Canada is a failed state

[wry wrangler]

That's the thing: they won't do that. PP has been sucking pajeet cock for the last year and a half. He knows the only way to keep this ponzi scheme of a country running is to keep mass importing jeets for cheap labour and market inflation.

If that's what he thinks, he's wrong. It doesn't matter whether the federal government keeps on mass importing Indian slave laborers; total economic collapse is inevitable but for immediate, radical action (e.g. mass deportations).

 

[Ser Prize]

If that's what he thinks, he's wrong. It doesn't matter whether the federal government keeps on mass importing Indian slave laborers; total economic collapse is inevitable but for immediate, radical action (e.g. mass deportations).

Of course he's wrong. But what does it matter to him? He's not unlike Trudeau in that after he mass imports millions of new voters he can either ride it out for ten years or more or just go home to what is no doubt a cozy little gated community.

 

[Lupin The Turd]

I don't personally agree with the idea that mass immigration is a means to obtain more of a voterbase, given the process of attaining full voting citizenship is long and a good percentage of them probably won't bother anyways even with all the gibs. What is however guaranteed is them paying taxes through income and sales tax.

 

[Betonhaus]

I don't personally agree with the idea that mass immigration is a means to obtain more of a voterbase, given the process of attaining full voting citizenship is long and a good percentage of them probably won't bother anyways even with all the gibs. What is however guaranteed is them paying taxes through income and sales tax.

They'd be paid pennies on the dollar so income tax will be a very thin trickle, and they can't afford to spend a lot of money on taxable goods.

A far batter investment would be to raise the quality of life for the existing lower class so they can splurge on extras.

 

[Lupin The Turd]

They'd be paid pennies on the dollar so income tax will be a very thin trickle, and they can't afford to spend a lot of money on taxable goods.

A far batter investment would be to raise the income of the existing lower class so they can splurge on extras.

I don't believe that, I'm certain they're getting paid the same minimum wage at any Tim Hortons or Walmart they flood. Gig economy workers however are definitely getting the lowest.

 

[Betonhaus]

I don't believe that, I'm certain they're getting paid the same minimum wage at any Tim Hortons or Walmart they flood. Gig economy workers however are definitely getting the lowest.

although I'm sure that there's some accounting tricks that get them below minimum wage, if most of your workforce is at minimum wage and unable to afford good food and housing then they won't be effective taxpayers.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I don't personally agree with the idea that mass immigration is a means to obtain more of a voterbase, given the process of attaining full voting citizenship is long and a good percentage of them probably won't bother anyways even with all the gibs. What is however guaranteed is them paying taxes through income and sales tax.

It’s about getting them sign up for financial products and keep the dividends going to Boomers and kike shareholders at the Big 5 Banks

 

[Ser Prize]

I don't personally agree with the idea that mass immigration is a means to obtain more of a voterbase, given the process of attaining full voting citizenship is long and a good percentage of them probably won't bother anyways even with all the gibs. What is however guaranteed is them paying taxes through income and sales tax.

I mean yeah, but they're taking up Canadian jobs and then sending most of that untaxed money back to India. So it's not like they're a reliable economic factor beyond cratering wages.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

although I'm sure that there's some accounting tricks that get them below minimum wage, if most of your workforce is at minimum wage and unable to afford good food and housing then they won't be effective taxpayers.

Theyre minimum wage, unless theyre getting money under the table, which they arent (unless theyre gig workers)

Its less about them taking less of a salary, and more that they are willing to take zero hour contracts, 24/7 shift availability with one days notice, etc.

Imagine this. You take a job at timmies. You do not have a set schedule, it changes every week. Tomorrow, you may have an overnight shift or you may not, you don't know, noone knows, maybe your manager does, but its actually set from above by some robot.

Even when I was 16 and had my first McJob at dominos, we didnt have conditions like this.

But, those are the working conditions that theyre willing to take on.

Its not a way to lower salaries, insomuch as its a way to erode and chip at labour conditions and rights. Also notice that the rise in not actually getting hired by companies, but contract jobs with zero job protection, furlough, benefits, etc also coincides with this.

 

[Sqwe-wi_Farmer]

I don't personally agree with the idea that mass immigration is a means to obtain more of a voterbase, given the process of attaining full voting citizenship is long and a good percentage of them probably won't bother anyways even with all the gibs. What is however guaranteed is them paying taxes through income and sales tax.

Dude as long as you're in canada on a visa YOU CAN VOTE. IF YOU PAY TAXES YOU CAN VOTE. LOOK IT UP. INTERNATIONAL CHINESE STUDENTS VOTE IVE SEEN IT HAPPEN.

Just not federal elections

 

[wry wrangler]

I don't personally agree with the idea that mass immigration is a means to obtain more of a voterbase, given the process of attaining full voting citizenship is long and a good percentage of them probably won't bother anyways even with all the gibs. What is however guaranteed is them paying taxes through income and sales tax.

...And then they consume more in government services than they pay in taxes, thus rendering them a net drain on society.

 

[geckogoy]

I don't believe that, I'm certain they're getting paid the same minimum wage at any Tim Hortons or Walmart they flood. Gig economy workers however are definitely getting the lowest.

Your country is being destroyed by jewish globalists because they hate white people, hope this helps you figure out how this benefits them

 

[Never Scored]

I don't personally agree with the idea that mass immigration is a means to obtain more of a voterbase, given the process of attaining full voting citizenship is long and a good percentage of them probably won't bother anyways even with all the gibs. What is however guaranteed is them paying taxes through income and sales tax.

IMO It's

1) Wage suppression because both the major parties are in big corporates' back pocket.

2) Props up boomers' wealth be elevating house prices, keeping the CHIP reverse mortgage money going and keeping them happy.

3) Suppressing wages and creating more customers for stuff like cell phones and grocery stores creates increased GDP on paper. The biggest factor in determining how much a country can borrow is its Debt-to-GDP ratio, so increasing the GDP in this way allows the government to keep borrowing, even if the GDP per captia is on the decline.

4) Schools are addicted to International Student money to subsidize their ever increasing administrative bloat, and the government does not want the post secondary system to collapse.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

I've had these thoughts on Trudeau's post-national state after reading an Op-Ed regarding the Parti Quebecois' promise to hold another referendum on independence. In it the author described the Canadian post-national state as bland and soulless, which I attribute to its artificiality. Think of it as similar to the World Showcase at Disney World's EPCOT. It serves as a showcase of all the myriad cultures the government imported from across the planet with no real unifying factor aside from ephemeral banalities the Laurentian consensus forces upon the populace. Everyone else is nothing else but a mere "cast member" expected to uphold this Potemkin delusion. Some do it with aplomb, believing that we live in a utopia, while a growing number already see the paint flaking off this thin facade.

Of course, part of its purpose is to distract us from the real problems plaguing the nation--notably how it's become cripplingly dependent on subsidies, a bloated bureaucracy, and real estate speculation. A fundamental pillar of Trudeau's ideology is that Canadians cannot (or rather, should not) succeed without government intervention. The man is a narcissist with a messianic complex that believes that only he can save this country and thus expects blind obedience from everyone else. This is why you see him handing out multi-billion subsidies to big corporations like GM, Stellantis, and now Honda to build parts for EVs despite many of these companies scaling back because of lack of market demand. He believes that he can will his final society into existence through wishful thinking and legislation.

Similarly, he ignores or enables problems like housing, crumbling infrastructure, and immigration until public opinion and/or the opposition forces his hand. Even then, it's just an unenthusiastic half-measure because he wants us to care about what he cares about and nothing else. He wants total control, which is why he's attempting to bypass provincial jurisdiction and place more controls on media/free speech, but none of the accountability that comes with such power. I imagine that the reason why he loathes populism with such intense passion is he sees it as a threat. He's in his ninth year in power, and that is how long Harper reigned before Trudeau defeated him. Unless he is utterly psychotic, he has to be aware that he is in a losing battle come 2025. That is why we are watching him rant about Alex Jones and stupid Internet memes like Diagolon. He is lashing out because his fragile ego will not allow him to accept defeat gracefully.

If I were a betting man, I would wager that many of the government programs serve a secondary purpose as landmines for his successor who is likely going to be Pierre Poilievre. Narcissists are a vindictive lot. He is counting that any potential cuts would see voters throw the Conservatives out of power and see Liberals reinstated. Should that not come to pass, then he would rather see the country torn asunder than see his hated opposition in power. However, the funny part about this is that he is the chief reason why the Liberals are in such a bad state. Canadians hate him more than they love Poilievre. The Liberals would be in a better position if he were to do the sensible thing and resign; the Conservatives would likely win a minority, but they are looking at a potential supermajority because Trudeau refuses to give up power.

Read the fucking room, Justin. You are the reason why your party is 15-20 points behind in the polls.

"B-But the election is not until October 2025. There's time to turn things around."

That assumes that Trudeau is capable of pivoting on any given issue. His keystone policy on climate change is the federal carbon tax, which he pretty much undermined when he gave an exemption on heating oil to improve his electoral fortunes in Atlantic Canada. (SPOILER ALERT: It didn't work.) Now he has seven out of ten premiers demanding relief or complete abolishment, but he refuses to budge because he believes that he knows better than everyone else. His imperious attitude will only make matters worse for him and the uninspired shell of a nation he envisioned will crumble.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

That assumes that Trudeau is capable of pivoting on any given issue. His keystone policy on climate change is the federal carbon tax, which he pretty much undermined when he gave an exemption on heating oil to improve his electoral fortunes in Atlantic Canada. (SPOILER ALERT: It didn't work.) Now he has seven out of ten premiers demanding relief or complete abolishment, but he refuses to budge because he believes that he knows better than everyone else. His imperious attitude will only make matters worse for him and the uninspired shell of a nation he envisioned will crumble.

Repealing the carbon tax will just be a subsidy to the large Canadian Oligopolies that control the country as prices won't go down, only the carbon rebates will be cut.

As much as repealing the carbon tax is the right thing to do (should have never existed) people will be worse off with the rebates gone.

 

[OutInTheRain]

That assumes that Trudeau is capable of pivoting on any given issue. His keystone policy on climate change is the federal carbon tax, which he pretty much undermined when he gave an exemption on heating oil to improve his electoral fortunes in Atlantic Canada. (SPOILER ALERT: It didn't work.) Now he has seven out of ten premiers demanding relief or complete abolishment, but he refuses to budge because he believes that he knows better than everyone else. His imperious attitude will only make matters worse for him and the uninspired shell of a nation he envisioned will crumble.

Trudeau has eliminated everyone in the party who has any power to check him. It's not like with Chretien where Martin was around to curb some impulses, or a cabinet with multiple members who have high profiles. It's kind of wild how weak the Liberal's are. They have no one waiting in the wings, no high profile members who can take over as leader after Trudeau is gone.

I think after the next defeat the Liberal's might be in the political wilderness for a good long time. Hopefully forever.

 

[Ser Prize]

@Jetpack Himmler

Is this the same 'ole Quebec 'separation' song and dance where they want to totally be an indepedant country but also still wants the federal government to keep funneling Albertan money to them?

 

[wry wrangler]

The only one I can think of to succeed Justin as Liberal leader is Chrystia Freeland, but she's even more unlikable than he is. I think there's a serious possibility Justin won't resign as Liberal leader even after the party gets annihilated in the next election; he's just that much of a narcissist that he might force the party to remove him, if that's even possible.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

@Jetpack Himmler

Is this the same 'ole Quebec 'separation' song and dance where they want to totally be an indepedant country but also still wants the federal government to keep funneling Albertan money to them?

Probably. Quebec has always wanted it both ways and made the wording of the referendum question convoluted to make it sound like they wanted independence, but wanted the perks of being part of Canada.

 

[Flan Handler]

The only one I can think of to succeed Justin as Liberal leader is Chrystia Freeland, but she's even more unlikable than he is. I think there's a serious possibility Justin won't resign as Liberal leader even after the party gets annihilated in the next election; he's just that much of a narcissist that he might force the party to remove him, if that's even possible.

Canada’s Sweetheart, the loathesome Mark Carney is sniffing around also. He has real lizard people Mike Ignatieff energy, can’t wait to see him charm the voters.

Chrystia will Kim Campbell the libs, so go for it!