Aug 9 2022 - Continuance on Grand Jury, defense filed motion for autism disorder deferred disposition

[TayandYou]

I really hope it's not the latter.

There will be people coping and seething if it gets continued for a year with locked records, and there will be people coping and seething if Chris walks in a few days. It will be funny as fuck to watch either way.

 

[Quijibo69]

I'm going to say he went to a halfway home. I'll pretty much leave it at that if we never get to hear from him again.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

There will be people coping and seething if it gets continued for a year with locked records, and there will be people coping and seething if Chris walks in a few days. It will be funny as fuck to watch either way.

Just sit back and enjoy the show - the best advice ever given involving Chris.

Or the ultimate killstream: Chris, now being the hardened ex-con that he is, beats the shit out of ralph, and immediately goes back to jail .

I'd do anything to see a Gunt vs Chris match where everything's fair game.

Oddly I think Chris is the only person The Gunt could stand his ground with, but if he made a mistake Chris would flop him.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Oddly I think Chris is the only person The Gunt could stand his ground with, but if he made a mistake Chris would flop him.

I don't know bro they might weigh the same but Chris is about a foot taller, people forget he's a hulk.
Based on Ralph's display of warrior skills against Cogs Chav Manservant, all you'd have to do is convince Chris that Ralph is head of programming for Hasbro and cancelled his Pony fucker show, and his Tard Rage would body the poor Gunt.

 

[A-№1]

I could be wrong, but didn't I read somewhere that large amounts of legos and vidya were showing up in second hand stores around the area?

Large amounts of lego and vidya always show up in second hand stores. It's in their nature.

I believe I speculated at the time that this seems to happen when one particular scheduled event is expected to take longer than the other.

The way another case was added after Chris instead of before, and also that Chris was wobbled up near the end of the month, which would put him at the end of the queue already, makes me tend to think Greene County grand juries operate on a first come, first served basis.

I don't know if this was official policy, but the times¹ I've been on a grand jury it seemed like they scheduled the complicated cases early and left the easy slam dunks for the end when everyone was tired.

I'm pretty sure they already knew what Heilberg was planning, or at the very least, that he was planning something that might turn time-consuming.

But Heilberg would have had nothing to do with the grand jury. Any order for a continuance would have had to come from the presiding judge. Presumably, that is. I have never heard of any case where the grand jury was cock blocked like this before getting to hand down an indictment. Even the one where the defendant died, they still indicted his corpse. The only thing that makes sense to me is that they hadn't gotten to Chris yet before Heilberg's motion for deferred disposition waived indictment, but the judge would have had to accept it, and he doesn't seem to have done that yet.

It's all very fucking weird. Maybe this is just how they do things in rural Virginia.

she told me that this is a case where everyone outside of the defense has absolutely no idea what the fuck to do with Chris's case.

Oh they know exactly what to do with Chris. They're just not allowed to do it any more. Besides, finding a reliable source of tar and feathers might be difficult these days, even in rural Virginia. They're probably online-only items. Also supply chain problems.

The autism deferral isn't an obscure "trick" he discovered in some cobwebbed corner of law.

Deferred disposition isn't the miracle. It's pretty common. Edging a grand jury and then shutting them down on the day of empanelment is.

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¹ Yes, times. Plural. When you live in a small county, you tend to get called for jury duty a lot, especially once they find out you're willing to actually stand. They're probably not supposed to keep a short list like that, but they do.

 

[cuddle striker]

Large amounts of lego and vidya always show up in second hand stores. It's in their nature.




The way another case was added after Chris instead of before, and also that Chris was wobbled up near the end of the month, which would put him at the end of the queue already, makes me tend to think Greene County grand juries operate on a first come, first served basis.

I don't know if this was official policy, but the times¹ I've been on a grand jury it seemed like they scheduled the complicated cases early and left the easy slam dunks for the end when everyone was tired.



But Heilberg would have had nothing to do with the grand jury. Any order for a continuance would have had to come from the presiding judge. Presumably, that is. I have never heard of any case where the grand jury was cock blocked like this before getting to hand down an indictment. Even the one where the defendant died, they still indicted his corpse. The only thing that makes sense to me is that they hadn't gotten to Chris yet before Heilberg's motion for deferred disposition waived indictment, but the judge would have had to accept it, and he doesn't seem to have done that yet.

It's all very fucking weird. Maybe this is just how they do things in rural Virginia.




Oh they know exactly what to do with Chris. They're just not allowed to do it any more. Besides, finding a reliable source of tar and feathers might be difficult these days, even in rural Virginia. They're probably online-only items. Also supply chain problems.




Deferred disposition isn't the miracle. It's pretty common. Edging a grand jury and then shutting them down on the day of empanelment is.

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¹ Yes, times. Plural. When you live in a small county, you tend to get called for jury duty a lot, especially once they find out you're willing to actually stand. They're probably not supposed to keep a short list like that, but they do.

in virginny? tar's on the rud, fevvers are from the chicken ya ate last night.

I'm just hoping whatever happens, we get to see it.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

There will be people coping and seething if it gets continued for a year with locked records, and there will be people coping and seething if Chris walks in a few days. It will be funny as fuck to watch either way.

We could all be happy if he gets a televised show trial with surprise witnesses and then gets sentenced to zap to the extreme at the end of it. Of course that legally can’t happen for a plethora of reasons but it would make pretty much everyone happy.

 

[FinnSven]

I don't know bro they might weigh the same but Chris is about a foot taller, people forget he's a hulk.
Based on Ralph's display of warrior skills against Cogs Chav Manservant, all you'd have to do is convince Chris that Ralph is head of programming for Hasbro and cancelled his Pony fucker show, and his Tard Rage would body the poor Gunt.

I concur.
Ralph also lost to an equally small fat bearded hobbit.
Sure said hobbit was assisted by a human woman while Ralph’s horse skittered and neighed behind, but if Ralph could fight properly, the hobbit should have been nursing a bloody nose while the human woman was shoved over.

A tarding out Chris would be more than a match for a gunt-hog.

 

[Dagᴏth Ur]

I don't know bro they might weigh the same but Chris is about a foot taller, people forget he's a hulk.

Truly a Hulk.

 

[Um...]

I heard Chris got put on probation? This true?

It’s a possibility. Here’s what the Deferred Disposition (on p. 1 of this thread) says:

- in any criminal case, except murder or a violent offense,
- IF the accused enters a plea (either guilty or not guilty)
- AND the Court finds the facts justify a finding of guilty, the Court MAY,
- IF the accused has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist or psychologist with ASD
- AND the Court finds clear and convincing evidence that the criminal conduct was CAUSED by the ASD,
- The Court MAY, with the consent of the accused and without entering a judgement of guilt, and giving due consideration to the prosecution and views of the victim, DEFER further proceedings and place the accused on probation, subject to terms and conditions set by the court.

So probation is a possibility IF certain conditions are met.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Oh they know exactly what to do with Chris. They're just not allowed to do it any more. Besides, finding a reliable source of tar and feathers might be difficult these days, even in rural Virginia. They're probably online-only items. Also supply chain problems.

You could use honney mixed with lard, or Hot Rosin and bee's way as a substitue for Tar, my Personal Prefferance would be for a mix of Pine Resin and Hide glue that shit sticks and the resin makes it REALLY hard to remove.

I'd substitute Hay for the feathers, or pencil shavings, or mince up all his pokemon cards and sprinkle them on him while you make him watch you pulverise his toys into dust.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Truly a Hulk.

Perhaps "Bulk" would have been accurate, but I meant "hulk" more in the sense of a large, looming mass, than a roided out strongman.

 

[Deborah "Debbie" Grayson]

Chris’ main driving forces are his lust and his cowardice. He’s never going to fight anyone unless he can drive them down with his car or mace n’ run. He ain’t fighting anyone fair and square.

 

[PhoBingas]

I think it was either gotten rid of by bob (most likely), barb sold it or it was destroyed in the fire and I can see it being either Bob or the Fire putting pay to any Gun's Chris has even remotely close to touching.

I guess Americans play real fast and loose with gun storage laws. One would think it would have been in at least a basic fire safe, but with how their house is and was it was probably in the night stand or jammed between the mattress and wall.

 

[Blue Whirlwind]

"Review" scheduled for August 2023. Legalfags what does this mean?

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Would like to see the experts weigh in.... but I'm guessing some reddit ween is gonna have a picture of him inside the month

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

I guess Americans play real fast and loose with gun storage laws. One would think it would have been in at least a basic fire safe, but with how their house is and was it was probably in the night stand or jammed between the mattress and wall.

From what little we know about it was likely a Rifle, and it was locked in a Cuboard I know the gun storage requirements in the USA are vastly differnt from the rest of the developed world and can vary from location to location but I can see a old guy like Bob keeping it in a slip in the cuboard with a a box or two of ammunition (if that), the Pistol Barb nearly killed cole with was a separate weapon pre-Bob and was distinctly called a pistol by Cole.

TBH I don't think he had it after they came back from Midloathian, Chris and Bob have just said they "Had" a gun not "Have" so I can see him not really using it often or at all it was just a thing guys his age an demoraphic have and as he got older and Chris became more of a issue he got rid of it.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Deferred disposition isn't the miracle. It's pretty common. Edging a grand jury and then shutting them down on the day of empanelment is.

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Disagree. The sequence of events was very possibly coordinated, or at least communicated, in advance.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

Update split to new thread - https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aug-1...o-indictment-and-transportation-order.126973/