Barbie - A More Successful Movie than You'd Think

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Totallyunknown said:
Adaption?

Nigger it's a fucking movie about a consumer good, not a fucking novel.

Only a retard tries to critique media they've never actually watched. And again, I wasn't looking for a feminist message. You were. You needed Barbie to have a feminist message so it fulfilled your ideas about Barbie, whether true or not

Probably how you treat women in general.

Eta: Barbie isn't called a fascist at the end. She's called one by the SJW daughter in high school in a typical leftist rant. Her 30+ year old mother is the one who cares about Barbie and saw her as multi-faceted and both mother and daughter side with Barbie with the mother making the grand feminist speech at the end.

This is like me just making up a new plot for Star Wars and saying it's problematic with the new plot I made up. Lunacy.
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literally you rn
 
gata said:
totallyunknown you're a pathetic contrarian/troll and it's not worth arguing with you. lol simp for the movie on twitter maybe you'll get better updoots by your fellow neurodivergents.

Yeah, legally blonde is what this movie should have been. A silly, girly and entertaining movie for women, not something made by a privileged hollywood millionaire old haghack who should know that this subversion and feminist shit has been overplayed and cliche since the mid 2010s. It sucks that western films pandering to women have to have this cynical and petty wine aunt feel. cis bio bonus holes should not have fun cause that's enabling the patriarchy or something.
I'm still irritated that the nice aesthetic of this movie is being dragged down by current year scripts.
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"I don't hate women, I just prefer the movie where they based it on a woman everyone deeply hated but gave her a Hollywood trope of overcoming her vapid desires despite being written by a law student at Stanford who treated everyone, including the men around her, like absolute garbage and the movie was going to end with her being a lesbian on the beach or some big dance number but it's way better than Barbie because Margot looks way older than Reese did."

I have to assume you never read the novel the book was adapted from. An actual adaption vs someone's imagination about a doll invented by an old woman.

I don't need to go to Twitter as most people think its a fun movie and it's you guys that need the echo chamber to believe your hatred over a movie about Barbie is justified. If this was done with Mario, you'd be laughed out of the discussion, especially if you never watched or played a single Mario franchise and still tried to comment on it.
 
Totallyunknown said:
"I don't hate women, I just prefer the movie where they based it on a woman everyone deeply hated but gave her a Hollywood trope of overcoming her vapid desires despite being written by a law student at Stanford who treated everyone, including the men around her, like absolute garbage and the movie was going to end with her being a lesbian on the beach or some big dance number but it's way better than Barbie because Margot looks way older than Reese did."

I have to assume you never read the novel the book was adapted from. An actual adaption vs someone's imagination about a doll invented by an old woman.

I don't need to go to Twitter as most people think its a fun movie and it's you guys that need the echo chamber to believe your hatred over a movie about Barbie is justified. If this was done with Mario, you'd be laughed out of the discussion, especially if you never watched or played a single Mario franchise and still tried to comment on it.
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Nigger I just wanted a silly movie to be allowed to exist but instead of a silly movie we get a plot where Ken finds his balls but the based Kentocracy gets overthrown by Barbie's brainwashing.
 
Year looks pretty bleak when into the niggerverse and bing bing wahoo are the only mediocre shit that has released so far
 
To show that I'm not bashing the movie just to bash it, I will give a positive take. I do like the scene where Barbie is sitting on the bench, just quietly taking in the real world around her; both the good and the bad. She then looks to an old woman who smiles at her. Barbie then say that's the lady is beautiful.

That I will say is a touching moment. It let's the scene do the talking with very little dialogue. And the message itself is a good one for audience to take, since in the actual world people are afraid of aging. If the movie was just about Barbie learning about the human experience, and realizing she preferred the mortal, imperfect real world to her immortal, perfect plastic one, that would be fine.

But it's not just about that. It's intertwined with extreme feminist points of "women are treated inferior to men", "women are smart and independent while men are dumb and ignorant", and "if only women could choose what they want to do and be in leading positions, everything would be so much better". Except that they forget that an actual women directed this film. And the fact that the Supreme Court of Justice has four women out of the nine members. And that the board of Mattell has five women out of the 11 board members. And lest not forget, since the film even points it out, that the original ceo of Barbie was a FUCKING WOMAN for 30 years back in a time where you could argue that women were seen inferior to men. If the patriarchy did still exist in the USA today, it seems to be doing a pretty shitty job at it.
 
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
Ah, there it is.

No Ken is not the equivalent of many, many, many women in other movies. Ken is what some women perceive fictional women to be in many, many, many other movies kind of like the myth of the "black people always die first in horror movies" being some super-common trope.
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A bit off topic, but one thing I really regret about the wokification of Hollywood is that I'll never get to see a horror-comedy movie where everyone else realizes the black guy will die first, meaning they're immortal until he dies, then abuse their immortality.
 
Seventh Star said:
Oh I did. I was surprisingly charmed and they're rather pretty. I wish that there was an adult comedy type without it being all sex jokes. Tall fuckin' order, I know, but I could see the appeal, especially when someone here suggested Barbie cycling through different jobs. It'd be more funny if there was no message.
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I remember there being a series on Youtube called 'The Most Popular Girls in School', which is basically a high-school comedy/drama series but made entirely with various Barbie dolls. I enjoyed it, but sadly I think the lockdowns killed it, as there has been nothing for 3 years now, but what there was was entertaining enough, and without anything too SJW/current in it. I remember it being fun too to watch how the dolls got better/had more joints and the stop motion improve over the seasons.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
To show that I'm not bashing the movie just to bash it, I will give a positive take. I do like the scene where Barbie is sitting on the bench, just quietly taking in the real world around her; both the good and the bad. She then looks to an old woman who smiles at her. Barbie then say that's the lady is beautiful.

That I will say is a touching moment. It let's the scene do the talking with very little dialogue. And the message itself is a good one for audience to take, since in the actual world people are afraid of aging. If the movie was just about Barbie learning about the human experience, and realizing she preferred the mortal, imperfect real world to her immortal, perfect plastic one, that would be fine.
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I particularly liked that scene, it made me think this movie would be an allegory to Siddhartha's path to Buddhahood since it followed similar steps.
I was almost right since she did detach herself from her plastic world and is now in the "real world"
 
Mao Hao Hao said:
I remember there being a series on Youtube called 'The Most Popular Girls in School', which is basically a high-school comedy/drama series but made entirely with various Barbie dolls. I enjoyed it, but sadly I think the lockdowns killed it, as there has been nothing for 3 years now, but what there was was entertaining enough, and without anything too SJW/current in it. I remember it being fun too to watch how the dolls got better/had more joints and the stop motion improve over the seasons.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6kg6KXrRplQ
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Ah, that series! I almost forgot when I mentioned LitD earlier. But I also can't believe I didn't put two-and-two together with the RC writers back then, especially with the improved stop-motion! For what it's worth, it's better that it left an open end than have the quality be dragged down over time.
 
I'mma real anime gurl said:
Honestly who cares if it's good or bad, the movie will make bank because they got Ryan Gosling and if they got any sequels without Ryan it'll fucking tank.
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I think people will go see it just because it's Barbie. I think everyone knows Barbie. It's probably one of the most well known IP's in the world.
 
I'm gonna back @Totallyunknown and say that the movie was fine for what it was and its only really bad if you came in looking for problems. Obviously Ryan stole the show but the movie was cute for what it was! The ending was sweet and it had a lot of touching moments but the daughter of America Ferrera's character could have been omitted. She served no purpose other than to be aggravating. What the problem is for people is how unapologetic it is when it comes to the feminism and patriarchy in the movie but it's portrayed well imo. TotallyUnknown is dead on with how fucking stupid the Kens are and how vapid they are in actuality when they get a shred of attention.

I knew what I was going to get when I went in so I wanted a laugh and got plenty of it with how fun the jokes were. Its alright if you don't care for the movie but I'd go in with an open mind and the fact that this movie is targeted for anyone older than 30 since kids don't play with fucking toys anymore. A lot of fun easter eggs and the set designs were sublime. Hell even the tranny got a few chuckles out of me and weren't really a problem even though they were clockable immediately.

All in all, it was entertaining to me and I heavily enjoyed all of the characterizations and jokes. I didn't get a chance to catch Oppenheimer but I'll just have to catch it on a streaming platform unfortunately. Sometimes a fun movie can be just a fun movie and you don't have to go in expecting Current Year ™️. . I think this movie did that well while also hitting on a lot of points that are indeed issues women still face.
 
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JLongbone is gonna do a full video review.
 
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