Call of Duty Thread - Potential return to form? Or nothing but cope on the horizon? You decide!

COD is just making a mockery of itself because retards are willing to throw wads of money their way to play as their favorite cartoon character.
It is still crazy to me to see normalfags running around with £15 skins (of a £60 game) or playing as a female character (wearing something skintight) when they're a dude IRL. I still remember when normalfags wouldn't pay for expansions or call you 'sad' for playing as a female character.
 
Most of the dudes who claimed they played as girls cause it was gay to stare at guy ass in games when I was a kid ended up being faggots or lusting after trannies.

Then again I posted on Gamefaqs when I was a kid.
You don't even get to stare at their ass in a FPS. 0 excuse.
 
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Most of the dudes who claimed they played as girls cause it was gay to stare at guy ass in games when I was a kid ended up being faggots or lusting after trannies.

Then again I posted on Gamefaqs when I was a kid.
I remember gears 3, everyone wanted to play the females or the kantus because of their smaller hitboxes.
 
In CoD4, what were the Ultranationalists role with the Russians? Were the OpFor just hired mercenaries for the Russians? I almost forget that you fight Russians in CoD4.
 
Most of the dudes who claimed they played as girls cause it was gay to stare at guy ass.....
I mean, if this wasn't TYOOL 2023, I could see an excuse being made to look at pretty women on screen in the Red Sonja or Dirty Pair sense,

But I was more thinking how normalfags' sense of coolness/uncoolness is completely dependent whatever the supposed cool thing is, even if it's completely contrary to their tastes.
 
Nu MW:
>Pretended to have non-combatants as a feature, only occurs in one mission
>Pretended to have a more complex and "grey" story, literally just bad guys vs good guys again
>Pretends to cover modern geopolitical issues, doesn't say or do anything interesting with them
>Story has no major stakes
>Story has no real consequences
>Literally no one of note dies

OG story feels like a fun dumb action movie. Nu story feels like it's trying to be a more "serious" thriller (something like Sicario perhaps), but doesn't have the balls to actually say or do anything.
Non-combatants were actually a thing for like three missions, but yeah they did not do that enough. Easily the best parts of the 1st one and you can just tell they were getting too close to the sun. It honestly was sobering when so many of them were getting shot and you had to prioritize your safety on hard difficulty.

The problem is the bad guys are russians again and I was getting sick of it. Absolutely sick, becouse even more so then all the other games combined they were laying it on THICK how evil they were. And this shit was before the krain war so I can only imagine how terrible this would be now. There was one neat moment where one of your guys went and started commiting war crimes against Russians but he gets a slap on the wrist if I remember.

It was worse then that, they attributed an american war crime to the Russians, the highway of death. the best thing the game did was show its take on the bengazi embassy attack and take away night vision goggles.

The entire story felt like you could have slotted it in as a prequel to COD 4 if you changed the names. One guy dies but he dies in the most pointless and stupid manner possible.

As a rule of thumb, when the game was dealing with the dirty business of fighting an insurgency it was great, but that was only like..... 30 to 40 percent of the game. The rest of it was spent fighting those EVIL russians who were kicking puppys and shit. Seriously they invaded america red dawn style in og MW2 and they were portrayed with more respect in that one. Mainly because the originals did not feel the need to give much characterization beyond 'this guys evil we need to kill him" honestly kinda miss that simplicity.

I need to check out MW2 to see if it's the same
 
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There was one neat moment where one of your guys went and started commiting war crimes against Russians but he gets a slap on the wrist if I remember.
Yeah. He comes back in MW2 and is the focus of the raid missions. He doesn't get a slap on the wrist this time.
 
The problem is the bad guys are russians again and I was getting sick of it. Absolutely sick, becouse even more so then all the other games combined they were laying it on THICK how evil they were. And this shit was before the krain war so I can only imagine how terrible this would be now. There was one neat moment where one of your guys went and started commiting war crimes against Russians but he gets a slap on the wrist if I remember.
It seemed at least somewhat based around the Syrian Civil War and the subsequent Russian intervention, but with the Syrian government completely written out of it for some dumb reason. So they just kind of mash the warcrimes of both sides together and assign it all to Russia (when in reality Russia was too busy bombing civilians to be raping them). Syria's an interesting subject to cover if they really wanted a more "grey" story, because literally no side comes out of it smelling like roses. And they kind of flirted with it, given some of the plot points around not-al-Qaeda and the generic good guy rebels. But they lacked the balls (and probably intelligence) to portray the actual reality, where the rebel groups were badly fractured, poorly trained, horribly outnumbered by the jihadists, and many were possibly compromised.
It was worse then that, they attributed an american war crime to the Russians, the highway of death.
Probably wasn't a war crime. Excessive, maybe, but it was against legitimate military targets. It's definitely in bad taste to include it in the game as an act by a rival country though (and spice it up by making the victims civilians).
best thing the game did was show its take on the bengazi embassy attack and take away night vision goggles.
100% agreed. Was an actually fun mission too.
 
It is still crazy to me to see normalfags running around with £15 skins (of a £60 game) or playing as a female character (wearing something skintight) when they're a dude IRL. I still remember when normalfags wouldn't pay for expansions or call you 'sad' for playing as a female character.
Whenever I talked to these people with paypig skins and called them out, they just called me "poor" or "stupid". That's all you really need to know about them, really, if that's their reaction to tossing 15-25$ on a skin they will use for less than a year before they purchase another 60-70$ game to start over again. I should note that these same people always accused me and others of "cheating" whenever they got killed too much(happened often) and quit the lobby whenever they didn't get their preferred maps.
Well, they're still feeding the machine(and more than ever now since DMZ mode in MW5/2022 has started to drop Pay to Win microtransactions) for a false sense of satisfaction and superiority over others, and people like us get to keep their money and their dignity. I would say it's a win-win. Hopefully XDefiant won't bomb so that there is at least an alternative, even if it comes from Ubisoft(not any better than Acti-Blizzard)

In CoD4, what were the Ultranationalists role with the Russians? Were the OpFor just hired mercenaries for the Russians? I almost forget that you fight Russians in CoD4.
In COD4, Russia has a civil war between the loyalist government and Ultra Nationalist Commie terrorists funded by a wealthy and influential cold war era gun runner(which explains their high end weapons they use). OpFor are just generic middle eastern terrorists unrelated to the rest of the game, since Activision didn't have the balls to just call them a real terror group name.
The UltraNationalists in Cod4 win the civil war after Zakhaev becomes a martyr and that also explains(rather poorly) why Russians are running around with Spas 12s and FALs in MW2 and 3, since the Ultra Nationalist party is in control and the whole army got refitted with more modern, western gear.
More confusingly, there are ultra-ultra nationalists in MW2 and MW3 which are considered too hardcore even for the ruling class, which would be Makarov and his men, called "The Inner Circle". Even if the politicians don't see eye to eye with him, Makarov still has pull with the military, which is why you often see Spetsnaz and other ground troops fighting alongside his hand picked men.
 
More confusingly, there are ultra-ultra nationalists in MW2 and MW3 which are considered too hardcore even for the ruling class, which would be Makarov and his men, called "The Inner Circle". Even if the politicians don't see eye to eye with him, Makarov still has pull with the military, which is why you often see Spetsnaz and other ground troops fighting alongside his hand picked men.
Their pull to the Russian military came after the No Russian mission from Makarov. Pvt. Allen took the blame after Makarov sabotaged his cover, which gave Russia the go ahead to declare war on American soil with the Ultranationalists' sanction.

OpFor are just generic middle eastern terrorists unrelated to the rest of the game, since Activision didn't have the balls to just call them a real terror group name.
If they're unrelated, explain Al-Asad's televised assassination of a Middle Eastern president?
 
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Makarov rose to power in the 80s, after saving Zakhaev's life. By the time COD4 starts, he already has his place as an independent element within Ultranationalists, with his own men and small private army. You're right, in that once the party takes over officially at the end of CoD4, and especially after the Airport Massacre most if not all Russian troops that invade Western Europe are under his command, or at the very least have his commanders in charge. Think about it, why invade Europe when it was the CIA that was supposedly shooting up Russian Civilians? Russians were out for blood, and Makarov was there to direct their anger in a way that benefited him.

As for Al-Asad, his role is relatively minor: His whole job was to stage a coup to attract as many US troops as possible. Remember the nuke found in Crew Expandable? Asad had a similar, if not the same exact nuke delivered to him by Makarov, and was tasked with luring US troops to the capital and detonating it, to kill as many men as possible while he lived out the rest of his life somewhere in Bahamas...well, that was the plan anyways, before SAS got ahold of him.
The purpose of the nuke was twofold: To benefit both Makarov and Shepherd, who even then were working together. Shepherd got his war, and Makarov got his CIA patsy Shepherd promised down the line. All of this lead to WW3 once UltraNationalists won the war and US accelerated their invasion of the Middle East, after the Airport Massacre: Shepherd wanted to bring back the days of good old armed conflict, to make American Military patriotic and great again, where as Makarov wanted to take over all of Europe...or glass it, should that fail, and bring back the days of Russian Tsars and ultimate supremacy. Of course, each saw the other as a loose end, so before any of that could happen, both went at each other's throats when WW3 has just barely begun, add to that TF141 and all the other factions you meet along the way and you got a plot of a great action thriller. Sadly, the new trilogy failed to capture that magic for me, it was too tryhard and ended up not showing a goddamn thing that mattered, it was just a set of loosely connected setpieces and nostalgia pandering(and unironic glownigger propaganda).

I might be wrong with some of the details here, I haven't played the games in forever but I do believe that's how all this fits together. Of course, things get even more complicated if you believe Black Ops takes place in the same universe, which is actually canon as of the nu-universe with Cold War being a prequel to MW4/MW2019(as it has Zakhaev)...that would also make every single event in the Zombies universe canon in the MW storyline and that's a convoluted chronology that makes Legend of Zelda lore look straightforward and easy to understand.
Anyways, I hope I answered the question, it's rare I get to sperg out about COD these days(usually at the state of it rather than it's previous content)
 
If they're unrelated, explain Al-Asad's televised assassination of a Middle Eastern president?
Initially the OpFor were a legitimate revolutionary paramilitary organization led by Al-Asad that rose to power and overthrew the government of Saudi-Arabia and executed its president Yasir Al-Fulani. Al-Asad’s rise to power also brought Iraq and Kuwait under his fold. This quickly prompted military intervention by a Western coalition (mainly the United States) to stop his growing sphere of influence in Arabic nations and keep political stability in the Middle East. Following his nuclear detonation in Southern Iraq it’s likely he used his grandiose plan as a way to fake his death and be a martyr to his remaining revolutionary fighters to continue their fight against the U.S. and the U.K. while he laid low in a safe house in Azerbaijan. However, the S.A.S. were given information by their informant Nikolai of where Al-Asad may be hiding and he was promptly taken down by Captain Price’s team. His whole coup in Saudi Arabia and intermittently several Arab nations was supplied by the Ultranationalist movement in Russia as a diversionary method. However in Modern Warfare 2 OpFor remnants are fought in Afghanistan but lack the militarized strength and equipment they did in CoD 4 so they’re at that point a remnant terror group inspired by Al-Asad’s movement that sprung up in Afghanistan during its instability with Islamic State terror groups.
 
In CoD4, what were the Ultranationalists role with the Russians? Were the OpFor just hired mercenaries for the Russians? I almost forget that you fight Russians in CoD4.
IIRC Russia is in the middle of a civil war between Loyalists and Ultranationalists or something. OpFor (the sandniggers) overthrew their government, killed their president on live TV (the first level) and then got invaded by the US because... honestly, I don't remember.
 
I would say it's a win-win.
I wouldn't, they doing gangbusters on a broken product with almost no incentive to fix it, with no real competition. The most annoying thing about this COD MP is that there's a decent game underneath it but it's marred by their neglect like the terrible spawn system, or that UAV bug that's never been fixed, the absolutelty fucking terrible connections in MP games or literally having a screenshotted mouse cursor in their loading screens.

I don't think even BF is competing with it anymore.
 
I don't think even BF is competing with it anymore.
I don't think DICE knows what to do with Battlefield anymore. EA is already competing with Warzone 2 through Apex Legends. Battlefield is not a yearly franchise, so it'd have to compete with whatever Call of Duty comes out then.

Whenever I talked to these people with paypig skins and called them out, they just called me "poor" or "stupid". That's all you really need to know about them, really, if that's their reaction to tossing 15-25$ on a skin they will use for less than a year before they purchase another 60-70$ game to start over again. I should note that these same people always accused me and others of "cheating" whenever they got killed too much(happened often) and quit the lobby whenever they didn't get their preferred maps.
Well, they're still feeding the machine(and more than ever now since DMZ mode in MW5/2022 has started to drop Pay to Win microtransactions) for a false sense of satisfaction and superiority over others, and people like us get to keep their money and their dignity. I would say it's a win-win. Hopefully XDefiant won't bomb so that there is at least an alternative, even if it comes from Ubisoft(not any better than Acti-Blizzard)
I call CoD now "adult Fortnite." All these skins, characters, wacky weapon variants had made Call of Duty at odds with itself.
 
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