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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I'm surprised the word Pakistani was even used. I thought these were Asian grooming gangs, all taking place above a Chinese, Thai, whatever takeaway.
In this specific case I suspect they're using that term because if they said "non-white" then they might not be able to say it's not the majority of cases. In addition by saying Pakistani it's only going to be cases where that background is possible to be identified and as we know from the recent report in places riddled with non-white child molesters the local plod avoided capturing that information by not noting ethnicity.

Same weasel words and tactics, we should treat those using them like those animals and combine it with my typical suggestion of going back to more barbarous times. Set the dogs on them.
 
In this specific case I suspect they're using that term because if they said "non-white" then they might not be able to say it's not the majority of cases. In addition by saying Pakistani it's only going to be cases where that background is possible to be identified and as we know from the recent report in places riddled with non-white child molesters the local plod avoided capturing that information by not noting ethnicity.

Same weasel words and tactics, we should treat those using them like those animals and combine it with my typical suggestion of going back to more barbarous times. Set the dogs on them.
They use it cos they don't want to say muslim.
 
They use it cos they don't want to say muslim.
Potentially, I would suspect that they don't bother tracking religion either and if they do they get lies as an answer. But ultimately it's the Met so it's London. White British has been the non-majority for a while so this claim is desperately trying to hide the facts because Sadiq cries when those come out. Looking at the article the officer even admits it.
He said the ethnicities of suspects varied and are "reflective of the diversity we see in the city".
What could get fun is they're working through 9,000 possible cases, have examined 2,200 and discarded 1,000 of those. Some journalist will eventually FOIA the dismissed cases and after years of lawsuits and screaming we'll find out how many of the cases dismissed were white people vs. not.
 
Does this count as a U-turn? Rachel Reeves has abandoned plans for a £2bn tax raid on lawyers, doctors and accountants. According to the Times, the 'exit tax' is also being abandoned, meaning she's going to be reliant on income tax to find 30 billion.
Watching this budget unfold is like waiting for cancer test results.

Everyone is now reporting that the income tax hike is also now scrapped. Presumably the Chief Whip has told them there is no way of getting it past the lobby fodder, much like the disability cuts, and the government cannot take a defeat on the Budget.

Budgets are supply bills, and supply bills are equivalent to motions of confidence. If a government cannot pass a budget, convention says it should resign. Exactly 50 years ago in Australia, the (Labor) PM Gough Whitlam couldn't pass a Budget, but didn't resign. Eventually, he was sacked by the Governor-General (very controversial) and replaced by the Liberal leader who did get a Budget through.

Rach's black hole grows ever larger.
 
Lol, so the same diversity that "is our strength" is also responsible for child abuse. They should have used a different word, people are going to noooooootice.

Eta:

And in today's installment of "treating the symptom instead of the cause":
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The truth is that white people don't need any barriers. You can see this in action at any station where the barriers are open or not working - white people will still tap in because we're not retarded. These extra tall barriers are purely to stop the swarthy fare dodgers. But we can't say that.
 
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The truth is that white people don't need any barriers. You can see this in action at any station where the barriers are open or not working - white people will still tap in because we're not retarded. These extra tall barriers are purely to stop the swarthy fare dodgers. But we can't say that.
I’m a white man who loves bunking the train. It’s a sport in Norf FC. It leads to the question, are northerners white?

I wouldn’t jump a barrier though. Perhaps that is the sign of whiteness?
 
Budgets are supply bills, and supply bills are equivalent to motions of confidence. If a government cannot pass a budget, convention says it should resign.
Starmer would be unlikely to do so, however. It's not law, so he doesn't recognise it. I would expect an actual no confidence motion at that point, possibly even from within the plp, because even they are not so stupid as to not recognise the illegitimacy of a government that refuses to accept it has failed its sole purpose of managing the treasury.
 
Everyone is now reporting that the income tax hike is also now scrapped. Presumably the Chief Whip has told them there is no way of getting it past the lobby fodder, much like the disability cuts, and the government cannot take a defeat on the Budget.

Budgets are supply bills, and supply bills are equivalent to motions of confidence. If a government cannot pass a budget, convention says it should resign. Exactly 50 years ago in Australia, the (Labor) PM Gough Whitlam couldn't pass a Budget, but didn't resign. Eventually, he was sacked by the Governor-General (very controversial) and replaced by the Liberal leader who did get a Budget through.

Rach's black hole grows ever larger.
In complete agreement.

Remember 1979 and the Callaghan Government falling... we're hopefully reaching that point.

VONC, Resignations... I'd not be surprised if Parliament gets prorogued in December whilst Starmer tries in vain to save his skin with the hope that he can somehow keep his administration together.

Edit: As @teriyakiburns points out, Starmer won't recognise the 'law' - therefore he might well go into prorogue mode.

Though, as rightly pointed out, resumption of Parliament will almost certainly see a VONC in the Government pass.

I think that a few more leaks and clangers will come out of the woodwork before Budget Day as well.
 
I’m a white man who loves bunking the train. It’s a sport in Norf FC. It leads to the question, are northerners white?

I wouldn’t jump a barrier though. Perhaps that is the sign of whiteness?
You're really pouring jet fuel on the "Fed is black" truther narrative.

I've had a nig tailgate me through the barrier on the tube. I was furious, like he was making me some kind of criminal accomplice. I look out for that shit now, and I'm always ready to shove someone back through if they try that again. Maybe the extra large barriers will stop me getting shanked?
 
If Starmer were to dig in over the Budget in the same way that Whitlam did, I imagine it would end in a similar way - the Privy Council would advise the King that his Prime Minister no longer commanded the support of Parliament and that he should sack him. The PC would also recommend Starmer's replacement.
 
is excuse was that he didn't realise discipline to that extent wasn't allowed in the UK.
Wrapping a child in plastic and beating her with a cricket bat and biting her before throttling her is accepted discipline in pakistan? Maybe it is, and if so not a single one of the buggers should be close to a British child.
They tortured her to death. He’s absolute scum, and the entire system is an applogia for him and his ilk. Nobody saved this poor little girl, because they didn’t want to. He was given custody, nobody cared
 
Wrapping a child in plastic and beating her with a cricket bat and biting her before throttling her is accepted discipline in pakistan? Maybe it is, and if so not a single one of the buggers should be close to a British child.
They tortured her to death. He’s absolute scum, and the entire system is an applogia for him and his ilk. Nobody saved this poor little girl, because they didn’t want to. He was given custody, nobody cared
Throwing acid at women is practically their national sport, let alone beating childrne. Fucking animals, the neighbour who didn't report for fears of racism ought to be charged too. I hope that girl haunts her. A ten year old girl wearing a hijab so her family could hide her injuries, appalling.

James McMurdock, Independent MP, had an Amazon delivery driver enter his home on doorbell camera. Emphasis mine;
It was lucky that I was in the right place to confront him immediately, but it shocked me and the question that keeps coming back to me is this: What if my wife or teenage daughter had been standing in my place? The footage is clear: the driver approaches the door, breathing heavily, he checks the handle, and pushes his way inside. I don’t know what his intentions were, and that is exactly the point.I contacted the police. Their exact words were:“Trespass is a civil matter. There’s nothing we can do.”
McMurdock is now planning to advocate in Parliament for laws criminalizing unauthorized residential entries. Good to see our MPs get culturally enriched.
 
James McMurdock, Independent MP, had an Amazon delivery driver enter his home on doorbell camera. Emphasis mine;
The police saying it's a civil matter are only correct by omission. Civil trespass is generally accidental or harmless, such as crossing a field or an unfenced garden without permission, or driving on a private road. Things of that nature. The criminal justice and public order act , section 68, defines aggravated trespass, where the trespassing person does so Intentionally and with intention to intimidate, obstruct or disrupt the lawful activity of others. The disruptive acts themselves don't need to be illegal to make this a criminal offence. A person deliberately entering someone's home would easily be convicted of aggravated trespass, as their intent to enter the home is in itself an intent to disrupt the lawful activity of others.

Pigs are just lazy and don't want to risk being called racist, so they ignore it.
 
McMurdock is now planning to advocate in Parliament for laws criminalizing unauthorized residential entries. Good to see our MPs get culturally enriched.
As I have said a thousand times before; it’s only when they face the consequences of their actions that they realise. All MPs, all people involved with mass migration and all similar things, should have to live in the most diverse, deprived ward they run, with no security, no gates, and no secure transport.
When they can live in nice gated communities or remote rural areas, they do not face what they create.
 
Adnan Hussein has resigned from Your Party and will continue as an Independent MP.
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'those who may be socially conservative yet economically left leaning' is code for benefit scrounging muzzies btw. He is 'deeply troubled' by the way Muslim men have been spoken about and treated in regards to the party.
800,000 pounds of supporter funds are still missing.
 
Been busy today but back now.

Mark your diaries for December 8th (John Lennon Day) as there'll be a Parliamentary debate on Digital ID's.

GB News bits:

* Politics LIVE: Wes Streeting takes thinly veiled swipe at Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves as he refuses to rule out leadership bid

* Reform UK bags best win yet in election blitz as Nigel Farage romps to victory - but who was the biggest loser?

* SAS recruitment plummets under Labour as officers fear they will face criminal actions over split-second decisions

* Navy Admiral 'impersonator' who 'blagged his way into Remembrance event' arrested

* Kemi Badenoch urges Keir Starmer to 'get on the phone' to Donald Trump and ask him not to sue BBC

* King Charles marks 77th birthday with new photo portrait from Sandringham

* Watch the hilarious moment Welsh Councillor in Towyn appears to fall asleep in the middle of a meeting

* BBC warned not to use licence fee money to settle with Donald Trump amid legal war threat says Sir John Whittingdale

* Good riddance to Police and Crime commissioners — but hell no to who is replacing them — Peter Bleksley

* Man pleads guilty to homemade bomb plot as part of major terror attack at Army barracks near Windsor Castle

* Labour's eco-adviser demands pay-per-litre charge for watering YOUR garden

* Locals fuming after 'selfish' Ed Sheeran plans to convert two cottages into one home in picturesque village

* Mother set to become first woman extradited from Britain to Albania after attempting to fly with fake passport

* Full list of stealth tax options Rachel Reeves could target in Budget as Income Tax hike ruled out

* TV station which backs Iran regime has UK broadcast licence

* Chinese national branded ‘one of the most prolific sex offenders of all time’ by police jailed at Woolwich Crown Court

* Donald Trump's legal letter to the BBC warning of 'overwhelming financial and reputational harm' - READ IN FULL

(As it's Friday, here it is in full...)

'Dear All:

This law firm serves as litigation counsel for President Donald J. Trump (hereinafter referred to as “President Trump”). Please direct all future correspondence relating to this matter to my attention. This correspondence serves as a demand under Florida Statute § 770.011 that you immediately retract the false, defamatory, disparaging, and inflammatory statements made about President Trump, which were published in a Panorama documentary that was fabricated and aired by the BBC. Failure to comply will leave President Trump with no choice but to pursue any and all legal rights and remedies available to recover damages for the overwhelming financial and reputational harm that the BBC has caused him to suffer, with all rights and remedies being expressly reserved by President Trump.

In the Panorama documentary, titled “Trump: A Second Chance,”2 which was first broadcast on October 28, 2024—a week before the 2024 United States presidential election—the BBC intentionally sought to completely mislead its viewers by splicing together three separate parts of President Trump’s speech to supporters on January 6, 2021. The documentary showed President Trump telling supporters: “We’re gonna walk down to the Capitol and I’ll be there with you and we fight. We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” This fabricated depiction of President Trump was false and defamatory given that President Trump’s actual and full remarks were: “We’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you, we’re going to walk down, we’re going to walk down any one of you but I think right here, we’re going to walk down to the Capitol and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressman and women.” Moreover, the BBC edited out President Trump saying, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” Thus, as set forth in an internal whistleblower memorandum, the BBC’s segment maliciously made it appear that President Trump “[said] things [he] never actually said,” by editing together footage from the start of the speech with a separate quote early an hour later.

Due to their salacious nature, the fabricated statements that were aired by the BBC have been widely disseminated throughout various digital mediums, which have reached tens of millions of people worldwide. Consequently, the BBC has caused President Trump to suffer overwhelming financial and reputational harm.

A. Applicable law.

Words are defamatory under Florida law when “they tend to subject one to hatred, distrust, ridicule, contempt or disgrace or tend to injure one in one's business or profession.” Johnston v. Borders, 36 F.4th 1254, 1275 (11th Cir. 2022) (quoting Am. Airlines, Inc. v. Geddes, 960 So. 2d 830, 833 (Fla. 3d DCA 2007) (citation and quotation marks omitted)). Statements are defamatory if “the defendant juxtaposes a series of facts so as to imply a defamatory connection between them, or creates a defamatory implication by omitting facts.” Johnston v. Borders, 36 F.4th 1254, 1275 (11th Cir. 2022) (quoting Jews for Jesus, 997 So. 2d at 1108). Further, “where the speaker or writer neglects to provide the audience with an adequate factual foundation prior to engaging in the offending discourse, liability may arise.” See Zambrano v. Devanesan, 484 So. 2d 603, 607 (Fla. 4th DCA 1986).

Even if the BBC attempts to whitewash its conduct as simply an expression of its opinions, Florida law makes clear that such a defense will not absolve its liability. See Dershowitz v. Cable News Network, Inc., 541 F. Supp. 3d 1354, 1362 (S.D. Fla. 2021); see also Milkovich v. Lorain Journal Co., 497 U.S. 1, 18-19 (1990) (“Even if the speaker states the facts upon which he bases his opinion, if those facts are either incorrect or incomplete, or if his assessment of them is erroneous, the statement may still imply a false assertion of fact. Simply couching such statements in terms of opinion does not dispel these implications.”) (emphasis added); see also Eastern Air Lines, Inc. v. Gellert, 438 So. 2d 923, 927 (Fla. 3d DCA 1983) (“[A] statement that although ostensibly in the form of an opinion ‘implies the allegation of undisclosed defamatory facts as the basis for the opinion’ is actionable.”) (emphasis added).

Consequently, the BBC lacks any viable defense to the overwhelming reputational and financial harm it has caused President Trump to suffer.

B. Demand.

The above-referenced false, defamatory, malicious, disparaging, and inflammatory statements were published to deliberately denigrate President Trump. The timing of the fabricated documentary is evident. The BBC’s reckless disregard for the truth underscores the actual malice behind the decision to publish the wrongful content, given the plain falsity of the statements. Accordingly, President Trump hereby demands that you: (1) immediately issue a full and fair retraction of the documentary and any and all other false, defamatory, disparaging, misleading, and inflammatory statements about President Trump in as conspicuous a manner as they were originally published; (2) immediately issue an apology for the false, defamatory, disparaging, misleading, and inflammatory statements about President Trump; and (3) appropriately compensate President Trump for the harm caused.

Moreover, please allow this letter to serve as notice to you, to your affiliated entities, subsidiaries, to all of their employees, and any other person acting on behalf of or in concert with the BBC, to preserve any and all evidence related in any way to the above-mentioned malicious, false, and defamatory statements the BBC published, and any other statements that the BBC has published regarding President Trump. By way of this letter, the BBC is hereby directed not to destroy, conceal, or alter any paper or electronic files, physical evidence, and/or other data relating in any way, no matter how remote, to your false claims regarding President Trump, and/or the circumstances leading to their dissemination, including, but not limited to: (1) all communications between you and any third party in any way related to your wrongful claims regarding President Trump; (2) all sources for your false claims regarding President Trump; (3) any and all documents and data referring to, reflecting, or relating to communications between you and any such third-parties or sources regarding your false claims regarding President Trump; and (4) any and all documents in any way related to your false claims regarding President Trump. This includes any information alleged to be protected by Florida Statute § 90.5015. Monarch Air Group, LLC v. Journalism Dev. Network, Inc., No. 23-CV-61256, 2025 WL 445491, at *1 (S.D. Fla. Feb. 10, 2025) (interpreting Fla. Stat. § 90.5015 and explaining that the Eleventh Circuit “recognizes a qualified privilege for journalists, allowing them to resist compelled disclosure of their professional news gathering efforts. This privilege shields reporters in both criminal and civil proceedings.”) (quoting United States v. Capers, 708 F.3d 1286, 1303 (11th Cir. 2013)).

I understand that many records and files are maintained electronically. However, this letter specifically requests that all paper and hard copy originals be maintained and preserved in their original format. By the same token, electronic documents and the storage media on which they reside may contain relevant, discoverable information beyond that which may be found in printed documents. Therefore, even where a paper copy exists and has been preserved, please preserve and maintain all electronically stored documents in their original native format, including all metadata. This preservation demand specifically encompasses any and all electronic documents, including but not limited to, all word-processed files, emails, spreadsheets, all databases, log files, and any other electronically stored and/or generated documents or files.

If the BBC does not comply with the above by November 14, 2025, at 5:00 p.m. EST, President Trump will be left with no alternative but to enforce his legal and equitable rights, all of which are expressly reserved and are not waived, including by filing legal action for no less than $1,000,000,000 (One Billion Dollars) in damages. The BBC is on notice.

PLEASE GOVERN YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY.

Very truly yours,

/sneed/ Alejandro Brito

ALEJANDRO BRITO'
 
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As I have said a thousand times before; it’s only when they face the consequences of their actions that they realise. All MPs, all people involved with mass migration and all similar things, should have to live in the most diverse, deprived ward they run, with no security, no gates, and no secure transport.
When they can live in nice gated communities or remote rural areas, they do not face what they create.
It's an actual repeat of Bourbon monarchy.
 
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