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Having Aspergers honestly is the worst thing ever and I don't understand how anybody can say otherwise.
Autism is not a superpower - ...and I'm tired of people pretending that it is. (aka Vyse bitches and moans for a little bit)
- Thread starter Vyse Inglebard
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"Autism basically makes me smarter than anyone else, I'm basically Spock from Star Trek"
*gets groomed into chopping dick off*
- typical "Autism is a superpowercel"
I like to think that I am pretty good at "reading" people. But the thing is I had to consciously learn how to do that, and it's exhausting. It takes active effort to do what comes to other people naturally. A lot of autists don't ever bother to do this though, if they're not high functioning enough they might not even be able to. I'm pretty good at masking, but I only have a limited amount of energy I can put into it. So don't think I will ever hold down a high volume public facing job because at a certain point it would just be overwhelming.
The one thing autists do have a natural talent for is collecting and organizing data. In past ages, they would have gotten really into collecting baseball cards or birdwatching or something. There are contexts where this is a genuinely useful skill. There's a reason so many programmers are spergs. This might have been a superpower back when rote memorisation and manually navigating databases was more important. But in the current day and age of constantly being drowned in information this just seems to neuroticise them into insanity.
*gets groomed into chopping dick off*
- typical "Autism is a superpowercel"
I like to think that I am pretty good at "reading" people. But the thing is I had to consciously learn how to do that, and it's exhausting. It takes active effort to do what comes to other people naturally. A lot of autists don't ever bother to do this though, if they're not high functioning enough they might not even be able to. I'm pretty good at masking, but I only have a limited amount of energy I can put into it. So don't think I will ever hold down a high volume public facing job because at a certain point it would just be overwhelming.
The one thing autists do have a natural talent for is collecting and organizing data. In past ages, they would have gotten really into collecting baseball cards or birdwatching or something. There are contexts where this is a genuinely useful skill. There's a reason so many programmers are spergs. This might have been a superpower back when rote memorisation and manually navigating databases was more important. But in the current day and age of constantly being drowned in information this just seems to neuroticise them into insanity.
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Charitable love will help you come to love-love that special person who is willing to work with your quirks, and you them. It's something that has to be worked on every day, but it's doable.
I think you can find love. It might end up having to be another high-functioning autistic chick, but you'll know it when it happens if only because you realize you want to get to know her more and you two make a bond in your own little way. That's how my husband and I have been working things out, we're both on the spectrum and are recognizing in this first year there are shortcomings that can be worked on, but also can be made up for by the other stepping in to that particular supporting role. We bonded through common interests but have found comfort in the other's spergings about a topic that's not of personal interest except to that significant other (i.e. makes him happy). I mean, I dunno if he's truly a listener like I am, but he asks questions if just to learn a little more about me and how my thoughts work, and I'm okay with that.
Love is an adventure, but I don't know if many other autists recognize that or care about due to comfort zones. If that's something you can actually see yourself doing if only for a while, I say try it. At least you can gain some life experience and learn more about yourself in the process. Think that's what helps separate the higher functionals from the completely retarded is that ability to self-reflect and being able to recognize yourself as an individual.
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I'm going to risk some major Kiwi farms street cred for this, but I feel if this has a chance to help anyone, it's probably worth it.
I have myself thought to have some form of Aspergers because of numerous difficulties early on in my life. Never sought a professional diagnosis as it's fairly useless and I don't think you have a chance of getting NEETbux here anyway unless you are a complete tard, so therapy had to do for the time being. That changed up until lately, when some chilldhood memories came up and a lot of my difficulties suddenly started to make sense. So much so, that it explains almost everything without me needing to be on the spectrum at all. It also explains why I have some characteristics that are the complete contrary to basic requirements of it. I have an average-to-above average capacity for empathy (took a clinical test for this) as well as rarely feeling like I have to "mask" anything from anyone in social situations. Never had any learning disabilities or major sensory issues.
But you know what I am? A pathological rationalizer. No matter how I feel, my mind constantly finds a way to distract me from what's really bothering me and as a result, I have this pile of unresolved emotional problems I have only recently became fully aware of.
Still trying to make heads and tails of all of it, but I think if the label does you more harm than good, maybe the truth lies a bit deeper and you haven't looked yet.
I have myself thought to have some form of Aspergers because of numerous difficulties early on in my life. Never sought a professional diagnosis as it's fairly useless and I don't think you have a chance of getting NEETbux here anyway unless you are a complete tard, so therapy had to do for the time being. That changed up until lately, when some chilldhood memories came up and a lot of my difficulties suddenly started to make sense. So much so, that it explains almost everything without me needing to be on the spectrum at all. It also explains why I have some characteristics that are the complete contrary to basic requirements of it. I have an average-to-above average capacity for empathy (took a clinical test for this) as well as rarely feeling like I have to "mask" anything from anyone in social situations. Never had any learning disabilities or major sensory issues.
But you know what I am? A pathological rationalizer. No matter how I feel, my mind constantly finds a way to distract me from what's really bothering me and as a result, I have this pile of unresolved emotional problems I have only recently became fully aware of.
Still trying to make heads and tails of all of it, but I think if the label does you more harm than good, maybe the truth lies a bit deeper and you haven't looked yet.
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Normalfags don't have any real friends either, they have fair-weather people pleaser suck ups, drinking buddies, acquaintances and fuckfriends who abandon them immediately at the first sign of trouble. You autists probably learned everything you know about friendship from anime and games, so you think that's how it is in real life, but it's not, it's actually all very superficial, and men especially very rarely form deep friendships, women and children can form deep friendships, men very rarely.
99% of normie friend activities are just them mimicking something they saw in a movie or on social media, and they do it out of sheer FOMO, or to signal how much cool awesome shit they do to other normies. Not because they actually enjoy it for what it is.
It's either 5+ guys following ~2 girls around while trying to one up each another, doing drugs, drinking, or smoking weed, or chitchat around the watercooler, usually about cars, girls, or politics. This isn't anything worth lamenting over, especially since you wouldn't enjoy it anyway. Normies are very socially conscious and often care more about being perceived as cool than having fun. They are very prone to framing bias and tend to judge things based on feelings alone. They are also retarded in their own way.
Normies will never hang out with you or accept you, because being seen near you signals low social status, but you can make friends with schizoids, other autists, and autist aligned normies, this is probably a much better endeavor for you, because you'd probably like interacting with those people a lot more, but you still have to make an effort to socialize and not be grumpy. You also have to weed out the freakazoids, druggies, and trannies.
Any advice on how to socialize runs the risk of being useless due to being too specific, but I would recommend the book "Games People Play" by Eric Berne, it puts into words a lot of what autists can't intuit, you should also be kind of mean to yourself and force yourself to talk to people whenever you get the chance, but don't go spill your spaghetti out in front of anyone important, seek out low-risk situations, people you'll likely never meet again, at the bus stop, the store, the gas station, wherever you see an opportunity to strike up a conversation, go for it. Yes, they'll probably think you're fucking weird and annoying, but what are they gonna do? Lol, you'll be doing it just to learn, and to see how people react. Eventually, you'll learn what works and what doesn't, and you'll be able to manipulate people into thinking you're likable. You CAN learn to socialize, you're just naturally disadvantaged at it.
99% of normie friend activities are just them mimicking something they saw in a movie or on social media, and they do it out of sheer FOMO, or to signal how much cool awesome shit they do to other normies. Not because they actually enjoy it for what it is.
It's either 5+ guys following ~2 girls around while trying to one up each another, doing drugs, drinking, or smoking weed, or chitchat around the watercooler, usually about cars, girls, or politics. This isn't anything worth lamenting over, especially since you wouldn't enjoy it anyway. Normies are very socially conscious and often care more about being perceived as cool than having fun. They are very prone to framing bias and tend to judge things based on feelings alone. They are also retarded in their own way.
Normies will never hang out with you or accept you, because being seen near you signals low social status, but you can make friends with schizoids, other autists, and autist aligned normies, this is probably a much better endeavor for you, because you'd probably like interacting with those people a lot more, but you still have to make an effort to socialize and not be grumpy. You also have to weed out the freakazoids, druggies, and trannies.
Any advice on how to socialize runs the risk of being useless due to being too specific, but I would recommend the book "Games People Play" by Eric Berne, it puts into words a lot of what autists can't intuit, you should also be kind of mean to yourself and force yourself to talk to people whenever you get the chance, but don't go spill your spaghetti out in front of anyone important, seek out low-risk situations, people you'll likely never meet again, at the bus stop, the store, the gas station, wherever you see an opportunity to strike up a conversation, go for it. Yes, they'll probably think you're fucking weird and annoying, but what are they gonna do? Lol, you'll be doing it just to learn, and to see how people react. Eventually, you'll learn what works and what doesn't, and you'll be able to manipulate people into thinking you're likable. You CAN learn to socialize, you're just naturally disadvantaged at it.
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My main advice would be don't be afraid of hanging out with "normies". Yes, a lot of them suck and are a waste of time. But you'd be surprised at how much less toxic they are than your fellow aspies.
I think the single biggest mistake you can make in life is developing an "us vs them" mentality, especially in regards to normal polite society and supposed outcasts. The only people who have tried to convince me I was this mongoloid sperg who needed to be saved all happened to be literal criminals, predatory narcissists, degenerates, or middle aged failure-to-launch manchildren, usually a mixture of all. Meanwhile the people who actively saw the best in me were all the thots, "dudebros", marines and other types I used to have some weird fear were discriminating against me when I was young. I'm paraphrasing but generally you might find the more you hang out with people outside of your circle how pedestrian you are.
Obviously there are plenty of problems with mainstream society. They popularize the worst political ideals, they're fickle and boring and backstabbing. But you can gel with them better than you might think. Also just because some people aren't wearing their autism on their literal sleeze, you would be surprised how much people might generally share a common interest with you. I've met niggas and gymbros who will get excited about anime, I've talked to normal women who love edgy humor and my best friend is a fit marine who's doing quite well at life.
Another thing is generally people care less about how much of an awkward retard you are if you are good at presenting it. If you try to just be the quiet guy who never makes conversation or has no sense of self you're just going to look like a potential school shooter and people will avoid you. But if you can have a degree of confidence and talk about what you like with some enthusiasm or charisma while also trying to understand how conversational flow works... you'll be relatively fine. This all depends on where you are and the crowd you're around but personally speaking I've done a lot better socially when I've embraced who I was and cared less about others' thoughts than when I was some quiet guy who never let people in.
Autism nowadays is both severely over and under diagnosed. You might not have the literal capital A autism and you might just be a slightly awkward dude who's different. That usually comes from generally a lot of trauma, being relatively more 'aware' of the world than the average retard, or just having different interests. Overall, if you think you're that bad... you're probably not. I think I'm the biggest sperg I know, and I've still fucked, held down a job and have made friends. I don't have many but the few I do fit the mold of being the type I genuinely enjoy the company of. Took a long time to get there though.
I think the single biggest mistake you can make in life is developing an "us vs them" mentality, especially in regards to normal polite society and supposed outcasts. The only people who have tried to convince me I was this mongoloid sperg who needed to be saved all happened to be literal criminals, predatory narcissists, degenerates, or middle aged failure-to-launch manchildren, usually a mixture of all. Meanwhile the people who actively saw the best in me were all the thots, "dudebros", marines and other types I used to have some weird fear were discriminating against me when I was young. I'm paraphrasing but generally you might find the more you hang out with people outside of your circle how pedestrian you are.
Obviously there are plenty of problems with mainstream society. They popularize the worst political ideals, they're fickle and boring and backstabbing. But you can gel with them better than you might think. Also just because some people aren't wearing their autism on their literal sleeze, you would be surprised how much people might generally share a common interest with you. I've met niggas and gymbros who will get excited about anime, I've talked to normal women who love edgy humor and my best friend is a fit marine who's doing quite well at life.
Another thing is generally people care less about how much of an awkward retard you are if you are good at presenting it. If you try to just be the quiet guy who never makes conversation or has no sense of self you're just going to look like a potential school shooter and people will avoid you. But if you can have a degree of confidence and talk about what you like with some enthusiasm or charisma while also trying to understand how conversational flow works... you'll be relatively fine. This all depends on where you are and the crowd you're around but personally speaking I've done a lot better socially when I've embraced who I was and cared less about others' thoughts than when I was some quiet guy who never let people in.
Autism nowadays is both severely over and under diagnosed. You might not have the literal capital A autism and you might just be a slightly awkward dude who's different. That usually comes from generally a lot of trauma, being relatively more 'aware' of the world than the average retard, or just having different interests. Overall, if you think you're that bad... you're probably not. I think I'm the biggest sperg I know, and I've still fucked, held down a job and have made friends. I don't have many but the few I do fit the mold of being the type I genuinely enjoy the company of. Took a long time to get there though.
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I second this @Vyse Inglebard . Its better to be the spergy guy on speaking terms with normals than it is to surround yourself with dysfunctional outcasts. Normies are fickle and often shallow but the people who fucked me over deliberately or excluded me were the outcast types and the ones who thought they were too cool for the crowd. Thats not to say ive never met cool nerdy groups because they exist but people with a chip on their shoulder are draining at the best of times.
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But my Predator goyslop said so so fuck you goyim.
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If there is anything I've learned over the years (and from lurking on Kiwifarms as well), it's to not waste your empathy on these people.
More often than not, other people rejected them and excluded them for a damned good reason. Reasons that go beyond being nerdy, holding unorthodox beliefs, or overall being an oddball.
Like say, being a degenerate, a predator, or a complete asshole who never fails to piss away other peoples' goodwill and charity.
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Going from Spock to no cock, lmao
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People are social beings. Autism makes one lack the ability to relate to others, hence the name. Also autism causes sensory and numerous other issues. Thinking that autism is "the next level of evolution" or a "superpower" is extremely delusional at best.
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Yes. every remarkable person in history was autistic, they were also black and secretly trans.
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Aren't self-hating spergs (projecting their own low self esteem/stresses & internalized ableism onto more bottom-rung and outwardly islamic autismos) basically the most pronounced demographic phenotype on this site?
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Only an autist would be this trivially and rigidly nitpicky over wording ;^)
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I can't help it. It's my superpower.
I'm a superhero, so I gotta fight supervillains.
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This but unironically.
Seriously though, a lot of mathematicians and scientists probably had Asperger's , but no one knew what autism was until post-WW2, so we'll never really know. I know Isacc Newton, John von Neumann, Henry Cavendish and a few other scientists like Lagrange have symptoms of Aspergers just based on what they wrote and what their contemporaries wrote of them. I think in other fields, the amount of people with Aspergers drops drastically.
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For every one autistic that was useful to society, probably 100,000 were complete write-offs. I hear enough about them from the treating professionals.
There no use to society from a social impaired weirdo obsessed with Sonic. Unless they are so impaired but still competent enough to broadcast their life, that they provide free entertainment to you.
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The write-offs are expensive to society because we're paying for their sex changes.
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Autists believe in laws. rules. If the authority tells them they need to chop their parts off, they will sign up the next day. Autists are profitable. Deception is a foreign concept to them. Which is why they blurt out what they are thinking. Theory of the mind is a difficult thing for them to grasp.