Americans can come to Canada if they want (assuming youre American),
like the main thing from this thread is that, as Sweetpeaa is pointing out, if Americas middle class is shrinking, Canada's has basically committed suicide and is barely on life support as it is.
If your friends are techies, rich, or some other type of urban yuppie parasite, its a fair enough deal coming to Canada and none of this stuff is really going to affect them.
Most people aren't that though.
If you don't want to sell Canada to them, point out that even if they are rich
a) they will get taxed the fuck out of
b) globohomo is on full swing in Canada, your child will cut off their dick if they identify as trans and theres nothing you can do
c) your taxes aren't going to be going to fixing infastructure problems in your city and will probably get sent off to some corruption scam every few years
d) many of Canada's companies (like in telecommunications) are monopolistic and so have much higher prices than the US (ie, phone bills)
e) Culturally, Canada just ain't it. Its lost its own independent identity, and a lot of what we have now is just ultra shallow. Used to love Toronto's music scene in the 2000s, but now I can't stand the bourgie drake and weekend swaggots that seem to swamp that city. It might be how someone who used to live in LA feels about how their own cultural scene shifted from late 90s/early 2000s street racing culture to whatever instagram schlick we have today. Anything you can get in Toronto (or Vancouver for that matter) you can get in a similar sized American city, for cheaper and with more cultural interest.
ie, when people ask me why I have less interest in the "cultural" scene in many urban cities, in part its because a lot of urban life has shifted from something GTA like, to whatever amorphous thing we have today
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Toronto has its own variation of this, that just feels equally soulless in its own way. Basketball Canadians
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Its not even that basketball Canadians are all that bad, theyre tolerable, but if I wanted that, Atlanta is a much, much better city that actually does seem to have its own cultural authenticity; I just can't help but find the current Canadian trend of attempting to inorganically imitate that as being very artificial and un self aware. Canada's new black culture in Toronto seems forced and almost as a form of cope by immigrants desperate to latch on to a form of new identity in this nation. Something seemingly created over night, rather than a project decades (if not longer) in the making, that just takes from already existing cultures down south to try and repackage up North.
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There's just something pretentious about Canadas imitation of black culture, that I can't quite place, but do feel lacks a plethora of the nuance of what actually inspired it. It might be that the central lynchpin of basketball Canadian culture also happens to be an industry plant who was previously on Degrassi. There's a rap group called Dead Prez in the US that coined "Revolutonary, but Gangsta". If anything, Basketball Canadian culture is "rich and yuppie, but
wannabe gangsta"
f) Healthcare is "socialized" but even before covid I found that there were longer wait times than the US, and honestly, having lived in the US, Ive never had a problem with insurance. Sure, if you work at McDonalds and have to pay for your own insurance out of pocket, thats an extra expense, but health insurance in the US is not
that expensive. Unless you have some sort of pre-existing condition, youll be fine, and even then, thank Obama if you want for ensuring that insurance companies have to take you on regardless. The point here is that if your friends have enough money to up and move to Canada, they easily have enough money to afford decent (not just basic but
decent) health insurance in the US. And if they don't have money for basic health insurance in the US, just a reminder that Canada's middle class is much worse off than the US's, so they'd literally be moving somewhere to be poorer.
Id advise someone to literally pick a blue state to move to (if that was what they were looking for) over Canada, or somewhere red is my personal preference at this point.
