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Pretty baffling, really; as if we needed more proof that inter-locking three games with Warzone was a weird mess.
Actually, I asked this before, but; how is Vanguard these days?
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Pretty baffling, really; as if we needed more proof that inter-locking three games with Warzone was a weird mess.
Actually, I asked this before, but; how is Vanguard these days?
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Finally got the KV Broadside, and while I like it, I will not be surprised if it gets nerfed. It's range is fucking silly, even without a tons of attachments building for range.
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Go right ahead! I know the campaign is genuine shit, and Zombies was in pretty poor shape last I checked, but how is everything now? Is the game at least worth picking up for the Multiplayer? Has Zombies had any improvements? Or is the entire game just not worth getting at all?
Well, it's surprisingly still going. It doesn't have as much players as Warzone all things considered, but both are doing fine so far.
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So COD fags
I may want to get into COD campaigns
Is there any point in getting a new Modern Warfare or should I stick with the old Modern Warfare
I already know I'm interested in Black Ops (those that have Cold War settings), MAYBE World of War, and Infinite Warfare for sure
I may want to get into COD campaigns
Is there any point in getting a new Modern Warfare or should I stick with the old Modern Warfare
I already know I'm interested in Black Ops (those that have Cold War settings), MAYBE World of War, and Infinite Warfare for sure
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Mw2019 had a decent campaign, mw2022 failed to follow up on that. Instead of a fun rollercoaster, we got a couple of good levels and a dumb plot that involves characters holding the stupid orb so things wouldn't end instantly.
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Stick with the old Modern Warfare for campaigns.
It's really become an afterthought in the new ones. MW2019 is okay at best, but focuses on Farah the Arab Rebel way too much. MW2022 is tedious as fuck and doesn't make much sense while also not being a spectacle at all.
Modern Warfare 1-3, World at War and Black Ops 1-2 are where it's at. I never played Infinite Warfare but I've heard good things about its campaign.
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Infinite Warfare's story was fairly solid; main issue was that it was actually pretty damn short, didn't give the characters enough development. Still, it's WAY better than Vanguard's story; I'd recommend giving it a shot, overall. Also, it takes place in the same timeline as the original Modern Warfare games, surprisingly.
Multiplayer isn't the best these days, it's fairly similar to BO4 overall, but it works well enough. Fairly hit or miss; give it a shot, see how you like it.
Zombies is... okay? Story is cheesy as all hell, maps are fairly easy and a bit dull, but they play well overall. Except for the last one.
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1) Why isn't there a Vietnam War COD
2) Wouldn't a Vietnam War COD be the best COD
COD fans were real pissy about bOoTs On ThE gRoUnD, but the games are the equivalent of Hollywood action schlock. Why not make one in the most Hollywood action schlock setting? Literally Rambo. It seems so obvious to me.
2) Wouldn't a Vietnam War COD be the best COD
COD fans were real pissy about bOoTs On ThE gRoUnD, but the games are the equivalent of Hollywood action schlock. Why not make one in the most Hollywood action schlock setting? Literally Rambo. It seems so obvious to me.
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Black ops 1, 2 and Cold War's story fuck, all to varying degrees. Black ops 2 is still the king of replay value, and 1 is a sequel to world at war. The gunplay in these is great and the story does have some curveballs, and with 2 and cold war having choices in your story, it's got replay value. I say they're worth it.
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If I had to guess, it has something to do with the Department of Defense not approving the idea.
To do a proper Vietnam game would probably result in the military not being in a flattering light due to the nature and controversy of the conflict.
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One simple trick to make the enemy team angry.
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Yes. Activision has a working relationship with the military to get access to tactics/equipment to make a more realistic/authentic presentation and COD acts as one of, if not the, biggest recruiting tools.
IIRC, it's also been revealed that in the early 2010's one of their first proposals for one of their future warfare games was nixed by the DOD for featuring a war with China.
That's just the official stuff too, it's long been rumored that the DOD provides funding to Activision as well.
Edit: I feel like clarifying that I actually think the DOD wouldn't approve of anything that would be *good*. It's pretty much known at this point that Sledgehammer was working on a game that was "set" during Vietnam before it got repurposed into Black Ops Cold War, but the little bit of pre production shit that came out from it looks like it was just going to be extremely similar to Vanguard and not really portray the actual war.
I feel like with Vanguard and Warzone 2.0, we've seen that Activision (and the consumers) give less and less of a shit about a campaign being good or there even really being a coherent story behind their games at all. So we could very well see a Vietnam game on the horizon, it's just up until now I think anything decent was being held back by not portraying the US in a flattering light or someone who approves these things realized the shit was lame.
I'm honestly kind of surprised Black Ops Cold War got away with basically portraying MK Ultra, but I guess it's okay when it's done on a Russian terrorist and they don't mention how the specifics about it. *shrug*
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I think the reason why Vietnam isn't done is for two reasons: Asian market and lack of interest in the West. Battlefield Bad Company 2 had the Vietnam DLC/expansion at around the same time Black Ops 1 came out and I don't recall a lot of players and even I thought it was boring and stopped playing it after a month. I think Western gamers just don't care enough because its slipped out of memory with Iraq and Afghanistan happening in our lifetimes.
Concerning the Asian market, Asians are notoriously prickly about conflicts that happen in their countries. Creative Assembly had a Korean invasion DLC planned for Shogun 2: Total War but it when they realized it would create too much controversy. Black Ops 1 really missed out on the Vietnam missions and I think they were cut short for a reason.
The DoD doesn't view Vietnam as this giant war crime mess they want to bury. The official position has always been Vietnam was a failure due to politics and a lack of coherent strategy earlier in the War. The DoD will participate in media as long as it portrays the military in a positive manner for example the Vietnam film We Were Soldiers was allowed to be filmed on US military bases because it doesn't portray the US Military in a negative light and was faithful to events that occurred.
I think the reason why Vietnam isn't done is for two reasons: Asian market and lack of interest in the West. Battlefield Bad Company 2 had the Vietnam DLC/expansion at around the same time Black Ops 1 came out and I don't recall a lot of players and even I thought it was boring and stopped playing it after a month. I think Western gamers just don't care enough because its slipped out of memory with Iraq and Afghanistan happening in our lifetimes.
Concerning the Asian market, Asians are notoriously prickly about conflicts that happen in their countries. Creative Assembly had a Korean invasion DLC planned for Shogun 2: Total War but it when they realized it would create too much controversy. Black Ops 1 really missed out on the Vietnam missions and I think they were cut short for a reason.
The DoD doesn't view Vietnam as this giant war crime mess they want to bury. The official position has always been Vietnam was a failure due to politics and a lack of coherent strategy earlier in the War. The DoD will participate in media as long as it portrays the military in a positive manner for example the Vietnam film We Were Soldiers was allowed to be filmed on US military bases because it doesn't portray the US Military in a negative light and was faithful to events that occurred.
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It's hard to blame anyone for not really wanting to make a Vietnam game if that were the case though. Not only did the US lose but it was also really boring and miserable. Building a game out of either World War (and korea) works because there are changing fronts and dramatic setpiece battles but the definitive Vietnam experience is overcalculated glowops and shitty jungle patrols with the occasional pointless meatgrinder.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying though.
Anything that would actually be cool or even semi-authentic would probably be looked at unfavorably by them. Anything else would probably end up being boring or ridiculed.
...at least, back in the day. I believe now the larger gaming community is retarded enough to not give a fuck. If anything it is more of what you said at this point, modern gamers need "modern" games or else they find them boring or unappealing, at least for online play.
I really think Vanguards biggest issue was't how fucking gay it was, it was simply that it was a WWII game and the young retarded Warzone playerbase didn't want that.
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How could a Vietnam game be disapproved when they have stories of four star generals going rogue with a private army massacring innocents? I think the latter is worse than the former since it does suggest the chain of command is corrupt.
I’m doubting the DOD even has a hand in COD beyond some retirees providing input. The modelers model everything off of air soft equipment, the audio guys go to Battlefield Vegas for the weapon noises, and the writers just make up bullshit.
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Well that’s really frustrating because I was thinking the imjin war would have been better material than Rise if the Samurai.