Canada is a failed state

[Raoul_Duke]

For everyone wondering why Doug Ford gets by, it's because he's controllable opposition. I mean, seriously.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

For everyone wondering why Doug Ford gets by, it's because he's controllable opposition. I mean, seriously.

A puppet for the construction companies and developers.

But the most laughable thing for me to read on social media is that Ontario has a ''Left''



I've lived in this province my entire life and I have never met a person (in real life) who was left of center. Most people here are centrist to center right.

You'll see this shit on back of every bus in small town Ontario that has transit




The low wage chart in Ontario



Keep in mind when it started to get closer to ''10 bucks'' every media publication was going out of their minds and employers were raging.

 

[Never Scored]

I don't have to live with Ford's policies because I don't live in Ontario. However, I have to say I really enjoyed the bounty of salt provided by his victory in 2018.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

A puppet for the construction companies and developers.

But the most laughable thing for me to read on social media is that Ontario has a ''Left''

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I've lived in this province my entire life and I have never met a person (in real life) who was left of center. Most people here are centrist to center right.

You'll see this shit on back of every bus in small town Ontario that has transit

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The low wage chart in Ontario

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Keep in mind when it started to get closer to ''10 bucks'' every media publication was going out of their minds and employers were raging.

There's 100% a left in Ontario.

Yeah, you may see the occasional abortion ad on a bus, but saying that this is indicative of the province as a whole is misrepresentative. I think that almost every medium sized town and above in Ontario has one of these, and we were just talking about the changing of rural cultures, bourgie people, yuppies, and people moving to rural areas a few posts ago

There are legitimate racial grifters here as well, pride kicking cops out, BLM protestors, etc.

If by "Ontario has no left" you mean it has no strong union presence, that may be legitimate. But the cultural leftism, or progressivism or what have you- its definitely in the province and a strong political force.

Ontario isn't an NDP dominated province, but thats less indicative of there not being "socialist" types, and more indicative that those types just vote liberal and back Trudeau within the province. Not that it makes much difference anyways, with both of them in a race to champion the same issues first and forming a coalition.

Not going to play "no true leftist" or "the liberals are centrist or center-left". They are, but similar comparisons could be made to the NDP which abandoned labour issues for culture war ones, its also relative to other nations (compared to the US, Canadian conservatives are ironically more centrist or center-left, compared to Europe, the liberals are more center-right, NDP more center, etc)

But if we're not talking economics, and going off of culture war issues like abortion ads, which aren't that common and kind of loony, versus gay pride parades- Ontario is pretty saturated there.

The problem with leftism in Canada, and Ontario in particular, is that its toothless. They dont care about labour issues. Its like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in the US with "first black transgender gay lesbian head of government" while their economy is burning down and they reneged on forgiving student debt or federal minimum wages. There's definitely cultural leftists in Ontario.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Ontario has very little economic left is what I meant to say. The openly LGBT, supportive of abortion and BLM etc. types are mainly in Toronto. Also they're mostly Gen Z - the more vocal of them.

Outside of Toronto people are very church-y and resistant to radical change of any kind.

 

[Ndnd]

Ontario has very little economic left is what I meant to say. The openly LGBT, supportive of abortion and BLM etc. types are mainly in Toronto. Also they're mostly Gen Z - the more vocal of them.

Outside of Toronto people are very church-y and resistant to radical change of any kind.

that shit is getting harder to avoid in small town Ontario though. Shitloads of former Torontonians are flocking to my small town and bringing their progressive nonsense with them. The local churches are flying rainbow flags at the moment, and drag queen story time at the local library has been a thing for the past couple of years. And it doesn’t help that the sex ed curriculum taught in schools is the same province-wide.

 

[Queenfaggo]

Well, Fattie Ford wins with another majority. He was the best of the big 3. At least all the Del Duca bros on reddit are seething.

 

[jje100010001]

Well, Fattie Ford wins with another majority. He was the best of the big 3. At least all the Del Duca bros on reddit are seething.

Where's my salt mining from the NDP and Liberals? And all those posts where they shed their kumbaya personas and wish death onto those who don't think the right way?

Personally I think that the PCs deserved to lose seats for their pandemic handling and kowtowing to lockdowns and mandates (and for essentially being progressives driving at the speed limit), but I also felt that the Liberals did not deserve to return to government because they did not clean house completely from the McGuinty-Wynne years- Del Duca was a core member of their gang (and that man has never known work outside government).

The NDP and Greens also have some fairly stupid current year cultural revolution policies and thus also did not deserve any increase in their power either. Finally, the two outsider new-conservative parties of course fizzled out due to name recognition- proving yet again that to actually effect change, you need to subvert/take a party over and utilize its existing party infrastructure and momentum to change course.

 

[Kiwisee]

I’m glad that Commie cunt from the Ontario NDP resigned.

I had a feeling that Ford was going to win, just because of local unions shilling for him over the NDP which is a first

 

[Sweetpeaa]

I’m glad that Commie cunt from the Ontario NDP resigned.

I had a feeling that Ford was going to win, just because of local unions shilling for him over the NDP which is a first

lol at ''Commie''. Look what a carrot-on-a-stick-trick the NDP did out west in BC as they told everyone they would get dental benefits and all kinds of other things and guess what? as soon as they got in they did none of that and instead cut services. Ontario NDP would have done the same thing.

Ontario has no leftist party. Even the infamous NDP former Premier Bob Rae had the idea of ''workfare'' and drug testing for those on the dole in his party policy before Mike Harris implemented it. They're all Neolibs. Horwath used to be more upfront about her neoliberal stance but had to appear much more wokey in recent times to appeal to a different generation.

Reno-victions (for example) are running rampant in her city of Hamilton in recent times. Yet she did nothing to stop them as NDP leader. That should give you a clue.

Edit: And in terms of Doug Ford winning.. again. I think Ontario still has a desire for a Trump of their own. Ontario has a sizeable right wing faction who was wanting to be apart of the Trump culture in the states. That was part of why Doug Ford won. It was the ''Trump'' momentum. But a Premier can not do what a Prime Minister or President can. Some of these guys thought ''Dougie'' could block immigrants from coming into the country like Trump did as President. But a Premier can't do that lol.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

Maan, I wish Doug Ford was really as far right as all his opponents claim he is. Then maybe he'd put an end to giving children HRT and mutilating surgeries, and do something ahout the groomers and pedos in academia and healthcare

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Ontario has no leftist party. Even the infamous NDP former Premier Bob Rae had the idea of ''workfare'' and drug testing for those on the dole in his party policy before Mike Harris implemented it. They're all Neolibs. Horwath used to be more upfront about her neoliberal stance but had to appear much more wokey in recent times to appeal to a different generation.

I guess these leftist partys are "leftists in name only"?

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Edit: And in terms of Doug Ford winning.. again. I think Ontario still has a desire for a Trump of their own. Ontario has a sizeable right wing faction who was wanting to be apart of the Trump culture in the states. That was part of why Doug Ford won. It was the ''Trump'' momentum. But a Premier can not do what a Prime Minister or President can. Some of these guys thought ''Dougie'' could block immigrants from coming into the country like Trump did as President. But a Premier can't do that lol.

They might have one in Pierre Poliviere as he's been traveling across the country campaigning and effectively holding rallies. Unlike the other candidates (especially Charest AKA the establishment pick), his supporters are enthusiastic and his social media game is on point.

 

[OutInTheRain]

I really hate Ford, wrong brother died.
But with Ontario you don't have a choice. It's retards with the NDP, or corrupt retards with the Liberals. What I really wish with the Cons is that they would realize, that all over the country their provincial gains are because people by and large hate the federal Liberals. Maybe they could...I dunno actually oppose them for once.

 

[Ser Prize]

I guess these leftist partys are "leftists in name only"?

Sweatpea is an unabashed commie. Anything to the left of marx is "leftist in name only" to him.

 

[Proserpina]

They might have one in Pierre Poliviere as he's been traveling across the country campaigning and effectively holding rallies. Unlike the other candidates (especially Charest AKA the establishment pick), his supporters are enthusiastic and his social media game is on point.

I doubt it because while he's good at attacking Trudeau, he fails everywhere else. Voters on the right care about globalism, mass immigration, medical tyranny, and woke bullshit. He's a globalist and will not touch unpopular issues like banning medical experimentation on children. Small PP is controlled opposition and Charest is just a decoy to make him appear trustworthy.

Our real populist leader is Maxime Bernier. He actually has some integrity because he keeps his positions no matter how unpopular they are. He's the only one who was critical of health measures and got arrested for attending an anti-mandate rally. That doesn't just win votes, it wins loyalty. That's what makes Trump unbeatable. PP is pure establishment and will never dethrone Mad Max as Canada's Trump because neoliberals don't know what "can't be bought" means.

The media just makes a big deal out of PP using "Trumpist", or whatever the fuck they call it, populist tactics to scare the retarded shitlibs. This country's government is a single party of crooks that have been stealing our money for at least 10 years, and they make it pathetically obvious that PP is anointed to become the next Crime Minister. Of course, this is all completely irrelevant because the country isn't making it to 2025.

 

[jje100010001]

I doubt it because while he's good at attacking Trudeau, he fails everywhere else. Voters on the right care about globalism, mass immigration, medical tyranny, and woke bullshit. He's a globalist and will not touch unpopular issues like banning medical experimentation on children. Small PP is controlled opposition and Charest is just a decoy to make him appear trustworthy.

Our real populist leader is Maxime Bernier. He actually has some integrity because he keeps his positions no matter how unpopular they are. He's the only one who was critical of health measures and got arrested for attending an anti-mandate rally. That doesn't just win votes, it wins loyalty. That's what makes Trump unbeatable. PP is pure establishment and will never dethrone Mad Max as Canada's Trump because neoliberals don't know what "can't be bought" means.

The media just makes a big deal out of PP using "Trumpist", or whatever the fuck they call it, populist tactics to scare the retarded shitlibs. This country's government is a single party of crooks that have been stealing our money for at least 10 years, and they make it pathetically obvious that PP is anointed to become the next Crime Minister. Of course, this is all completely irrelevant because the country isn't making it to 2025.

The issue with Bernier is that he tried to make a go at as an independent and then as the sole MP of a new party, which no longer works these days- these new parties often lack the infrastructure of the established parties, and are exposed easy pickings for MSM. No surprise here that the same happened to the New Blue Party as well.

IMO, Bernier should have stayed in the Conservative party, built up a faction of Bernierists, and then taken a second stab at the leadership convention after the next election.

 

[Proserpina]

It's not about who's better between Bernier or PP. It's about who can actually beat Trudeau in a federal election and stop that psycho from ruining Canada - and that is PP because he'll have the backing of the large tory establishment. I voted for Bernier in the last election but I will be voting for PP in the next. It is beyond essential to remove Trudeau from office. Him being PM is a danger to the country because every day he's in power there's a risk he shits up something new.

Could not disagree more. PP and Trudeau are the left and right arms of the same Neoliberal party, and they'll probably replace Trudeau with someone like Freeland. NDP and Green are also the Neoliberals. The only party that can beat them is PPC, because they are the only other party.

 

[Ser Prize]

The issue with Bernier is that he tried to make a go at as an independent and then as the sole MP of a new party, which no longer works these days- these new parties often lack the infrastructure of the established parties, and are exposed easy pickings for MSM. No surprise here that the same happened to the New Blue Party as well.

IMO, Bernier should have stayed in the Conservative party, built up a faction of Bernierists, and then taken a second stab at the leadership convention after the next election.

There's no saving the PC party. Bernier made the right call with PPC and I expect it to keep growing.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

A lot of French Canadians are protectionist. Quebec is heavily anti immigrant and fierce at preserving their culture. Bernier's stance doesn't surprise me towards globalization for this reason Not only does it lower wages (what's already been discussed) but it's an absolute cultural attack on communities.