Canada is a failed state

[Ser Prize]

Probably. Quebec has always wanted it both ways and made the wording of the referendum question convoluted to make it sound like they wanted independence, but wanted the perks of being part of Canada.

That's why you're morally obligated to mock Quebec separatists.

 

[Lord Xenu]

A significant part of our nation's history has been made, simply by using the word "wacko".

What an embarrassing bunch of faggots out there in Ottawa. Other countries have fist fights in parliament. These clowns are all losing their composure over a playground insult and its national news for a week. Its a sad state of affairs, at least if they are throwing fists we would know they actually care about something. Weak, weak shit.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Trudeau has eliminated everyone in the party who has any power to check him. It's not like with Chretien where Martin was around to curb some impulses, or a cabinet with multiple members who have high profiles. It's kind of wild how weak the Liberal's are. They have no one waiting in the wings, no high profile members who can take over as leader after Trudeau is gone.

I think after the next defeat the Liberal's might be in the political wilderness for a good long time. Hopefully forever.

Freeland and the environmental nut job Guilbreat will take over.

Also the foreign minister Melanie Jolie is hot but retarded. Hopefully she becomes the new Mama JF.

 

[y a t s]

What an embarrassing bunch of faggots out there in Ottawa. Other countries have fist fights in parliament. These clowns are all losing their composure over a playground insult and its national news for a week. Its a sad state of affairs, at least if they are throwing fists we would know they actually care about something. Weak, weak shit.

I always loved how chaotic the parliaments of other countries can get, given how ours have always been mind-numbingly boring theatre productions. Even if the faggots are just fighting about who gets a bigger yacht, I wanna be able to tune in and see someone get hit with a fucking chair.

In all seriousness, I believe we shouldn't push our beliefs on others without being willing to fight for them or pay a significant price in some way (i.e. not going and sitting in the time out corner like a 2 year old). It's clear most politicians in our nation's history haven't had to fight for much, and they know it.

I found this video suggested after the South Africa one, and it is very entertaining how petty they get:

 

[Lord Xenu]

I found this video suggested after the South Africa one, and it is very entertaining how petty they get:

They might not get anything done, but it least its hilarious. That's miles better than our parliament, where they get nothing done AND IT'S DEATHLY BORING.
TBH the end results are exactly the same. Two parties telling each other that they are the real racist for 6 hours, while conditions deteriorate for everyone outside the parliament. Canada: South Africa, with snow.

 

[Gatdam Animal Person]

Probably. Quebec has always wanted it both ways and made the wording of the referendum question convoluted to make it sound like they wanted independence, but wanted the perks of being part of Canada.

That's why you're morally obligated to mock Quebec separatists.

Knowing that a third referendum might not even succeed, Quebec's plan for independence is to slowly gain more and more autonomy by transferring some federal responsibilities to the provincial government. They want to become independent in all but in name.
Our current government is mostly right-wing (Coalition Avenir Québec) and the older generations seems to love them. They're fine and they're WAY better than Québec Solidaire (which are a bunch of far-left socialists). Younger people seems to like both QS and the NDP.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

If I were a betting man, I would wager that many of the government programs serve a secondary purpose as landmines for his successor who is likely going to be Pierre Poilievre. Narcissists are a vindictive lot. He is counting that any potential cuts would see voters throw the Conservatives out of power and see Liberals reinstated. Should that not come to pass, then he would rather see the country torn asunder than see his hated opposition in power. However, the funny part about this is that he is the chief reason why the Liberals are in such a bad state. Canadians hate him more than they love Poilievre. The Liberals would be in a better position if he were to do the sensible thing and resign; the Conservatives would likely win a minority, but they are looking at a potential supermajority because Trudeau refuses to give up power.

This isn't that conspiratorial, honestly.

Its fairly common to see people poisoning the well at a local level and people looking at who takes control of the poisoned well and blaming them (not the person who poisoned the well in the first place),

its just rare to see this so blatantly at a national level, I hope people acknowledge who poisoned the well (Trudeau, but really his liberal handlers), and I know they will forget it.

It also doesn't help that the conservatives are the same as the liberals though, tell me how the Ford government functions differently from the federal government except for a few superficial things, for example. Uniparty, to be frank.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Policy: Send all third-worlders to die of exposure in the Arctic

When Yellowknife caught fire last summer and was being evacuated, the stock photos of people lining up for rescue weren't the Inuit, but endless lines of joggers.

They are already up there.

I know that you guys are blaming Trudeau for this, but it seems like even the "conservatives" are going to be of much help either.

After Michael Ignatieff lost to Harper in the early 2010s and before Trudeau took over, the mainstream narrative at the time was that the Liberals would be in the wilderness forever because the Conservatives were dominating them by pandering to the ethnic vote.

It's hard to imagine now, but Jason Kenney was Stephen Harper's panderer-in-chief during that era, playing dressup with all the third worlders.

I'm sure there are a whole trove of embarrassing photos of Kenney from a decade plus ago looking just like Poilievre is now.

Mad Max couldn’t even win a seat in Manitoba, where he was running himself. If the single most well known name in the party couldn’t crack a seat, I’m skeptical on them managing to win multiple seat

The PPC haven't registered at all in the national polls over the last two years despite conditions wrt to housing, inflation, immigration, taxation, alphabet people BS ramping up so heavily.

Bernier's 2023 by-election performance actually dropped 7 points compared to some rando Mennonite candidate in Portage-Lisgar in 2021. This really suggests that they caught lightning in a bottle in 2021 between COVID tyranny discontent and a cucked and boring Conservative leader in O'Toole at the time.

A big problem the PPC has is that their support in general is greatest in ridings already dominated by the Conservatives historically. But they simply aren't eroding enough of that right-wing normie base. They are easily getting dominated 10:1 in the few areas where they have any base.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

After Michael Ignatieff lost to Harper in the early 2010s and before Trudeau took over, the mainstream narrative at the time was that the Liberals would be in the wilderness forever because the Conservatives were dominating them by pandering to the ethnic vote.

While the Chinese are problematic for various reasons, and while the Sikhs wern't as populous here (and I will say that there are probably more liberal and NDP Sikh youth now than there are conservatives)

Conservative East Asians, which seemed to be many, were pretty chill. Someone said this earlier, but things are pretty bad when even the Chinese are leaving. As least the Koreans and Japanese Canadians expect a certain level of order or politeness that actually is congruent with Western culture, and understand not to poison the well even when some of the older ones used to get into lefty politics.

God help the next generation though, theyre the same as Canadian liberals.

But they simply aren't eroding enough of that right-wing normie base.

The conservatives are not an alternate to the liberals. They are the liberals in slow motion.
The problem is that:

a) First the PPC has to prove it can actually win, or gain a significant minority of the vote (if theres one thing people hate, its throwing away their vote and just empowering the liberals further)

and b) theres the question of, can they actually govern? How will they govern? Is a lot of what theyre just saying talk?

I'm actually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on B) because I just dont care, see the conservatives as being basically the same as the liberals,

but the same way people don't vote libertarian in the US because it just splits the vote and gets someone like Clinton in power, thats why Id be wary of voting for the PPC.

Imagine that you do, and next election its Trudeau again? I get it, the next argument is "well if everyone voted with their heart, we'd overtake the PC and become the new an true conservative party". It rarely works that way. The US reform party in the 90s basically was what won the election for Clinton, for example.

This is by design as well, in the first past the post system. Maybe electoral change is the only way to solve this, something Trudeau ironically promised. In Europe, you do have a rise of the far right because you can vote with your heart, and if the PPC gains 10%, PC gains 40% and the liberals gain 40%, you still win and you dont have to worry about this trap. And then you snowball from there. Over here though, whoever wins basically takes it all.

So do Canadians try to retake and change the conservative party into an actual conservative party once more?
Do we campaign for electoral reform?
Do we start a new third party?

The answer is all three and none of the above.

As Reagan said, you become an adult when you stop relying on the government to solve your own problems. IMO, the best thing to do is to try and get on with your life, and insulate yourself as far away from government as possible. Theres more important things in life to focus on. Sucks that Canada is making that more and more difficult, however. If you have to choose politics vs personal business though, always go the business route.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Conservative supporters just feel as brain dead as any liberal supporter in my opinion. Having to rely on the government to solve their problems is just sheer infantile behavior. There is so many of them who could've just ditched voting altogether and live off the grid away from any government. I know it isn't easy but it's still worth a try regardless.

 

[Ser Prize]

@DiscoRodeo
In the true Canadian Way we've imported the worst aspects of both the two party system and the multiple party system. Truly Canadian ingenuity at work.

 

[wry wrangler]

Bernier's 2023 by-election performance actually dropped 7 points compared to some rando Mennonite candidate in Portage-Lisgar in 2021. This really suggests that they caught lightning in a bottle in 2021 between COVID tyranny discontent and a cucked and boring Conservative leader in O'Toole at the time.

The 'rando Mennonite' was actually rather well-known locally. The PPC should've nominated him again.

 

[Hot Potato]

This thread has given me a glimmer of hope that our country hasn't completely fallen to trannies and invading "immigrants"

While I don't think the conservatives are going to be a fix all for the numerous problems plaguing our country, some others have said it best that at this point, anyone else is better than Halloween Nigger. I am going to vote for the conservatives in the next election, knowing they will probably keep the carbon tax around, not improve hospitals at all, let fuck tons of niggers in, but at the very least we won't see any more draconian commie laws, they will stop the bleeding.

Last election, Fords goals for the term were "do the same shit I've been doing", where the libs had a bucket list of garbage they wanted to destroy the province with. PP could literally just have the campaign slogan "I will not fuck up any more shit" and he'd probably win the next two elections. Even still the conservatives will probably get in, make all the budget cuts we need, but "forget" to repeal all those carbon tax's so they can pocket all that money.

For me in particular, gun rights has become a big issue though. The Lib's have stripped away so many rights we use to have when it comes to firearms ownership just in the last 3 years. In some ways we are the worst of the 3 commonwealth cucks when it comes to gun rights. Impossible to buy a pistol since fall of 2022 (which you were only able to shoot at a government approved range to begin with),.AR-15's, which were already insanely restricted, are completly prohibited, along with numerous other rifles that were regularly used for sporting completions up to the Olympic level. They only did the ban because of that shooting a few years back on the east coast in which the dude used an ILLEGALLY SMUGGLED U.S. AR-15 to kill a bunch of people thanks to the RCMP's complete fucking incompetence in telling fucking no one what the shooter looked like and letting him drive around for hours killing people. Libs plan to buy back (confiscate) all the prohibited guns, but it will likely cost over a billion by the end of the day (Because even though the libs hate to admit it, Canadians are armed to the tits outside of liberal shitholes like Toronto and Ottawa, and even fucking immigrants are thinking about getting guns to protect their homes because crime has gotten so bad, even though we have zero laws to protect ourselves from getting charged for murder for shooting a home invader).


One thing that really stuck out to me was when my dad and I were driving across Ontario a few years ago. Stopped in a Tim Horton's to take a piss in like Cochrane or some shit in northern Ontario, and every single person working there was a nigger that knew nothing but French. I didn't even realize until that moment that they bring these people in and send them shitholes that no one wants to live in to do work that no one wants to do. This country is a fucking charity that caters to niggers in Swaziland that cant tie their fucking shoes. What the fuck happened to bringing the best and the brightest?

One of my closets friends since I was about 8 is Muslim, he moved from Africa a year before I met him with his parents. They have started multiple successful business', and much more, no doubt prospering in their own right and benefiting the country as a whole in the way we hope immigrants would. These types of immigrants are one in a million these days though. For every productive member of society brought into this country, we get 40 Chinese students buying properties in the metro's for their parents, 200 savages hopping across the border, and 1000 Indian students studying fake university degrees to steal jobs from Canadians.

Trudeau has to fucking go. If we let that fucking Halloween Nigger win another election, he's gonna get so fucking full of himself, next trucker protest won't be so nice, he's just round them all up and send them to a fucking work camp, and most Canadians will applaud because "protesters truck horn to loud". This country is dying, and most Canadians don't give a flying fuck, that's makes me worry more than all our politicians.

Yes, I've been drinking.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

It's fucked enough that immigrants are savages. But they all come from India and niggerland.

At least 40-50% are constituted by less than desirable immigrants like sandniggers who steal cars to ship back to Dubai.

Or three of the conspirators who killed a pajeet as part of assassination mission from India came to this country as ...DRUMROLL....international students.

L.o.l.

 

[Brutality]

"Diversity is our strength" lmao

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

"Diversity is our strength" lmao

That axiom is indeed laughable because diverse nations/empires require a strong central authority to remain a cohesive entity. Russia had the absolutism of the tsars and totalitarianism of the Communist Party under the USSR before it fragmented. Yugoslavia began its collapse with the death of Tito. Many of the civil wars in Africa are the result of arbitrary borders created by the colonial powers who failed to account for the tribalism endemic to the continent.

There's no doubt that Trudeau is looking to concentrate more power in the Prime Minister's office, but he is also attempting to placate the demands of disparate minorities. As such you see that his government has different standards for different groups based on IDPol, which is to say that there are no standards. The big problem is that when you try to please everyone, you end of pleasing no one and the country will grow more dysfunctional. Most of these immigrants are here to extract from the ailing welfare state and nothing else because there is no true Canadian identity to cling to or aspire for.

 

[Sneedenhagen Chew]

Since that RCMP informant shooter was brought up on this page (can't quote @Hot Potato since the post was too long), quick reminder that shortly before the shooting he walked into a Brink's office and asked them for $475,000 in cash and they just gave it to him, something they'll only do for bank managers and cops.

Maclean's Article | Archive

 

[Lord Xenu]

A few weeks ago I was in the city and went to a drive-thru ScotiaBank ATM. They were playing ads on it before you put your card in and the advertisement was targeting "Newcomers" to Canada for a 0% line of credit for $15,000 with instant approval. I wish I sat there and waited to grab a picture but there were a bunch of cars behind us.

Edit: I think it may have been part of this "Start Right" program. I was trying to find the rates & terms because I thought I may have read it wrong, but I don't see any information related specifically to a LOC online. I noticed that a few pages relating to the program are search indexed but not available (or archived).

Also in government mandated "Newcomer" amenities:

According to a post from the Government of Canada, all ‘newcomers’ and new citizens who use the government’s Canoo app will “enjoy free admission to all places administered by Parks Canada across the country for one full year.”

This includes all national parks, historic sites, and marine conservation areas operated by Parks Canada, which constitutes 38 national parks, 10 national park reserves, and 1 urban national park; the 171 national historic sites administered by Parks Canada; and 5 national marine conservation areas.

But only if you’re a recent immigrant.

Canadians, on the other hand, will have to pay a fee of over $30 per adult or over $80 per family group for most single-location passes.

Source: The CounterSignal (A)

Screenshot of the above linked Government of Canada (A) page:

It's now official, welcome to second-class citizenry.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

That's okay. New comers will shit up the place now that it's free. It's best not to go.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

pffft as if the national parks aren't already filled to the brink with Chink tourists

Try getting into Banff, I dare you. It's wall to wall Chink, you can't even hear a word of English being spoken it's all bang yang chicka yong.