Barbie - A More Successful Movie than You'd Think

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In your mind controversy is when someone disagrees with you? In case you forgot this is the barbie thread, and I'm talking about barbie and its content.
I never implied that your opinion is a controversy. It's your behavior that's more of a controversy. You're telling something completely mute without giving good explanation why, and then you made some huge bitchfit all over it.
 
I never implied that your opinion is a controversy. It's your behavior that's more of a controversy. You're telling something completely mute without giving good explanation why, and then you made some huge bitchfit all over it.
Ok here's my explenations.

Barbie is propaganda because the main plotline of the movie is barbie travelling to the real world and being disgusted by the patriarchy, she gets catcalled, groped, all the CEOs are men (which the movie draws attention to) there's multiple speeches about how hard being a woman is, the men in the real world go "the patriarchy is totally a thing we're just hidding it better" and there's several comments talking about how men and women are not equal, and ken taking over barbieland is viewed as a bad thing that must be fixed.

The movie is also popualr because in less than a month its made 1 billion+ dollars and will probably make much more after its done with cinemas. Do you find any of these explenations inadequate?
 
Ok here's my explenations.

Barbie is propaganda because the main plotline of the movie is barbie travelling to the real world and being disgusted by the patriarchy, she gets catcalled, groped, all the CEOs are men (which the movie draws attention to) there's multiple speeches about how hard being a woman is, the men in the real world go "the patriarchy is totally a thing we're just hidding it better" and there's several comments talking about how men and women are not equal, and ken taking over barbieland is viewed as a bad thing that must be fixed.

The movie is also popualr because in less than a month its made 1 billion+ dollars and will probably make much more after its done with cinemas. Do you find any of these explenations inadequate?
Yes, good job sir
 

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my head canon is that Ken in his broken state decided to become a stunt driver in LA while moonlighting as a getaway driver for thugs.
Someone on this video below made an interesting headcanon regarding Ryan Gosling.

Ken left Barbieland and went to the real world after Barbie rejects him, and since they didn't let him become whatever he wanted in the real world, like a doctor, or a CEO, he became a getaway driver, eventually meeting Irene and falling in love with her because she reminds him of Barbie, and the reason why he's so socially awkward in this movie is because he's still adjusting and figuring out how people work, operate and speak in the real world.

By the time it's 2049, he's fully adjusted and understands people enough, hence why he's not as socially awkward, but since he had to leave Irene in Drive, he's alone again, so he ends up as a replicant cop (I mean, both the Ken dolls and replicants are constructs) and since buys JOI, to try and fill that void that Barbie originally left him with while going through his own journey of self-realization and making his own choices.

Funnily enough, Barbie, Drive and Blade Runner 2049 all take place in Los Angeles. There's also the link between Officer K and Ken in terms of names.

Just having a little fun here.

 
Barbie's depiction of Ken seems to have fallen into the same ideological blindspot as Watchmen's depiction of Rorschach, that being even if you believe a certain set of propositions to be absurd doesn't mean that your audience shares your belief.

I think Greta Gerwig is so deep in the feminist weeds that she regards any interest of men to be worthy of derision, so she can take Ken's reasonable desire for Barbie's affection, respect from his peers, power over his own fate, as manifestations of the Great Feminist Shaitan, The Patriarchy, while the audience looks at Ken and sees a sympathetic, if goofy, character.
 
Barbie's depiction of Ken seems to have fallen into the same ideological blindspot as Watchmen's depiction of Rorschach, that being even if you believe a certain set of propositions to be absurd doesn't mean that your audience shares your belief.

I think Greta Gerwig is so deep in the feminist weeds that she regards any interest of men to be worthy of derision, so she can take Ken's reasonable desire for Barbie's affection, respect from his peers, power over his own fate, as manifestations of the Great Feminist Shaitan, The Patriarchy, while the audience looks at Ken and sees a sympathetic, if goofy, character.
It could just be that both writers were/are wildly out of touch with the actual public. Social media really is just a hugbox echo chamber.
 
i have not seen the barbie movie, but i have a hard time believing that a woke movie can make a billion dollars worldwide. but how do you fudge a billion dollar box office and all of the reports that all the screenings were sold out? you can't.

the question i have, for those who seen the movie, is how overtly woke was it? or was it even woke and all of the fnt and g+g crown are exaggerating "the message" in the movie, to get clicks, like they always seem to do?
 
My strong and independent karen friend loves it and said she wanted to play barbie herself when it was released, because the whole movie is a "muh patriarchy/you go queen, slay!" radfem echo chamber.
They want to rule without responsibilities, the oblivious chad (Ken), thats feminists wet dream.
Thats why dogs, preferably big ones, are so pupular amongst middle aged single whamen.
Barbieland is basically feminist wakanda, its a movie for delusional feminists and immature adults.
its propaganda but at least they are aryan and only one of a barbies is a troon.
 
Someone on this video below made an interesting headcanon regarding Ryan Gosling.
That reminds me of how I used to link Batman Forever and The Invasion together since Nicole Kidman plays a psychiatrist in both. It's funny how stuff links together like that in a non-schizo way.
i have not seen the barbie movie, but i have a hard time believing that a woke movie can make a billion dollars worldwide. but how do you fudge a billion dollar box office and all of the reports that all the screenings were sold out? you can't.

the question i have, for those who seen the movie, is how overtly woke was it? or was it even woke and all of the fnt and g+g crown are exaggerating "the message" in the movie, to get clicks, like they always seem to do?
It's the image. Not only is Barbie a recognizable brand world-wide, but we're neck deep in nostalgia-focused media so everyone wants to go back in time. The sets and costume design and music evoke the same feeling that Barbie gave kids when they were growing up. Plus despite the woke shit, it's a comedy. And it stars Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling. Aside from that, it's largely inoffensive. The plot is the only real downside and it only gets unbearable in the last 20 minutes or so.
 
Saw a clip of the America Ferrera monologue on Instagram and based on the reactions to it it seems it’s the I Have A Dream speech for middle class mommy bloggers.
When I watched the movie, I felt like she made some pretty valid points about her insecurities that a lot of people could relate to. But she's also complaining how helpless she feels as a grown woman to a bunch of dolls (which is a weird paradox in itself with the plot of the movie taken into consideration).
 
i have not seen the barbie movie, but i have a hard time believing that a woke movie can make a billion dollars worldwide. but how do you fudge a billion dollar box office and all of the reports that all the screenings were sold out? you can't.

the question i have, for those who seen the movie, is how overtly woke was it? or was it even woke and all of the fnt and g+g crown are exaggerating "the message" in the movie, to get clicks, like they always seem to do?
The movie is making money cuz it stars conventionally attractive White people and normies can just ignore the political message and enjoy the Ken Show which is what most people like about the movie. Ken gets a bunch of song and dance numbers while Barbie just fades to the corner in the second half.
 
Barbie's depiction of Ken seems to have fallen into the same ideological blindspot as Watchmen's depiction of Rorschach, that being even if you believe a certain set of propositions to be absurd doesn't mean that your audience shares your belief.

I think Greta Gerwig is so deep in the feminist weeds that she regards any interest of men to be worthy of derision, so she can take Ken's reasonable desire for Barbie's affection, respect from his peers, power over his own fate, as manifestations of the Great Feminist Shaitan, The Patriarchy, while the audience looks at Ken and sees a sympathetic, if goofy, character.

I've seen people arguing that Barbie land is a reversal of what Women experience in real life. If that's so, then Barbies speech to Ken at the end. Is supposed to be a Man telling Women to go and do their own thing and stop obsessing about Men?

But Feminism is all about the Patriarchy?
 
My favourite is Lebanese Barbie standing among debris.
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The AI-generated Barbies for countries in Central/East/Southeast Asia and Latin America had fake bleach blonde hair, as if women in those regions aren't dyeing their hair fake blonde. I don't really see Pajeets dyeing their hair blonde and it seems the South Asian Barbies have dark hair. More likely, the OG blonde Barbie influenced all the images.

These Southeast Asian and Latina Barbies have typical faces for their countries if you take away the bleach blonde hair. Yet people complained that they were "white girls" in yellowface or brownface, as if having fake blonde hair and not being as dark as a nigger are the only qualifiers to be "white".
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And either way, it's statistically impossible for any modern country to be 100% dark haired, since globalization, immigration and the "horrible legacy" of European kkkolonialization are a thing. The Central Asian Barbie being blonde and resembling Russian Barbie made me wonder if the AI looked at the Russians who live in Central Asia as some sort of reference instead of ethnic Central Asians.
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My favourite is Lebanese Barbie standing among debris.
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The AI-generated Barbies for countries in Central/East/Southeast Asia and Latin America had fake bleach blonde hair, as if women in those regions aren't dyeing their hair fake blonde. I don't really see Pajeets dyeing their hair blonde and it seems the South Asian Barbies have dark hair. More likely, the OG blonde Barbie influenced all the images.

These Southeast Asian and Latina Barbies have typical faces for their countries if you take away the bleach blonde hair. Yet people complained that they were "white girls" in yellowface or brownface, as if having fake blonde hair and not being as dark as a nigger are the only qualifiers to be "white".
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And either way, it's statistically impossible for any modern country to be 100% dark haired, since globalization, immigration and the "horrible legacy" of European kkkolonialization are a thing. The Central Asian Barbie being blonde and resembling Russian Barbie made me wonder if the AI looked at the Russians who live in Central Asia as some sort of reference instead of ethnic Central Asians.
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Whats funny about people complaining, is that the AI isn't being biased. It's simply amalgamating the information available.

As for Barbie being blonde in every country. Blonde is almost Barbies main defining visual feature. If someone on the street says "oh that girl looks like a Barbie doll" What are they typically talking about? Blonde hair and pink outfits.

If they want to get mad, they should ask why the AI thinks that Lebanon is a bombed out hellhole, and who bombed it?
 
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