Baseball Thread

  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
New MLB Power Rankings are out
The Mets are doing their typical late season collapse losing an embarrassing 11 of their last 12. They have been losing games they had the lead in late and that's after their trade deadline aquisitions were mostly bullpen They fell from #7 to #11. Someone may be getting fired.
I would say they are the current worst team in baseball but the Rockies over a 12-game stretch, had a 10.57 ERA, the worst by any team over any 12-game span since earned runs were first tracked in 1912! Still had more wins in the last 12 than lolmets because they got a few W off the also awful Pirates.
 

I'm not interested enough to read up on the case to find out fact from fiction.

But at least the gestalt I got from Reddit was that the NPCs were assigning a little bit more blame this time to Ohtani himself than the gambling/interpreter whitewash.

Or at the very least some guilt by association, kind of like MAGA & the Donald ("He surrounds himself with bad company; He's not a good judge of character, etc.)
 
Here's what I've gathered so far:

In 2024, Ohtani signed on to endorse the 14-home development in the Mauna Kea Resort facing the Pacific Ocean. Kingsbarn Realty Capital was partnered with 2 people from a company called West Point Investment Corporation, Kelvin J. Hayes Sr. and Tomoko Matsumoto.

It appears that Hayes and Matsumoto were fired from the project in July. The lawsuit that was filed in the Hawaii Circuit Court, reported that Balelo is accused of requesting concessions from developer Kevin J. Hayes Sr. and real estate broker Tomoko Matsumoto, "before demanding that their business partner, Kingsbarn Realty Capital, drop them from the deal."

According to legal experts in business and real estate transactions, it effectively doesn't matter whether Ohtani played a direct role in the firing of Hayes and Matsumoto.

"They’re not alleging that Ohtani did anything, they’re saying his agent did," said the legal expert, who reviewed the legal filing prior to speaking with The Big Lead. "Generally under the law, when somebody’s your agent, you can be held liable for something he did on your behalf. That’s why Ohtani can be held liable. We don’t know Ohtani’s knowledge or the extent of his involvement."

The expert theorized that, even if firing the developer and real estate broker did not cause a violation of the contract between Ohtani and Kingsbarn Realty Capital, the lawsuit might have been prompted by "interference with prospective economic advantage," or an expectation that the two would receive payment in the future.

Either way, they said that it's reasonable to expect Balelo and Ohtani to counter with a motion to dismiss the suit, on the basis that “even if what (they're) claiming is true, (they're) not claiming that anything illegal happened.”


The evidence suggests, once again, that Ohtani did nothing to drag his name into an off-the-field headline. Someone in his small inner circle might have, but Balelo's accusers face a significant burden of proof.

The reasoning for why Hayes and Matsumoto were forced out is not clear. I've read on other sites that they apparently used private photos of Ohtani and Mamiko from their appearance at the ground breaking ceremony for the site in promotional materials. There were meme tier aspects such as "you can have breakfast with Shohei if you buy a home here !" and that all of this was done without his consent.

Real Estate deals very often have a lot of shady shit going on and when you're dealing with unironically the most marketable athlete in the world, you can imagine that motherfuckers would be trying to sink their claws in.

I will say that for as focused as Ohtani is on Baseball (that whole 2 way player aspect is definitely time-consuming) he needs to evaluate his relationship with Nez Balelo (the fuck kind of name is that anyway?) for sure. To me, this is the 3rd strike (the FTX idiocy, the Ippei Mizuhara scandal and now this shit). This is becoming a pattern and it's a distraction.

Luckily, if the Mizuhara situation just resulted in Ohtani having a 50/50 season and win a World Series ring then I'm cautiously optimistic that this will similarly have no impact on his performance.
 
Last edited:
Watching the Jays play the Chicago tonight after getting embarrassed by the Dodgers over the weekend, the Cubs are a lot less scary.

Granted Toronto did play at Chavez Ravine on the road & the Cubbies at home at the Rogers Center, where their offense plays much better.

Still, Chicago deserved better. They loaded the bases a few times & Toronto pitchers mostly escape by good fortune.

Dansby Swanson dropped two routine balls at short. Cubs defense looked solid otherwise.

Other than the vets - Swanson, Happ, Carson Kelly - & of course PCA, most of the Cubs roster was completely foreign to me.

All the talk in the Toronto postgame from the manager & utility guy Ernie Clement was a claim that his 1st pitch decisive 3 run HR off Assad was actually a missed bunt sign with runners on 1st & 2nd.

Clement was having a hard time keeping a straight face in the press scrum, which made me think the manager was in on it & that they were pulling a fast one on the media.

A couple of weeks back, starter Eric Lauer showed up on gameday with a weird bruised chin during his start. He tried to deadpan in the scrum after the game that Max Scherzer had socked him for talking to him with his headphones on the day of Mad Max' start.
 
Welp, I'm calling the season for My Texas Rangers. I guess I'll root for the Cubs this year. I like Imanaga.

Toronto fans have had the upcoming start against the Rangers & Nathan Eovaldi circled in fear for a couple of weeks.

He's a long time Toronto nemesis, but suddenly having an otherwordly late career season.

It's too bad too because Tyler Mahle was having such a weird career year before he got hurt in June.

Looking it up, Tyler Mahle's 3rd last start of the year was when Toronto's season turned around and they went on a tear.

The Jays were in the midst of a brutal 6-game road trip through Tampa & Arlington. They were embarassed, getting swept IIRC at Steinbrenner Field the weekend before.

Then they rolled into Arlington bruised & battered. But Texas' offense was similarly inept.

Toronto took 2 out of 3 in Texas by scoring something like 3 runs total. Mahle pitched 6 shutout innings of 4 hit ball. But the Jays would win it off a pinch hit 2 run homer Top 9 off Jacob Webb. Bichette had been out day-to-day with a sore back and no one was actually sure if he was available off the bench.

The Jays would go on a tear after that awful deadball Texas road series to win most series since then and go 20 games above .500.
 
Toronto fans have had the upcoming start against the Rangers & Nathan Eovaldi circled in fear for a couple of weeks.
You aluded to it in the rest of the post but I can predict what happens in this game easy peasy.
  • Rangers get a double and single in the first inning, plating one run and making me think maybe this game will be different.
  • Eovaldi goes 6.2 inningis with one ER, a random solo homerun to vladdy or something.
  • Rangers go 0/8 RISP for the rest of the game after the 1st inning.
  • Jays get a 2 run homerun with 2 outs in the 8th inning off of one of random relivers.
  • Jays win 3-1, I turn it off and thank the lord that 2023 happened the way it did.
 
Last edited:
I will say that for as focused as Ohtani is on Baseball (that whole 2 way player aspect is definitely time-consuming) he needs to evaluate his relationship with Nez Balelo (the fuck kind of name is that anyway?) for sure. To me, this is the 3rd strike (the FTX idiocy, the Ippei Mizuhara scandal and now this shit). This is becoming a pattern and it's a distraction.
Somehow, I can't imagine Ohtani was so naive that he couldn't figure out that millions were being stolen from his bank account. There's no evidence he was gambling, but this shady real estate stuff popping up really makes me reconsider my view. He's never going to be exposed because he's the most famous person in an entire country, but it really makes you think.
 
Somehow, I can't imagine Ohtani was so naive that he couldn't figure out that millions were being stolen from his bank account. There's no evidence he was gambling, but this shady real estate stuff popping up really makes me reconsider my view. He's never going to be exposed because he's the most famous person in an entire country, but it really makes you think.
While the media has really pushed the 'Ohtani is a baseballcel'-ish image of him from when he was still in the NPB (which I don't think any of us here buy at face value anyway), I think the fact that he gave all of his NPB salary to his mother so she can give him a measly 'allowance'/budget (back when he lived in his then-club's dormitories) may point to the possibility that he might actually be that naïve when it comes to financial matters. I don't know anything about this character nor do I feel the need to comment on it but leaving the business stuff to hired agents who use a completely different language to transact certainly sounds like a recipe to be taken advantage of by suits and translators
 
Are you all not excited for the historic first female blown call? MLB better not put her at home plate. I could see some manager calling her a dumb cunt or something and getting suspended for harmful sexist language. Then again she looks pretty manly besides the long hair so maybe nobody will even notice.

You guys called it.

On the first fucking pitch even, lmao.

I hate this female ref/ump shit. Men's sports should be reffed and called by men. I'm fired of hearing Doris Burke in basketball as well.
 
While the media has really pushed the 'Ohtani is a baseballcel'-ish image of him from when he was still in the NPB (which I don't think any of us here buy at face value anyway), I think the fact that he gave all of his NPB salary to his mother so she can give him a measly 'allowance'/budget (back when he lived in his then-club's dormitories) may point to the possibility that he might actually be that naïve when it comes to financial matters. I don't know anything about this character nor do I feel the need to comment on it but leaving the business stuff to hired agents who use a completely different language to transact certainly sounds like a recipe to be taken advantage of by suits and translators
Yeah, such a baseballcel that he can't understand how a bank account works and does nothing but play baseball...but he also easily got a girlfriend. Yeah, I don't really buy that.
You guys called it.

On the first fucking pitch even, lmao.

I hate this female ref/ump shit. Men's sports should be reffed and called by men. I'm fired of hearing Doris Burke in basketball as well.
Like I said, refs/umps are already sensitive little bitches, so having women out there makes it worse. The worst example is a female football referee. You could at least justify basketball, soccer, etc. by "women play these sports". But there is not and have never been female football players. If you have not played the sport at a reasonably high level, you should not be the arbiter of the rules of the sport. It takes a cool head and ability to think quickly and logically, none of which women have. A tiny woman attempting to have two big angry 300-lb catchers respect her girlbossery is going to be hilarious.
 
The Mets are doing their typical late season collapse losing an embarrassing 11 of their last 12
Okay, not a Mariners fan but I get it now.
Woke up, switched telly on in the 6th to see the Mariners go from losing 5-6 to winning 10-6 in one or 2 innings and seeing New Yorkers lose the plot is very funny.
I think mets are on their 6th pitcher this game?
 
The Rangers suck, but at least the Spirts Bay Kiwis are having a great season!
Spirtbay Kiwis.webp
 
The Rangers suck, but at least the Spirts Bay Kiwis are having a great season!
View attachment 7786022

Your Rangers prophecy upthread was pretty close in Game 1 vs the Jays.

DeGrom was unhittable, but they took him out after 5 and less than 90 pitches.

Marcus Semien crushed a first pitch knucklecurve off Louis Varland to make it 5-2.

I had a terrible Internet connection so I walked away at that point.

Some normie informed me later on that the Rangers pen collapsed, allowing the Jays to take it 6-5.

And somehow they gave up to Alejandro Kirk a two run bomb, the game winning 2-run single & his 1st career stolen base as the slowest man in the league.
 
Your Rangers prophecy upthread was pretty close in Game 1 vs the Jays.

DeGrom was unhittable, but they took him out after 5 and less than 90 pitches.

Marcus Semien crushed a first pitch knucklecurve off Louis Varland to make it 5-2.

I had a terrible Internet connection so I walked away at that point.

Some normie informed me later on that the Rangers pen collapsed, allowing the Jays to take it 6-5.

And somehow they gave up to Alejandro Kirk a two run bomb, the game winning 2-run single & his 1st career stolen base as the slowest man in the league.
Literally the third game in a row something like that happen, and the Phillies series had a game like that too. It's pretty obvious this is just the team at this point. We trade for 2 great relievers, and now they suck. Robert Garcia who was good enough to be our mediocre closer for 2 months is awful now. I don't know what happened but offense still sucks and the bullpen sucks too now, so our rotation is wasted for the season. Oh well.
 
Literally the third game in a row something like that happen, and the Phillies series had a game like that too. It's pretty obvious this is just the team at this point. We trade for 2 great relievers, and now they suck. Robert Garcia who was good enough to be our mediocre closer for 2 months is awful now. I don't know what happened but offense still sucks and the bullpen sucks too now, so our rotation is wasted for the season. Oh well.

There were a lot of compliments in the Jays thread about the Rangers.

People arguing that their pitching with any kind of competent offense goes from .500 to leading the division.
 
Some normie informed me later on that the Rangers pen collapsed, allowing the Jays to take it 6-5.

And somehow they gave up to Alejandro Kirk a two run bomb, the game winning 2-run single & his 1st career stolen base as the slowest man in the league.
Every single game I watched in the past couple of weeks has ended in a bullpen collapse. This one was primarily caused by the 2 relievers that were traded for to stop the bullpen from collapsing.
 
Every single game I watched in the past couple of weeks has ended in a bullpen collapse. This one was primarily caused by the 2 relievers that were traded for to stop the bullpen from collapsing.

Seranthony Dominguez & Louis Varland (who surrendered the Marcus Semien 1st pitch hanger) have been shaky at times as bullpen adds for Toronto.

Varland was the strangest part of Minnesota's firesale since he has 5+ years of team control left. Though Toronto had to send the Twins two guys off their Top 10 prospects. Also nice to have a fireballer who sits 97-98. Toronto's bullpen has lacked for years guys approaching 100 for whatever reason.

Toronto's pen isn't flashy after the deadline, but it's pretty deep.

They are running without a long man though, which drives me nuts in games like today where it's a laugher in either direction.
 
Phillies are great Mrs and I are going to iron pigs next week.

Did you see Yankees do a base clear double? I love that shit!!! Something is cool to me about in park that speed. It was a huge wall near double but everyone cleared bases and he held 2. I dunno I'm a geek this made me happy, it's cooler that a grand slam in a way. But GS are always neat.

Looks like math we're almost locked in. (Phillies)

unrelated season ending would anyone like a Dr. Basso team review?
 
Back
Top Bottom