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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Fly-tippers bury field in 'shocking' mountain of waste

Not sure if this got mentioned here yet but some group quite literally dumped over one hundred ton of litter in a UK field and now resembles something out of India. It's also directly next to a river so that will likely also turn into something out of India in the very close future.

The local council came out and admitted they don't have the funds to clean this up and are appealing to the government for the funds.
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That looks very level to say someone randomly threw rubbish on the floor. I would expect undulations where each van reversed up and tipped it out.
It almost looks photoshopped.
 
That looks very level to say someone randomly threw rubbish on the floor. I would expect undulations where each van reversed up and tipped it out.
It almost looks photoshopped.
Watch the video. You can see the peaks and dips from multiple tippers and diggers over a long period. It's primarily plastic from what I can see, which means it's a recycling firm contracted to handle the output from one or more of the local "recycling centres". They've clearly been dumping this for a long time, probably more than a year.

Recycling is going to be one of the next big scandals in a few years. The vast majority of recycled plastic is transported abroad, often to India. What isn't transported abroad ends up in warehouses, or in this case a field, where it moulders for years and is then abandoned. Very little gets re-used. The majority is burned, or ends up in landfill after a few years delay. Councils know this is happening but they ignore it, because they're all working on the "store it now and we'll find a solution later" plan. The only recycling that actually works is metals and organic waste, because they both have a profitable end product. Everything else is a waste of time.

edit: to add, the reason it looks relatively smooth is because they've driven over the top of it as they dumped. They've started at the top end, where they entered the site, and built out the pile over time in a long, even layer. There's plenty of evidence of trucks turning on the dirt and gravel at that end. Most of the gulley is hidden from the road and surrounding views by trees and the shape of the land, which is why it took so long to become visible from the river.
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The rubbish will be dumped at the site entrance and then spread out, extending the pile down the gulley over time. You can just about make out the tracks of a bulldozer riding over it to spread the waste out. Like a landfill, but without any care for what happens afterwards.

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Some YourParty updates.
Firstly- Iqbal Mohamed is getting into twitter spats over whether Adnan Hussain (who quit days ago) is transphobic because he doesn't think men should be in the womens room- SHOCKER that the conservative Muslim man doesn't approve of faggotry!
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They haven't managed to honour kill Sultana yet (despite her allegedly stepping down she's still there), and she has now used AI to generate this slop poster for the Durham launch. Hahahhaha dumb bitch. None of the Muslim men in the party respect you.
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Found something that might interest those here. There's a publisher that works to bring back in print Anglo-Saxon and Old English works that have never gotten an English translation or are so out of print they're expensive. Larping Neo-Pagans aside it's still interesting https://www.hyldyr.com/ / https://www.mimisbrunnr.info/about
In operation since 2015, Mimisbrunnr.info is a unique, web-based project focused on the field of ancient Germanic Studies, the academic study of the ancient Germanic language-speaking peoples. As of 2025, Mimisbrunnr.info is a resource provided by Hyldyr, an independent, experimental, and folklore-focused publishing house that developed from Mimisbrunnr.info.

Mimisbrunnr.info aims to provide a variety of useful resources and tools for academics, creatives, and other interested parties: For example, the site hosts an ongoing symbol database (Kvasir Symbol Database) and a variety of translation surveys (such as Eddic to English, Edda to English, and An English History of a Danish History).

The project has to date produced a variety of other unique items, such as a general reader-focused guide to Getting Started with Norse Mythology, an index to Rudolf Simek’s Dictionary of Northern Mythology and an original annotated translation of the second Merseburg Charm.

Mimisbrunnr.info is operated and maintained by Joseph S. Hopkins and features contribution from numerous contributors. The project’s core goal is strictly academic in nature: All project members hold degrees related to the field of ancient Germanic studies. While Mimisbrunnr.info developed from an academic reading group at the University of Georgia (see History section below), the project is not directly associated with any educational institution, nor is it affiliated with any political or religious group.

As mentioned above, as of 2025, Mimisbrunnr.info is a resource funded by Hyldyr, an independent and experimental published house focused on folklore studies. Hyldyr combines the works of academics and artists to produce a wide variety of folklore-associated topics and features contributions from numerous academics and artists. Hyldyr developed out of Mimisbrunnr.info in 2023 and to date Hyldyr has published print editions of various Mimisbrunnr.info projects.

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There's also the Dumbarton Oaks Medieval Library managed by Harvard where they republish Old English and Medieval Latin, Greek and Spanish works.
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/series/dumbarton-oaks-medieval-library
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This has been going on for multiple years.
Good write up. I can only think, with how close it is to a road and a farmers field, that the council are complicit in this tipping, at best knowing about it and doing nothing, at worst, having links to the recycling firm that is dumbing this.

What i've never understood since my earliest chemistry lessons in primary school, is why we don't just burn the plastic, capture the fumes and using a cross between reverse osmosis and condensation, capture and then separate the chemicals in the fumes, ready to be sold on to industries that can re-use them.

The only sensible answer I ever received was "it's possible, but very expensive". Which is fine, but considering how much we pump into the 'green' scam and 'carbon footprint' seems to fall flat on its arse.
 
Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp has now committed the Tories to a policy of deporting 1 - 2 million illegals (why not all?).

I'm actually starting to like this Mahmood stinklord, she's shifted the Overton window overnight from Reform's weak guess of ~800k to at least 2 - 5 million as they'll have to do more than the Tories. The more desperate Labour gets, the more they're helping the country.

Still a long way off an election (unless Christmas comes early) but if this keeps momentum, we'll have at least two main parties committing to mass deportations of at least a million. Contrast that to where we were during the 2024 election. Labour really did inherit a tinderbox of a country and then threw 50,000 matches in, didn't they? Even the Brexit 2016 - 2019 years seems quaint compared to what's happening now.

:story:

I'll probably be back in the "nothing ever happens" camp tomorrow, but I'm enjoying myself tonight.

EDIT: Imagine how much fun the panel shows will be during an election campaign when the Tories and Labour have to go on a stage and defend their policies of the past 50 years whilst promising they've changed. Cannot. Wait.
 
Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp has now committed the Tories to a policy of deporting 1 - 2 million illegals (why not all?).

I'm actually starting to like this Mahmood stinklord, she's shifted the Overton window overnight from Reform's weak guess of ~800k to at least 2 - 5 million as they'll have to do more than the Tories. The more desperate Labour gets, the more they're helping the country.

Still a long way off an election (unless Christmas comes early) but if this keeps momentum, we'll have at least two main parties committing to mass deportations of at least a million. Contrast that to where we were during the 2024 election. Labour really did inherit a tinderbox of a country and then threw 50,000 matches in, didn't they? Even the Brexit 2016 - 2019 years seems quaint compared to what's happening now.

:story:

I'll probably be back in the "nothing ever happens" camp tomorrow, but I'm enjoying myself tonight.

EDIT: Imagine how much fun the panel shows will be during an election campaign when the Tories and Labour have to go on a stage and defend their policies of the past 50 years whilst promising they've changed. Cannot. Wait.
I notice everyone is avoiding saying six million.
 
This is why he was so reluctant to fire her back then. As long as she was in the cabinet, he could keep her neutralised, monitored, and isolated.

Torygraph reports a claim that she's already offering cabinet roles, so it sounds like this is a firm bet. I guess we're going to see at least a three-way race between Starmer, Rayner, and Streeting. They'll probably be openly courting the unions in a few weeks.
Can you imagine Rayner as the Prime Minister? UK will be the laughing stock of the world.

(Yes, yes, all you people replying "it already is". You're very smart).
 
Can you imagine Rayner as the Prime Minister?
She's been on maneuvers and hasn't even paid that 40k stamp duty yet. She who wields the knife never wears the crown.

It'll probably be Streeting, he's now untouchable (and quite popular in the PLP) after the insane comms fuckups from No. 10 this week. It's pretty damning for Labour that their only true assets are Wes Streeting who is in probably the most poisoned chalice of departments at health. Then there's Rayner who recently got fired for tax evasion and isn't particularly popular with the public.

Streeting, Rayner, Starmer and the entire cabinet (pretty much) would also lose their seats with current polling, so they have to choose (or parachute) someone with a safe seat. Starting to get really rare around the country for Labour.
 
That's because we need to keep the numbers realistic. Out of the 70 million, 6 million are illegal. Of those 1 million, we need to deport every single one.

That's 200k deportations. It's simple maths.
If history has taught us anything it's that getting rid of six million people is very achievable, even under less than ideal economic conditions.
 
@Crunkle, I agree with you on Mahmood. She's doing an excellent job of putting ideas out there which need to be mainstream.

Nothing that she is saying will be done by her, but it's making ideas like mass deportations and the removal of financial aid from liars and parasites who come here illegally, acceptable in the majority because they're being said by a member of the establishment.

Not sure who in Davos instructed her to say this but it's pushing the Overton window to the far, far right which is where it needs to be for us to sort this absolute fuck show out.

Also 11 million were killed in KatZets by the Nazis, not 6. Don't let the Joo domination of that period and narrative hamper a higher, but still realistic target.
 
The only sensible answer I ever received was "it's possible, but very expensive". Which is fine, but considering how much we pump into the 'green' scam and 'carbon footprint' seems to fall flat on its arse.
The real answer is that it doesn't benefit the right people. There's not a huge amount of opportunity to grift and skim from chemicals production.
 
Nothing that she is saying will be done by her
It's just soundbites put out there to try and see if there's any poll movement before they get rid of Starmer. Also an intentional distraction to try and make the days until the budget seem shorter and less bloody.

Would be quite funny if Streeting became PM through the back door. Oh, said the actor to the bishop.

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Why does everyone think the fly-tippers are foreign?
This is not British behaviour. Even if the people responsible were directly descended from the first King of England, they have been tainted and are British no more. They need to go. (preferably under that heap)

It's hard work too, so you don't see many blacks or Asians.
Chinese. I'll put £10 on it.

Recycling is going to be one of the next big scandals in a few years. The vast majority of recycled plastic is transported abroad, often to India. What isn't transported abroad ends up in warehouses, or in this case a field, where it moulders for years and is then abandoned. Very little gets re-used. The majority is burned, or ends up in landfill after a few years delay. Councils know this is happening but they ignore it, because they're all working on the "store it now and we'll find a solution later" plan. The only recycling that actually works is metals and organic waste, because they both have a profitable end product. Everything else is a waste of time.
Another thing about recycling plastic is that it degrades every time, which is why you often see "made with 70% recycled plastic". It's the same with paper, the fibres get shorter and shorter so there needs to be a constant influx of virgin material to maintain the quality. And those "bio-degradable" plastic bags are a con, they just break down into micro-plastics and contaminate the compost. Metals and glass can be recycled indefinitely.

What i've never understood since my earliest chemistry lessons in primary school, is why we don't just burn the plastic, capture the fumes and using a cross between reverse osmosis and condensation, capture and then separate the chemicals in the fumes, ready to be sold on to industries that can re-use them.

The only sensible answer I ever received was "it's possible, but very expensive". Which is fine, but considering how much we pump into the 'green' scam and 'carbon footprint' seems to fall flat on its arse.
It's never about the money, or the environment, it's always power and control. Some of the first fuels that Mr. Diesel tried in his engine were plant-based, we can just grow more (carbon-neutral, renewable, sustainable, green) diesel if we need to, but that would allow people to just carry on with their lives. Our betters have decided that we need to scar the countryside, destroy habitats, and genocide wildlife, with the infrastructure necessary to support a wind/solar based electrical grid that will never have the capacity to support the current demand, never mind the substantially increased demand that full electrification will bring, all for the sake of "protecting the environment".
 
The real answer is that it doesn't benefit the right people. There's not a huge amount of opportunity to grift and skim from chemicals production.
You can't plant your failsons and faildaughters from the trust fund on the chemical boards of these projects like you can with a green NGO or shell front. The chemical industry is very old in Britain and I doubt would be amenable to such people as patrons.
 
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