Business Big Tech Layoffs Megathread - Techbros... we got too cocky...

Since my previous thread kinda-sorta turned into a soft megathread, and the tech layoffs will continue until morale improves, I think it's better to group them all together.

For those who want a QRD:


Just this week we've had these going on:

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But it's not just Big Tech, the vidya industry is also cleaning house bigly:

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All in all, rough seas ahead for the techbros.
 
Most of these jobs are actually going overseas, again...

Its not just interest rates, the GOP, always the backstabbers of the American worker, passed a law that closed a tax benefit tech companies got for R&D wages. Now they have to pay 50% taxes so they are simply firing those American employees and hiring foreigners instead for whom they don't have to pay those taxes.

So yeah, thanks for nothing republicans...
The Democrats continue to push for more trannies and diversity bullshit.
The Republicans only care about huge mega corporations.
There is only one thing left to do!
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The Democrats continue to push for more trannies and diversity bullshit.
They also push for huge mega corporations, have been since the clinton era and the obama era was the point of no-return for true leftist democrats, they completely sold out after the bailouts.

The only difference is what carrot on a stick they use to distract the plebs, democrats use the woke diversity bullshit, republicans the conservative values bullshit...
This one actually hurt. They fired all GMs and community managers, some of which have been with Blizzard for 17+ years. Also culled artists and gameplay designers, affecting both Overwatch and Rumble teams. Completely cancelled their in-development survival game, too.
So no coders being fired then? as for those positions my guess is they are gonna get replaced by something from now parent company openAI.
 
Can I just hijack this thread for a second to bitch...

Fuck modernity, fuck agile, fuck pair programming... Why must every company under the sun force me to spend literal days planning and breaking my tasks up into tard chunks. Just let me code. Just let me put on some music and tell the robot what to do.

Fucking hell, 2 days worth of copy pasta stretched out into a weeks worth of pedantic busy work bullshit just to appease some process. I just want to binge my shit and go play Pal World is that too much to fucking ask?!
 
Learn to weld you soy-filled smug faggots
i dont work at a big tech job, but i am looking into trade options such as apprenticeship programs. reason see below.


Can I just hijack this thread for a second to bitch...

Fuck modernity, fuck agile, fuck pair programming... Why must every company under the sun force me to spend literal days planning and breaking my tasks up into tard chunks. Just let me code. Just let me put on some music and tell the robot what to do.

Fucking hell, 2 days worth of copy pasta stretched out into a weeks worth of pedantic busy work bullshit just to appease some process. I just want to binge my shit and go play Pal World is that too much to fucking ask?!

i feel you on this home skillet. like coding, but i hate corporate tech jobs so much. if you just let me code i am happy, but corporate jobs dont do that, but instead make me want to kill myself. god i hate modern programming jobs so much. and i dont even make the huge wages of these big tech jobs either. maybe if i were making 200k a year id feel different, but im making just slightly more than what i would make working a trade.
 
This one actually hurt. They fired all GMs and community managers, some of which have been with Blizzard for 17+ years. Also culled artists and gameplay designers, affecting both Overwatch and Rumble teams. Completely cancelled their in-development survival game, too.
and nothing of value was lost
 
One issue the google fucks will have is that they got salaries that are comparable to directors in other companies and dont have any idea how to deliver work without all of the massive infrastructure and not worrying about costs. They also arent able to deliver on actual leadership positions.

The low middle level google person making 200k isnt gonna find a 200k role at some place that they would be a fit for. Target might hire software devs to handle supply chain or checkout stuff but they wont offer salaries that the google person would take.
 
This one actually hurt. They fired all GMs and community managers, some of which have been with Blizzard for 17+ years. Also culled artists and gameplay designers, affecting both Overwatch and Rumble teams. Completely cancelled their in-development survival game, too.

I'm mixed towards it. They laid off the woke workers, but they even laid off the decent and hard-working employees too.

Unfortunately, we should expect this to happen since it was a merger and acquisition.
 
One issue the google fucks will have is that they got salaries that are comparable to directors in other companies and dont have any idea how to deliver work without all of the massive infrastructure and not worrying about costs. They also arent able to deliver on actual leadership positions.

The low middle level google person making 200k isnt gonna find a 200k role at some place that they would be a fit for. Target might hire software devs to handle supply chain or checkout stuff but they wont offer salaries that the google person would take.

The cost of living/property/rent in California/Seattle is so high that the 200k doesn't mean anything unless you are one of those dudes who sleeps out on the bay and boats around trying to evade the authorities. In some ways it's not just the tech bubble bursting, it's the Cali bubble bursting which is having the knock on effect of hurting all these major tech behemoths headquartered there, which then trickles down to the smaller companies who rely on the technology in an unsure spot.

As far as innovation goes Google have already jumped the shark. Companies are like bands, the first album shakes things up, the second refines the formula, the third is the magnum opus and then the rest is just a slow decline. Innovators don't want to work for bankers, innovators don't want to be bogged down in bureaucracy and process and politics. They want to work late building their pet projects not work late keeping the email server up. Innovators don't want a safe salary at 23, they want to ride the wave, binge for 2 years, sell the startup for a few mill and then go on the next thing.

The problem now is the big companies are so competitive with each other and so incompetent that they can't tell a good acquisition from a bad, it's like they consider the brand/IP and literally nothing else. These execs will buy a steaming pile of curry scented PHP 5 for a client list and everyone knows the game. Except that's not even really the problem because before they even realize this obvious pitfall they have to contend with the sudden existence of interest rates. The acquisition model is broken in every which way now and suddenly they have to look internally and are realizing that they are just cult dressed like a tech company.
 
Developers are fantastically overpaid at these companies. Entry-level software dev makes over $200K at most of them, while that would be a senior or principal position in virtually any other field of engineering, or development in some older software company (reminder that commercial software's been around since the 60s, tons of boring software jobs that pay less than half what a midwit code monkey at AMZN gets). If you actually lead a team, we're talking lead dev on some gay shit like a Roku app, that's $500K+. $900K at some companies. The problem is not just the DEI hires, it's that they've been paying unsustainable blowout salaries because their profit margins have historically been insane.
California wages. They don't pay that much elsewhere. In Shitcago , a 300k job in tech is very high up there
 
Developers are fantastically overpaid at these companies. Entry-level software dev makes over $200K at most of them, while that would be a senior or principal position in virtually any other field of engineering, or development in some older software company (reminder that commercial software's been around since the 60s, tons of boring software jobs that pay less than half what a midwit code monkey at AMZN gets). If you actually lead a team, we're talking lead dev on some gay shit like a Roku app, that's $500K+. $900K at some companies. The problem is not just the DEI hires, it's that they've been paying unsustainable blowout salaries because their profit margins have historically been insane.
Yep, the era of $50k signing bonuses, $200k or more for entry level or basic mid-level roles, and 50% or more bonuses IS OVER.

They'll be getting single digit % pay increases and a LOT less perks.

Profit margins are dropping and money is getting more expensive.
I can only speak for myself (Fintech industry) but it appears to be mostly massive purges of overseas (Poojeet) contractors and non technical roles, project managers, client relations ect.
Agreed, sales and support staff and money losing teams/divisions are getting cut.
I know a whole bunch of people in the bay area and seattle that were laid off from google early last year that are still unemployed.
Many of these are very experienced swe with >10 years of experience.

X, the special projects group at google, had some layoffs last week but everyone that remained were basically told "find a market fit for the project or else". So more layoffs coming there. I expect all ox X development labs to be shuttered quite soon.

It is so fucking bad that people that had borderline TDS spontaneously tell me they will vote for Trump. No question, no hesitation, they will 100% vote for trump.
That is how bad it is. People that were reeeeing about lgbt deathcamps and not my president are now openly saying they will vote for him.


Brace position: Bidenomics seems to hit the tech sector full force this year.
Wow Google is going to be cutting HARD. The X layoffs showed the entire tech world that most of their company staff was ...Useless FAT. Elon laid off something like 60% of the company without real issues.

Since inflation is still above the ~2% target, the Fed most likely won't be dropping rates until the late summer if at all this year. It's currently ~3.6% and not really showing signs of dropping fast.

Money, real estate, and employees are all getting more expensive at the same time.

The era of cheap/free money is ending and it's doubtful we'll see sub 2% interest rates again for a long time.
Yeah this sounds like a good idea but actually isn't.

You won't wanna do it anymore after the first time some hoarder brings in their cockroach-infested car they drove over multiple curbs, demanding loudly that you fix it "under warranty" and also insisting you give them a rental so they can take their brother to the airport in another state, and if you don't they're gonna spend the weekend spamming you with 1 star google reviews from sockpuppet accounts.
That day you vet customers before they arrive with screening calls and online forms and DO NOT advertise as budget ANYTHING.
One issue the google fucks will have is that they got salaries that are comparable to directors in other companies and dont have any idea how to deliver work without all of the massive infrastructure and not worrying about costs. They also arent able to deliver on actual leadership positions.

The low middle level google person making 200k isnt gonna find a 200k role at some place that they would be a fit for. Target might hire software devs to handle supply chain or checkout stuff but they wont offer salaries that the google person would take.
Correct. They don't know what it's like to work for a place without unlimited resources.

You're average googler getting canned is going to have to deal with a solid 15-45% pay cut.
California wages. They don't pay that much elsewhere. In Shitcago , a 300k job in tech is very high up there
Correct, outside of the West Coast and certain spots on the east coast, your entry level software dev or similar role is starting at.... Hmm about $70-90k.

A mid-level to senior role is $125-$180k (high end is for bigger places or superstars)

Directors/Managers will max out at $200-$250k MAYBE pushing $300k of they're literally irreplaceable.

Beyond that is C-suite only or a VP is a big company.
 
I know a whole bunch of people in the bay area and seattle that were laid off from google early last year that are still unemployed.
Many of these are very experienced swe with >10 years of experience.

From experience, a lot of them apply for jobs outside the FAANGs with salary expectations of $400K+, and the response from legacy tech (where I work) is hahahaha no, faggot, a level 3 here are $150K/yr. They legit think they are worth half a mil to the rest of the world because they know how to sort palindromes and do DFS brain teasers.

Those inside stories are interesting, but none of them can correctly diagnose the problem. Google broke its main product, search. Part of it's because Sundar Pichai believes it is Google's role in society to ensure Democrats win Presidential elections. He even said so at an all hands meeting, so search now has various thumbs on the scale to stop you from finding "misinformation" or whatever, but this has the side effect of making searches for obscure things less effective. They also now boost so many paid results that it's like trying to watch network TV with a commercial every 45 seconds.

Pretty much every Googler now is a foaming-at-the-mouth shitlib, so none of them are able to correctly diagnose the first part of the problem. The job of search is to enable the user to find what they are looking for, not to direct the user to what you think they ought to be looking for.
 
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I guess it's premature to imagine some big tech campus falling in dispair and shambles like the former Packard plant in Detroit?
Not too far to imagine, New Jersey and the general North East is dotted with hundreds of formerly high-flying corporate campuses that have been left empty after waves of bankruptcy and consolidation.

All of these are awaiting redevelopment into housing over time, usually being sealed up, or at worst, demolished and left as empty land.
 
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