Careercow Ben Collins / Benjamin Thomas Collins / @oneunderscore__ - Journo Scum

  • 🔧 At about Midnight EST I am going to completely fuck up the site trying to fix something.
Benny boy's lying out his ass even more than usual. I cannot think of a single "big story" that Lorenz "broke". It's all just been crying and screeching and doxing and harassing people she doesn't like. Not a single good thing has been contributed to the world by Taylor Lorenz.
 
While Ben Collins, like Taylor Lorenz, is not fat and is helping to erode the credibility of legacy media institutions by publishing worthless unresearched and propagandistic stories about irrelevant things that they claim are essential reporting I still would not have sex with him.

Neither of these people make powerful people very nervous or else they wouldn't be employed where they are doing what they do.
 
Is this the Kiwi Farms version of the paradox of intolerance?
Kiwifarms has never claimed to stand for anything and we really just want to have our little website. It’s a non-aggression principle sort of thing: we never called for action to be taken against journoscum like Collins and Lorenz, but once they started being the hallmonitors of the internet and trying to get us taken down that changes things. Plus, us wanting them censored is very different than us doing anything to get them censored.

We have an opinion, “journalists” take action and influence tech companies to get people they don’t like taken down. We just laugh and and have an opinion.
 
Ben has been temporarily suspended from NBC/MSNBC for inaccurate/biased reporting.

https://archive.ph/SW4Zi

I don't care about Elon at all but I'm glad to see someone actually show people like him that you can't just fire off these angry tweets and expect to be taken seriously as a journalist.
Considering todays standard for journalist practice, you think they'd have given him an award.

Glad he got punished all the same, though.
 
Keffals is grandstanding the opposite:
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I can still search and see the oneunderscore__ twitter handle, so I assume he's not BANNED, but who can tell in these Musky tranny times?

It’s always interesting to see what Keffal’s thinks is a good photo by what he puts as his thumbnails. Makes it even easier to play to his insecurities.
A lot of journos have been getting banned, Ben just isn't one of them.

Yet. I’ll take my rainbows, hope springs eternal.
 
I feel like someone who makes their flight information private.. It’s not doxing, it’s more like using public information to solve a puzzle.
I keep my privates tucked away in my pants and when joe schmo down the block tears open my pants because of curiosity about my micro penis, that's sexual assault. You can't use the white pages argument in this situation, even with white pages I could de-list myself from their future archiving. This propagandist had to circumvent publicly available information the Private ID for the jet in order to get the information. Maybe I'm wrong, but I do believe that private and public are opposites that mix like oil and vinegar without an emulsifier aka a sad dressing for a shit salad.
 
I keep my privates tucked away in my pants and when joe schmo down the block tears open my pants because of curiosity about my micro penis, that's sexual assault. You can't use the white pages argument in this situation, even with white pages I could de-list myself from their future archiving. This propagandist had to circumvent publicly available information the Private ID for the jet in order to get the information. Maybe I'm wrong, but I do believe that private and public are opposites that mix like oil and vinegar without an emulsifier aka a sad dressing for a shit salad.
I don’t think anyone got raped. It’s more like some celebrity or high-profile individual asks the government for permission to drive from point A to point X with their license plate removed. Some sperg wants to find out where point X is, so they pull up a DOT app and see that 6 cars without a license plate leave parking lot “A”.

The app shows the makes and models of the un-tagged cars - 2 are Mercedes, 2 are Teslas, and one is a Ferrari and one is a Maserati. They know their guy owns a Tesla so they click on both of those cars and observe the highlighted paths of travel. When both of them reach their destination they use that information to deduce which one was their vehicle of interest and which location is point “X.” They usually don’t even do that, they just post the paths and other people will speculate on why someone made a trip to a certain place.

I’m not siding with the people who are getting bans and suspensions over this, I think it’s hilarious that they’re experiencing exactly what they were dishing out 2 months ago. It’s also hypocritical to act like Flight Tracker is a site synonymous with swatting, doxing and harassment. This is not James Bond shit, it’s just a guy peeing in bottles and playing with legos or someone who just really loves airplanes. It’s been a niche hobby for years but suddenly it’s in the spotlight and people are forming polarized opinions over whether or not it’s pure evil.
 
I don’t think anyone got raped.
Missed my point.

It’s more like some celebrity or high-profile individual asks the government for permission to drive from point A to point X with their license plate removed. Some sperg wants to find out where point X is, so they pull up a DOT app and see that 6 cars without a license plate leave parking lot “A”.
You're not helping your case as it makes it sound more like hyper fandom stalking. Post an address, go for it if the public at large can access that information; I think that is the definition of public. From what I understand, this propagandist had to have access to information that isn't public knowledge and it led to someone actually taking action as if they were a supposed "Kiwifarmer". The problem is, I can't verify this information the propagandist put forth because I don't have access to the information behind the private identifier.

To address your point on car license plates, a street is public. Essentially, the scenario as presented by you is not applicable to this situation. Hell, I support LibsofTikTok, however the "dox" of their address, I shrug. It sucks, however, when you are taking an opposing stance as openly as they are, expect and prepare for the worst; ANTIFA is speed running to surpass the KKK in violence. Basically you're describing a legal investigations app that has streamlined a process that I had to use at work as well. (Former, I don't glow that much anymore)

TLDR: There is a difference between DOT a publicly available app and Lexis Nexis (A database of information, public and not public that debtors and investigative teams use to profile people's history, acquaintances and their entire family tree as well as give there SSNs and other information that could be used for identity theft, surpassing question based verifications, etc. Basically you need a valid reason to gain access to the private juice.)

I’m not siding with the people who are getting bans and suspensions over this, I think it’s hilarious that they’re experiencing exactly what they were dishing out 2 months ago. It’s also hypocritical to act like Flight Tracker is a site synonymous with swatting, doxing and harassment.
I can't speak for others, I personally don't think Flight Tracker is used for those actions or even calling into question this point. The issue is the privacy factor of all this. Celebrity or not, they deserve the same amount of privacy as I do. If I denied this fact, I'd be no different than the people we are laughing at.
 
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Like Uncle Vernon says

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But then again, its not like they wont just pick themselves up and go on what they do somewhere else. They either lack the ability of realise they are a fuck up and should change course or have an unbreakable determination to keep going no matter what. Maybe both.
 
We have an opinion, “journalists” take action and influence tech companies to get people they don’t like taken down. We just laugh and and have an opinion.
Plus, it also does not help that “journalists” like Ben Collins have been on record not just making up lies, but also not seeming to not care that Twitter of old had actual FBI agents working to deplatform, censor and play dumb when they try to politicize the situation thinking that conservative-leaning politicians are making up conspiracy theories to justify even more deplatforming and censoring.

Calling Ben Collins a hack is just putting it nicely.
 
Honestly, NBC is doing him a favor considering how he went on TV and cried that nobody cared about his worthless journalism about some shit on Twitter or a random internet forum. Dude was basically begging the state to illegally start rounding up people for their speech while demanding other journalists help propagandize and that embarrasses the older journalists who probably make up management now when you say it out loud.
 
Plus, us wanting them censored is very different than us doing anything to get them censored.
It's not really censorship when NBC/MSNBC decides Ben Collins is too shit at his job to continue paying.

TLDR: There is a difference between DOT a publicly available app and Lexis Nexis (A database of information, public and not public that debtors and investigative teams use to profile people's history, acquaintances and their entire family tree as well as give there SSNs and other information that could be used for identity theft, surpassing question based verifications, etc. Basically you need a valid reason to gain access to the private juice.)
Not really, you just need to pay them. At almost any school worth anything, you get at least some LexisNexis access. And while actually just paying for it monthly is pretty outrageous, you can also pay a la carte. And there are also cheaper alternatives some of which are becoming almost as good.
 
Jesus, christmas just keeps getting better.

First Caballero gets humiliated such that it's preserved in the congressional record, then Ben Collins shoots himself in the foot over Elon Musk of all fucking people. :story:

And Ben has made the move to Mastadon?

The way things are going I half expect Keffals to accidentally drop irrefutable evidence of pay-for-play between him and Ben Collins within a day or two.
 
God dammit, that one is on my TV right now and Katie Terf is asking him questions like he knows shit about shit.

"The Proud Boys are focusing on Drag Queens and not the January 6th hearings."

How do you know that? Really, how do you know that?

Answer: You don't, you are making suppositions without evidence.
 
God dammit, that one is on my TV right now and Katie Terf is asking him questions like he knows shit about shit.

"The Proud Boys are focusing on Drag Queens and not the January 6th hearings."

How do you know that? Really, how do you know that?

Answer: You don't, you are making suppositions without evidence.
That makes the Proud Boys sound like sane, decent people. Speaking out against the celebration of waving dicks in children's faces is far more important than the Regime's show trials.
 
The fact he thinks the Proud Boys should focus on Jan 6th at all is bizzare and shows how deranged he is. Does he mean they should be speaking against it? If so, why? Doesn't he love to say how they are all for it and evil because of it? Does he mean they should be defending themselves from the accusations they took part in it? Why? You don't go to defend yourself in court without begin summoned, actual courts aren't social media where if someone accuses you in public you can go and speak to a judge to assure you are innocent and insist you did nothing, there needs to be a suit and trial for that to happen.

What the fuck does he actually mean this isn't a rhetorical question.
 
Elon must've threatened a lawsuit or something if NBC is disciplining Collins. Normally as a journo, you can do whatever you want as long as you smear the right people and don't expose your employer to any liability.
Well, that does also depend on the news outlet and the significance of someone being smeared. Reporting on, say, Byuu's suicide has quite a lot of maneuver space because few people, in mainstream measures, give a fuck about him. Most people would just be like "Oh, no! This is terrible that they got bullied!" and then continue with their days. But reporting on someone who is well known even outside their clique doesn't leave that much headroom. You have to put some effort into it.

Secondly, outlets such as CNN and Fox News do not have the same journo standards as, say, Reuters and AP. The latter do require their journos to do their jobs with higher quality. CNN and Fox News are both frequently memed and made fun of due to their nature of having a significant partisan bias. Thus, you really need to do something retarded to tank their reputation. But the latter two have a much higher reputation and thus the stakes are much higher. Even something as insignificant as a journo reeing on Twitter can negatively affect their reputation.

Lastly, there's the guv'ment. Not all countries have the same press freedom. In authoritarian regimes you also get a lot more leeway with smearing the right people compared to democratic regimes. Now sure, if you go unhinged off-meds schizo mode, even in those regimes that won't be acceptable. Except North Korea. Anything that's anti west will pass there, no matter how unhinged and no matter what the mental state of the journo was at the time of writing.

Now, regarding Elon threatening to sue...it is not impossible, seeing how fragile his ego is and his descent into a better educated multibillionaire WingsOfRedemption with a hint of schizo rightism, but at the same time I'm not sure how smart would it be for him financially, seeing that NBC is also a very big company that can also throw money at lawyers. Remember, his Twitter acquisition shitshow did cause him significant financial losses, as, for better or for worse, you can't exactly run Twitter like a fancy version of 4chan and expect advertisers to stick around. Unless he really did get bailed out by some Qatari tycoon.

To be honest tho, I would really like him to sue NBC and lose. IIRC he tried suing Jezza Clarkson TWICE (Elon lost both times BTW) because the orangutan made fun of Tesla cars. How fragile does your ego have to be that you take Top Gear roasting your company (which you didn't even found) seriously? That sounds like something Wings would do if he was a billionaire. "A'ight chat, anyone who makes fun of my skills gets sued"
 
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Missed my point.


You're not helping your case as it makes it sound more like hyper fandom stalking. Post an address, go for it if the public at large can access that information; I think that is the definition of public. From what I understand, this propagandist had to have access to information that isn't public knowledge and it led to someone actually taking action as if they were a supposed "Kiwifarmer". The problem is, I can't verify this information the propagandist put forth because I don't have access to the information behind the private identifier.

To address your point on car license plates, a street is public. Essentially, the scenario as presented by you is not applicable to this situation. Hell, I support LibsofTikTok, however the "dox" of their address, I shrug. It sucks, however, when you are taking an opposing stance as openly as they are, expect and prepare for the worst; ANTIFA is speed running to surpass the KKK in violence. Basically you're describing a legal investigations app that has streamlined a process that I had to use at work as well. (Former, I don't glow that much anymore)

TLDR: There is a difference between DOT a publicly available app and Lexis Nexis (A database of information, public and not public that debtors and investigative teams use to profile people's history, acquaintances and their entire family tree as well as give there SSNs and other information that could be used for identity theft, surpassing question based verifications, etc. Basically you need a valid reason to gain access to the private juice.)


I can't speak for others, I personally don't think Flight Tracker is used for those actions or even calling into question this point. The issue is the privacy factor of all this. Celebrity or not, they deserve the same amount of privacy as I do. If I denied this fact, I'd be no different than the people we are laughing at.
I can't edit my post since it is too old, however, here is a video explaining why it isn't "public" information and in fact was private information. Essentially, someone created a bot using tech available on Amazon to circumvent the PIA ID assigned by the FAA. It is actually a very clever way to do it, keeping it in my back pocket.


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This is also probably why, if true, he was suspended from his job.
 
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