took everything that was popular about the series and fucked it into the ground. I still can't believe these guys make Jujutsu Kaisen. They must have given AoT season 4's team a buck fifty to animate.

- Not entirely impossible. But that would require something on the level of "OH! THATS A BASEBALL" which has yet to be topped. I don't think it will. Isayama seems bored and wants to end.

- Only possible IMO through timeloop shennanigans which is also the absolute last resort to save this steaming shitpile. Showing that Eren doing the rumbling and killing everyone was one of many possible futures and just basically retcons the last chapters. If he actually makes Eren's genocide win after this, that's on par with "THATS A BASEBALL". I will never stop fucking laughing.

I think you're absolutely right in Isayama is just going to play it safe because he's bored of 'Attack on Titan'. Like I said, we're going to get a shitty Eren monologue in 138, a teary eyed goodybe and an epilogue in 139 and that will finish off the series in the most absolute, basic bitch way. I guess its funny in its own right, but still sad.

God, this could have been so much more.

In memorium, AoT:

 
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The thing is, it was never really the story that made AoT popular.

It was the music and the animation both first. That's what honestly drew me in. The amazing animation, the music, and then the premise. And then season 4 literally loses all of them. It isn't a mystery to me why Season 4 is getting a terrible adaption.

I know 'normies' are enjoying it, but it doesn't fucking matter because their love of AoT has shifted to Demon Slayer and that has like fucking 15 volumes left so we won't be getting rid of them any time soon. That's the only reason I would be excited. So now the normies have Demon Slayer and that doesn't shit the bed (its actually ended) so we'll have them forever now so fuck.
Not really, most of the normies are praising the adaptation, and I don't think if it was music or animation that it would be the key factor for why people love it (hell there were plenty of times the anime had horrible animation such as the panning shots over still images that were used in the first season, and the use of CG for the more gigantic titans in Season 2 and Season 3. Hell especially with WIT putting 15 animators on an episode where there is only talking and no action.) because even the manga got hyped up which had terrible art to mediocre art. I feel like you are taking your own interests and projecting them onto everyone else since I've seen most normies praise the anime for being dark or having great characters. Hell it says a lot the main takeaway normies had from 137 when the full chapter came out was about Armin and Zeke talking, Jean and Pieck, and Levi getting the hit on Monke rather than the plot stuff.

Also no shit normies would go to Demon Slayer but AOT is the main focus because of how Demon Slayer's second season is not going to be out until later in the year (and the anime is not getting into the meat of the manga yet where as AOT is adapting the final arcs). This applies to many popular mainstream anime as well since there were plenty of anime popular with normies that don't get as much mainstream hype anymore unless new content comes out (i.e. Eva is barely talked about by the public unless a new movie comes out or recently the godawful Netflix dub which brought out Eva fans). AOT will likely end and normies will move onto the next big thing while (depending on the ending), AOT will just be that anime recommended to anime newcomers as baby's first dark anime.

I'm actually enjoying the 4chan, anime autist melt down of "THIS IS SO FUCKING KINO" to "I want to fucking die, this is the worst shit ever." way more than any normie melt down. Normies will always have shit taste, be fucking retarded and not understand a single fucking thing about narrative. I don't expect them to, because normies are faggots and a cancer on anything half-way decent (I have no fucking clue how any of them are still watching TWD). There will still be cosplay fags and idiots with scout squad merch (Who I will laugh my ass off at).
Pretty much, the meltdown for AOT that will be humorous will come from mainly the Erenfags. Normies will like the ending along with the Anitubers unless Isayama shits the bed hard and as I said earlier, will be reduced to as an introductory anime to newcomers while 4chan will have an autistic meltdown.

As for your scenarios:

- I think MAPPA has already shit the bed and is causing everyone who wanted a Chainsaw Man adaption night terrors because of just how fucking awful Attack on Titan is. They basically took everything that was popular about the series and fucked it into the ground. I still can't believe these guys make Jujutsu Kaisen. They must have given AoT season 4's team a buck fifty to animate.

- Not entirely impossible. But that would require something on the level of "THATS A BASEBALL" which has yet to be topped. I don't think it will. Isayama seems bored and wants to end.

- Only possible IMO through timeloop shennanigans which is also the absolute last resort to save this steaming shitpile. Showing that Eren doing the rumbling and killing everyone was one of many possible futures and just basically retcons the last chapters. If he actually makes Eren genocide win after this, that's on par with "THATS A BASEBALL". I will never stop fucking laughing.

I think you're absolutely right in Isayama is just going to play it safe because he's bored of 'Attack on Titan'. Like I said, we're going to get a shitty Eren monologue in 138, a teary eyed goodybe and an epilogue in 139 and that will finish off the series in the most absolute, basic bitch way.

- MAPPA's animation has mostly gone unnoticed by normalfags and the manga fags only got extremely pissed because of how they animated Eren putting on his jacket, if they fuck up fight sequences really poorly or any major moments from the anime that will be where the anger will go towards in regards to animation.

For the last two pretty much and Isayama likely wants to play it safe both because he wants to end AOT and that he doesn't want to piss off his fanbase off too much (Erenfags notwithstanding) and it helps for Isayama's convenience that Japan doesn't give as much of a shit to story endings as Westerners do so he'll likely do something else with normies praising this while 2ch/4chan and Erenfags in general will have meltdowns (especially the Erenfags who A-Log every character in the series who doesn't like or goes against Eren).

The manga will likely go in a safe way, the anime will likely do the same unless MAPPA does a movie adaptation which will elicit more anger given how much time will be wasted, and most fans will just enjoy it and move onto the next big anime with discussion about AOT relegated to really Anitubers and Erenfag seething.
 
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The attack on titan fandom is really high IQ, and, to be fair, you need a really high IQ to understand SINGEKINOKOIJIN so...
 
Oh my god, they actually included the scene where Armin totally doesn't jack-off to Annie's crystalized, completely conscious body, and Hitch is perfectly fine with it.

They actually fucking did it.
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I have never understood Annie and Armin. I get that she had a crush on him and that is what caused her to not want to kill him, but she is still a mass murderer who killed quite a few of Armin's friends and survey corps members. Armin didn't even show interest prior to her being revealed to be a titan. He should feel absolutely nothing for her at best, contempt and hatred at worst.

The only trait they seem to share is both being blond...that's pretty much it.
 
I have never understood Annie and Armin. I get that she had a crush on him and that is what caused her to not want to kill him, but she is still a mass murderer who killed quite a few of Armin's friends and survey corps members. Armin didn't even show interest prior to her being revealed to be a titan. He should feel absolutely nothing for her at best, contempt and hatred at worst.

The only trait they seem to share is both being blond...that's pretty much it.
Its 'implied' that he inherits his like of Annie from Berthold but this is always an inference and nothing more than that. Like many things, its a half finished thought that is never expounded upon or explained.
 
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I have never understood Annie and Armin. I get that she had a crush on him and that is what caused her to not want to kill him, but she is still a mass murderer who killed quite a few of Armin's friends and survey corps members. Armin didn't even show interest prior to her being revealed to be a titan. He should feel absolutely nothing for her at best, contempt and hatred at worst.

The only trait they seem to share is both being blond...that's pretty much it.
Like @Secret Asshole said, it's implied it is inherited through the colossal titan. Other possibility is if you believe in the Armin self-insert theory and Annie is the waifu of the author.
 
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Like @Secret Asshole said, it's implied it is inherited through the colossal titan. Other possibility is if you believe in the Armin self-insert theory and Annie is the waifu of the author.
I still believe that Levi was the self-insert at first, but that Eren surpassed him, and is now the current one. I don't think Armin is a self-insert even though he's currently taken center-stage this arc because he's honestly not edgy enough, and because frankly he's always been the one to have to save the day. I know he's always been overshadowed by Mikasa, Eren, Levi, and the rest of SC in the previous arcs, but we have to remember that it's his plans that always end up being the thing that solves everything.

Real talk, I think the whole sudden AruAni thing only happened because Isayama is a tard who's terrible at writing romance, and because he needed to something distract the readers from his extremely blatant backpedaling and retconning of Eren's character.
 
Real talk, I think the whole sudden AruAni thing only happened because Isayama is a tard who's terrible at writing romance, and because he needed to something distract the readers from his extremely blatant backpedaling and retconning of Eren's character.
Honestly i think it's just dumb that there's even a romance subplot in these kinds of story. With that basic premise alone you'd think those people are busy just trying to survive. Even when the romance kicked in the characters acted like a fucking middle schooler, blushing and stuttering. These people are like what, in their 19-20? they should be having sex on the spot and stop acting like a prepubecent faggot.

Im glad Eren is a fucking asexual incel retard though because he won't reciprocate Mikasa's feelings. Last thing i wanted in an anime about fighting giant naked men where humanity is at stake is a retarded teenage romance.
 
I was re-watching Kabernari of the Iron Fortress and it is a fuckton better than Attack on Titan. JFC. Probably because like Psycho-Pass and ID: Invaded (both of which I need to watch again), they're anime originals. Which I honestly almost always find better than adaptions.
I still believe that Levi was the self-insert at first, but that Eren surpassed him, and is now the current one. I don't think Armin is a self-insert even though he's currently taken center-stage this arc because he's honestly not edgy enough, and because frankly he's always been the one to have to save the day. I know he's always been overshadowed by Mikasa, Eren, Levi, and the rest of SC in the previous arcs, but we have to remember that it's his plans that always end up being the thing that solves everything.

Real talk, I think the whole sudden AruAni thing only happened because Isayama is a tard who's terrible at writing romance, and because he needed to something distract the readers from his extremely blatant backpedaling and retconning of Eren's character.
I mean, Isayama picks up and abandons pop culture at the drop of a hat. In all seriousness, he's one of the most inconsistent writers I've ever read. Even the shittiest stories I've had the displeasure of reading stay consistent in some manner. He just does not seem at all interested and hasn't seemed interested since the basement ended. So, to be honest, Levi may have been a self insert at one point, and then it was Eren and then it was Armin. Isayama is so terrible it could be all of the above. But its not worth speculating about, because all of it is meaningless and he's a lazy faggot.

Everything has taken the most boring path. From Eren's fucking idiotic turn as a villain when Isayama was implying 4D chess for years (genocide and the rumbling is the most basic move, not complex or 4D at all), to Eren's cookie cutter defeat right out of a Marvel movie. Its fucking awful, especially with the potential there.

I do agree he can't write romance worth a fucking shit which is why basically the entire manga was overtaken by shippers who ignored the trash plot and put characters together to fuck since this manga is quite possibly the most loveless one I've ever read. It's fucking sterile.

I mean, the main romance is between a fucking rock and an autistic retard. He's so bad at romance its impossible to tell if Eren ever hooked up with Historia, which is fucking hysterical to me. It is quite possibly the most obvious relationship in the entire story and he completely fucked it. He's just THAT bad at writing it. He fucked up that EXCEEDINGLY OBVIOUS relationship so much he made who knocked her up look like a fucking mystery on the level of the fucking immaculate conception and then freaked and stuck Historia in a corner, robbing her of all agency, because he doesn't know how to write a relationship. The anime tried DESPERATELY to compensate, but it was stuck with the material. Honestly, its a shame the anime just didn't completely ignore the manga. And I rarely say that. But the quality would have been so much improved. Its just not the way things are done in anime usually though.

God this story is so fucking terrible. I'm glad when this is done Isayama will build a spa and fuck off to it because I never want to see another story from him again. Holy shit. Its so bad, the worst takes on /a/ were better than anything he came up with.
Not really, most of the normies are praising the adaptation, and I don't think if it was music or animation that it would be the key factor for why people love it (hell there were plenty of times the anime had horrible animation such as the panning shots over still images that were used in the first season, and the use of CG for the more gigantic titans in Season 2 and Season 3. Hell especially with WIT putting 15 animators on an episode where there is only talking and no action.) because even the manga got hyped up which had terrible art to mediocre art. I feel like you are taking your own interests and projecting them onto everyone else since I've seen most normies praise the anime for being dark or having great characters. Hell it says a lot the main takeaway normies had from 137 when the full chapter came out was about Armin and Zeke talking, Jean and Pieck, and Levi getting the hit on Monke rather than the plot stuff.

Also no shit normies would go to Demon Slayer but AOT is the main focus because of how Demon Slayer's second season is not going to be out until later in the year (and the anime is not getting into the meat of the manga yet where as AOT is adapting the final arcs). This applies to many popular mainstream anime as well since there were plenty of anime popular with normies that don't get as much mainstream hype anymore unless new content comes out (i.e. Eva is barely talked about by the public unless a new movie comes out or recently the godawful Netflix dub which brought out Eva fans). AOT will likely end and normies will move onto the next big thing while (depending on the ending), AOT will just be that anime recommended to anime newcomers as baby's first dark anime.
I guess since I was never into the whole zombie genre hardcore, it was the mystery, the animation and music that really drew me in.

To me, the manga was NEVER good looking. His style was so fucking terrible I had difficulty discerning characters at some point. It honestly just kept degenerating with the story, I honestly feel after the basement he completely lost interest in what he was writing so basically everything suffered. Well, 137 was pure trash, so not shocking.

I mean, Demon Slayer is far superior in basically every way from AoT and it also has the bonus of being finished and being amazing at the same time. I mean, the fucking manga for Demon Slayer alone outsold the entire Western Comic Industry. Combined. AoT has NEVER had that much popularity. I think AoT will just be a footnote eventually like Game of Thrones. "Yeah, it started out strong, but it ended like trash. Demon Slayer is where you should start."
Pretty much, the meltdown for AOT that will be humorous will come from mainly the Erenfags. Normies will like the ending along with the Anitubers unless Isayama shits the bed hard and as I said earlier, will be reduced to as an introductory anime to newcomers while 4chan will have an autistic meltdown.

- MAPPA's animation has mostly gone unnoticed by normalfags and the manga fags only got extremely pissed because of how they animated Eren putting on his jacket, if they fuck up fight sequences really poorly or any major moments from the anime that will be where the anger will go towards in regards to animation.

For the last two pretty much and Isayama likely wants to play it safe both because he wants to end AOT and that he doesn't want to piss off his fanbase off too much (Erenfags notwithstanding) and it helps for Isayama's convenience that Japan doesn't give as much of a shit to story endings as Westerners do so he'll likely do something else with normies praising this while 2ch/4chan and Erenfags in general will have meltdowns (especially the Erenfags who A-Log every character in the series who doesn't like or goes against Eren).

The manga will likely go in a safe way, the anime will likely do the same unless MAPPA does a movie adaptation which will elicit more anger given how much time will be wasted, and most fans will just enjoy it and move onto the next big anime with discussion about AOT relegated to really Anitubers and Erenfag seething.
I don't think its Isayama playing it safe, I just don't think he gives a shit anymore. He's fully checked out. I mean, he's just copying and pasting other media in order to end this thing. He absolutely does not care. He wants AoT to be done and over with. So the safe ending is just the easiest one. I don't think its because Isayama wants to piss off normies or his fanbase, he just wants it over and this is the easiest way to do it. "Poor Eren got turned around, blah blah blah, here's his perspective and his Thanos speech, and now he dies and here's your epilogue."

I'm going to laugh at everyone who thought this was a kino masterpiece and that will be beautiful. The normies have already moved onto Demon Slayer so there's no point in caring about them. And honestly, Demon Slayer deserves it a lot more than Attack on Titan does.

I just think it'll just be like Game of Thrones, not in the reaction but "yeah it was ok at the start, but the end fucked up so its not really worth watching." I think Demon Slayer will just overtake it completely as the intro anime. Its way easier to get into, way prettier, much better written, is actually thematically consistent and the author actually gives a fuck throughout the entire thing. Plus it does have its share of tragedy and major character deaths. Also, you know, its mysteries are set up well in advance and actually have decent fucking answers. Its a lot easier as baby's first anime then the fucking mess that AoT is.

The only thing that saddens me is that he went for the most boring, the most obvious, the most pathetic ending. Its not batshit like Gantz, its not revealing in any way, it doesn't have the emotional gutpunch of Chainsaw man (I know the manga is ongoing, but it really felt like a finale). It doesn't have the tension and stakes of Demon Slayer.

Its not even funny bad. Its just derivative and boring. And those are the two highest crimes any writer can commit. Its safe in the worst possible way.
 
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