Barbie - A More Successful Movie than You'd Think

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Oilspill Battery said:
There has NEVER been a modern piece of media to tackle the battle of the sexes without coddling women because, genuinely, reality is too offensive for modern sensibilities.

Quick reminder, the Williams sisters claimed they could take on any male player outside the top 200, Karsten Braasch, a 30 year old alcoholic smoker ranked 203rd, took them up on the challenge half drunk and procceded to smash both of them back to back 6-1 and 6-2.

Expecting women to accept being depicted as anything other than perfect angels that are just as strong if not stronger than men is a pipe dream. Why do you think every single action movie that comes out depics 60 pound women taking on 12 hulks at the same time in hand to hand?

Which is why I don't care when trannies infiltrate their sports and bring them back down to realityland.
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It's a shame because it would be pretty fun to watch it done right. When egos get in the way, all we end up with is the same exact shit the media always pumps out with a new coat of paint.

I don't particularly mind if a girl is a flawless hero type or a hulking Amazonian in a story. Wonder Woman has fulfilled that role in media for a long time. I just don't like when they use that as a vehicle to talk down to the audience or if it totally misses the point like Barbie, where we see with our own eyes that dictatorships are bad and that they don't work for society but we're told that's not true. Then the people in the crowd huffing their own farts need you to further validate that what you saw wasn't true.
 
I have to say first off, this movie is hilarious when it gets the sarcasm right, and it does. It loses it's sparkle when it gets into expected feminist exposition, but overall, it's just a stupid movie about a plastic toy. Anyone that takes the political implications of this seriously is pretty sad, in my opinion. I was laughing my ass off till the boring exposition came around and the film just got worse from there. Ultimately, in my opinion, this movie is a great self referential send up of the worst parts of feminism while upholding the things that make people hate it, even though it has to uphold it all in the end because girl power or something. The movie is kind of all over the place, and it has no real ending because it's still a doll. The movie is pretty shallow, and not just for feminist propaganda. I eagerly what pedowood does with making a movie out of magic 8 ball.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
What is it with fucking youtubers and video essays that are longer than the films they review?
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Because there's a lot to be said when you're trying to pick something appart that 10 minutes aren't enough to cover unless you're only intrested in shallow superficial coverage of someone to just tell you "thing bad" or "thing good".
 
Oilspill Battery said:
Because there's a lot to be said when you're trying to pick something appart that 10 minutes aren't enough to cover unless you're only intrested in shallow superficial coverage of someone to just tell you "thing bad" or "thing good".
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Some things aren't even worth 10 seconds much less 10 minutes much less 10 goddamn hours and the people who make these things are masturbatory faggots with nothing to say.
 
AnOminous said:
Some things aren't even worth 10 seconds much less 10 minutes much less 10 goddamn hours and the people who make these things are masturbatory faggots with nothing to say.
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The flim itself is full of literal propaganda that definitely merits the runtime. Conceding discourse (especially of propaganda) to the opposition is how you lose the culture war.
 
The main thing to hate to hate in Barbei is Allen, Allen is a simp and a shit friend and I bet he actually doesn't fit in Ken's clothes.
 
Maybe this was discussed before earlier in the thread but, since Midge and Alan were there, why wasn't other Barbie doll characters in the movie? Like Christie or Teresa? It just doesn't make much sense to me to have all the people in Barbieland be either Ken or Barbie, except for two.
 
mindlessobserver said:
It was done right.

50 years ago.
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I remember the feminist Powerpuff Girls episode doing something similar. And then of course the most recent reboot did the total opposite.
Oglooger said:
The main thing to hate to hate in Barbei is Allen, Allen is a simp and a shit friend and I bet he actually doesn't fit in Ken's clothes.
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The funny thing is that at least one of the Allens is married to the pregnant Midge that is alone and everyone shuns like The Scarlet Letter, so take that for what it's worth. But the movie is never very clear on whether they're based on doll canon, individual dolls in the real world, or both.
InJailOutSoon said:
Maybe this was discussed before earlier in the thread but, since Midge and Alan were there, why wasn't other Barbie doll characters in the movie? Like Christie or Teresa? It just doesn't make much sense to me to have all the people in Barbieland be either Ken or Barbie, except for two.
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The movie is more based on recent Barbies I think. The Fashionistas come in all shapes and sizes so they went for that since it's the path of least resistance in order to have a fat Barbie and a trans Barbie. There's only nods to classics like the aforementioned Happy Family Midge and OG Allen, Teen Talk Barbie, Astronaut Barbie from the 80s, etc.
 
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AnOminous said:
Because it's literally a retarded shitty movie not even worth minutes much less hours of my time.
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Its one of the most watched films of the century, whether or not you liked it doesn't change the fact that its going to be incredibly influential.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
Its one of the most watched films of the century, whether or not you liked it doesn't change the fact that its going to be incredibly influential.
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>in a century where Avatar, Avengers Infinity War and the entire MCU, Frozen, The Super Mario Bros Movie, that shit-ass awful Lion King """remake"", The Dark Knight Rises, Joker, and most of Illumination's repertoire released, BARBIE is one of the most-watched films of the century
I think you might be exaggerating just a teensy weensy massive fucking bit there
I agree that it's probably one of the most talked-about movies of this year, but have you seen this year? The blockbuster drought is getting to your head; Barbie's nowhere near "one of the most watched films of the century".
 
Anonitolia said:
>in a century where Avatar, Avengers Infinity War and the entire MCU, Frozen, The Super Mario Bros Movie, that shit-ass awful Lion King """remake"", The Dark Knight Rises, Joker, and most of Illumination's repertoire released, BARBIE is one of the most-watched films of the century
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None of these are propaganda on the level of barbie.
Anonitolia said:
I think you might be exaggerating just a teensy weensy massive fucking bit there
I agree that it's probably one of the most talked-about movies of this year, but have you seen this year? The blockbuster drought is getting to your head; Barbie's nowhere near "one of the most watched films of the century".
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Barbie made a barbillion dollars and its still in theaters. This is why I think its more important. If it had an average box office I wouldn't care either.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
Barbie made a barbillion dollars and its still in theaters.
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As did Mario, to nearly twice the degree.

Oilspill Battery said:
None of these are propaganda on the level of barbie.
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this is completely divorced from the fact that Barbie is not anywhere near being "one of the most watched films of the century", which is what my post was focused on
 
Anonitolia said:
As did Mario, to nearly twice the degree.
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Good thing you ignored the first sentence of my comment talking about propaganda then ey? To save you the time, Mario isn't filled with political hot takes while barbie is. Don't know why you chose to ignore that bit.

Also, mario made less money than barbie and its been in cinemas for like 3 months. So that also really doesn't work in your favour.
Anonitolia said:
this is completely divorced from the fact that Barbie is not anywhere near being "one of the most watched films of the century", which is what my post was focused on
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Barbie is currently the 40th highest grossing film in history (much more if you exclude the 30 or so franchise films on the lost) and its been in cinemas less than a month. Barbie very much is one of the most watched films.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
To save you the time, Mario isn't filled with political hot takes while barbie is. Don't know why you chose to ignore that bit.
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Because it isn't what I was talking about
I was annoyed at you insisting that Barbie was so incredibly popular that it was going to be one of the most-viewed films of the century, not the fact that there's propaganda in it. I agree about the propaganda, I believe that alone makes it worth discussing, but justifying bashing it for weeks after its release by saying it will be as big as Avatar, Frozen, or Avengers: Infinity War was is SUPREMELY retarded and that's what I was focusing on.

Oilspill Battery said:
Barbie is currently the 40th highest grossing film in history (much more if you exclude the 30 or so franchise films on the lost) and its been in cinemas less than a month. Barbie very much is one of the most watched films.
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The Super Mario Bros Movie is 15th despite having released in the first week of April.

It's worth noting that this entire year has also been notoriously dry for theatres due to both minimal and dogshit film releases as well as Hollywood's pants-on-head-retarded striking making distribution difficult (both due to complications in the process and due to some theatres wanting to virtue signal by not accepting films from companies that the strikers are rallying against), and the fact that you're looking at the list of highest-grossing films before inflation, during a time when the dollar is inflating a very large amount in a very short amount of time. I'm confident that TG: Maverick, Barbie, and Avatar 2 would be much further down the list if they were released before the pandemic inflated their profits to the nth degree (Mario and No Way Home have enough brand power to probably have kept their spots).

I won't even begin to bring up how, out of all of the movies on that list (remember, still pre-adjustment), only 3/50 were not released this century, and 18/50 were not released in the past 10 years alone.
To claim that Barbie will be one of the most-watched of the century against that kind of competition, almost all of which outranks it in terms of both profit and lasting impact, is completely absurd and bothered me enough to reply. If this were something like Endgame, Infinity War, Frozen, Mario- all films that were talked about endlessly for months both before and after release, and broke into the top 15 of all time (pre-adjustment) as a result- then I'd not be nearly as needlessly incensed, yet you're sitting here trying to convince me that the stupid doll movie that I haven't heard a lick about outside of this thread within a week or two is as impactful as the worst Disney Princess film ever that plagued YouTube with shitty covers of its most popular song for years after release.

Oilspill Battery said:
mario made less money than barbie and its been in cinemas for like 3 months.
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You have no brain and are dumb and gay.
 
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