Canada is a failed state

From WH: "Canadians appear to have misunderstood the plain language of the executive order and they're interpreting it as a trade war,"

Media is already jumping on it as gaslighting but you know, maybe the WH is a bit surprised that Trudeau and the Liberal party is willing to take Trump's gambit and escalate it into a full blown economic war against Canadians.
 
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Canada has developed into a deeply unserious nation that doesn't take its sovereignty seriously.

Instead of making an equitable deal with the native tribes here, instead they formed the Indian Act (name didn't age well), which basically gave them their own sovereignty on native land and led to years of money funnels into native land. Not only did this deal not do us any favours, but natives in Canada now experience extreme levels of crime, poverty and unemployment. They don't need to work, after all, treaty natives get tax exemption and free money from the government ad infinitum. Normally, when you deal with someone, each side of the table offers something. Not with the Indian Act! There are no obligations placed on them at all, instead culminating years of collective white guilt into bags of ever depreciating Canadian Dollars dumped on their property. In some provinces (MN), we even air-lift in medical professionals just so they can have access to health care! Aren't we caring?

Forming a nation of French and English settlers, we once again set the standard that we, as a nation, will be tread upon until our oppressors get what they want. A culmination of the events of the Seven-years-war made Quebec's citizens sour with France, who ceded them to Britain in lieu of their plantations in the Caribbean. Finding themselves unwilling British citizens, the Quebec colonists got themselves provincehood during confederation. What did they do after this? Nothing but rock the boat for 150 years. They demanded special status from any government program (All of Canada, Except Quebec became important rhetoric), and it was granted each and every time. Exception from the Canadian Pension Plan? Granted. Special access to transfer funds from rich provinces? Granted. Canada even sat back and watched them vote to separate. Like... bitch, you do not get the leisure to sit back and "vote" on whether or not you're part of the province. But it didn't matter, we let them vote and fail twice anyways.

And good old America. Once the shackles of WWII were off, and we didn't have to focus on military as much, we experienced a great boom like the US did. After all, we were a western nation who didn't get bombed and won WWII without any economic sanctions. Instead of doing what the US did with its new advantage, who used that capital to proceed to financially dominate the rest of the world now that Britain was selling off all its foreign assets to pay for its war, Canada instead decided that it was time to tax the living shit out of its own people. Income Taxes, provincial income taxes, fuel taxes, road taxes, hidden taxes, luxury taxes, and eventually Federal sales taxes and Provincial sales taxes! Napkin math says that out of every dollar a Canadian earns, 60c goes right to the government in one form or another. Needless to say, businesses in Canada came to the realization that they'd make a lot more money simply trading with the US than with Canadians. So that's what they did. As we sold and sold to the (albeit willing) American markets, our dependence on them being willing to do so increased.

We taxed things so hard that any time a project landed on the desk of a legislator that allowed us to trade with other Canadians more easily (typically by developing the Canadian Shield with better logistics routes, such as pipelines, ice routes, highways, railways and the like), they were shot down each and every time. Why bother? It's easier to just sell to the US. Now thanks to how hard Canadians are fucked by the Canadian Government, it's cheaper to own a cell phone plan roaming on an American plan than it is to buy one from a Canadian Carrier. It's cheaper to fly overseas through customs twice to another Canadian city from west to east cost or visa versa than it is to simply take a direct flight because US flights are half the cost!

Canada spends too much time shitting on other provinces than it does acting like a unified country. It's like the more advanced version of a collection of Congolese tribes too busy fighting among one another to realize what teaming up even looks like.

Getting an energy pipeline across the question shouldn't be "but what if Quebec objects?" (hint: it did) - instead, the question should be how quickly Quebec can come up with a project tender and how much they stand to make from it.

As it stands right now, the country will buckle under an even tiny amount of stress. It doesn't take its own sovereignty seriously.
 
I don't understand, how the hell does Canada not win a Stanley Cup for over 30 years?
Hockey is probably 10-20 years behind other sports in terms of analytics, and lots of public has clung to junk data so there being more fans doesn't lead to more talented coaches, scouts, or executives, and in many cases it becomes detrimental because the average fan is aggressively dumb.
 
A bullet is only dangerous when it goes fast (or if you're retarted)

A truck is a similar thing. They were parked.

I get the idea of them possibly holding explosives, but if that was the case we would be in a drastically different situation (IMO)

And once again, I reiterate, there is no normalized center-too-right news resource that hasn't had the "chud" stamp from the left. And if I remember correctly some of the right wing "journos" are just as greasy
 
I suspect he pissed his pants when Trump demonstrated what real governing looks like.
Yeah well, we'll see if Trudeau actually holds up his end of that deal. Somehow I have a feeling we're going to get a retread of this exact same thing in 30 days when Donnie realizes that the plan is likely to string him along until he stop giving a fuck. Actually doing anything to improve the nation would be way too much work for our political class.

Still, maybe I have 30 days to get my money out of CAD before it totally craters now. Always an upside.
I give it 50/50. Either Trudeau has been completely bitchslapped and cowed to the point that he may actually allow an election to happen, or he plans to do more shenanigans later. I do expect that Trump is actually wargaming what annexing Canada looks like, and if Trudeau tries something funny then Trump will make an offer to Alberta to join America. If Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba join America then Canada will fracture into smaller and more easily contained regions.

I need you to know the only way I can have a reasonable conversation in this thread is to never ever mention the convoy because of how badly it triggers chuds as if it was Vietnam. I managed to not mention it once until a poster quoted me and asked me to present a discussion with no emotional attachment about his emotional attachment to the convoy.

I know real truckers and most of them agree that they drive a weapon on the road. But nope, not a weapon sitting on parliament. That cognitive dissonance makes it impossible to debate with convoy supporters and I have no respect for them as they too are Canadian Niggers. Seethe about it some more.
Go back to Toronto

Some important information from the US thread
This border plan was already announced well before inauguration. It's also not 1.3b up front, it's being scattered across the next like ten years. The government just posted a 62b deficit late last year btw - not only is 1.3 basically a rounding error in thr greater scheme of government spending, it also wasn't part of the budget and hasn't been approved by Parliament which is currently prorogued, so [that ]very announcement of it isn't legal.
 
Whatever bro, try pulling up a group of trucks acting hostile in an American city and see if you don't get outright shot by the cops. American cops would've dragged them out of their trucks and mass arrested them within the first few days so in this way, America is superior.
That's pathetic.
 
Whatever bro, try pulling up a group of trucks acting hostile in an American city and see if you don't get outright shot by the cops. American cops would've dragged them out of their trucks and mass arrested them within the first few days so in this way, America is superior.
It really depends on what the politics of the truckers are and where they're blocking the road. A lot of places in the US allowed and even supported large protests that shut down interstate highways. It even led to a shitload of rapes and murders, and the local governments not only did nothing, but destroyed all the evidence that could have led to future prosecutions. The kids of major politicians were getting detained and released for what would have otherwise been serious felonies. That being said, all the cities that allowed it long term were bug hives similar to Ottawa.
 
It really depends on what the politics of the truckers are and where they're blocking the road. A lot of places in the US allowed and even supported large protests that shut down interstate highways. It even led to a shitload of rapes and murders, and the local governments not only did nothing, but destroyed all the evidence that could have led to future prosecutions. The kids of major politicians were getting detained and released for what would have otherwise been serious felonies. That being said, all the cities that allowed it long term were bug hives similar to Ottawa.
The longest protest outside of the White House was by a guy and Spanish woman who had a single tent near the White House for 35 years.

The second longest was the Poor Peoples Campaign that camped out for six weeks led by the SCLC and Martin Luther King who was assassinated in the midst of it.

There is no precedent for the white house allowing dissenting voices to sit outside of it for longer than two days before action is taken. The political views are opposite of the sitting government. And they are sitting outside of the white house, blocking the roads to the white house. I literally cannot even imagine a world where any sitting president - Biden, Obama, Trump - would go outside and have a beer with these people who are chanting about how much they hate them. Secret service wouldn't even allow that.

But this is the country where a man broke into Jean Chretien's house and tried to attack him with a butter knife. Thats how lax we are.
 
Jesus Christ that's fucking bad. It's actually over with them worming their ways that hard.

Quebec's terms of separation were retarded. They still wanted the Canadian govt to give them Albertan money after they 'separated'.
I mean at some point just fucking cut them off. Let Quebec suffer.

Also, I do want the prairie territories. Unironically I would accept being drafted and killing Ontarians by the bag full. I would honestly enjoy it, I’ll do a guerilla terror campaign right now for minimum, possibly below minimum wage. I’ll use my own ammo surplus.
 
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