Can't find a fucking job

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I just got offered a job while buying car parts. I didn't think situation was this dire. Honestly felt like a boomer moment: "Just walk in and ask for a job" advice.
Good luck Fellen, hope you find what you want.
 
Very real and true. Spent a few months apprenticing in HVAC and the thing that got me out of it was meeting so many dudes who were either fat or permanently injured/handicapped to some extent. A lot of dudes with major hand injuries, and the things I heard about heatstroke were horrible. Those jobs and the hours they demand can destroy your health easily. Unless you’re literally crawling out of a slum or something, HVAC or jobs like probably aren’t the best idea. PS: you’re also going to be working 10+ hours for most of the year, possibly for the rest of your life depending on where you work.

Seriously, unless you have some autistic passion or no other option, you can probably do better, and I imagine that goes for most “skilled trade” jobs.
As someone who does HVAC that's mainly service guys. At least in my experience. Commercial instal really isn't that hard on your body for the most part. I work with guys in their 50s who have been doing it since their teens and they're no worse for wear than a normal 50 year old. All the service guys I've worked with have had shit like electrical panels blow up on them or capacitors zap them. The biggest danger for commerical install is metal shavings getting in your eyes, falling, or power tool accidents. Closest I've come to death is a guy accidently dragging a 12ft ladder I was on with his scissor lift for a few feet. HVAC and Plumbing aren't as hard as people make them out to be, neither is being an electrician. Because for the most part it's like baking, follow the instructions and there won't be too many problems. The people writing the instructions are the ones who need to know most of the crazy hard stuff.

Edit: Oh by the way, a good way to get a foot in the door is if your family or friends have a plumber/electrician/HVAC guy come to work on their home ask if you can shadow them. Ask questions about what they're doing and why. Ask if they're hiring apprentices. Help them out, they drop a screw? Pick it up for them. They need a tool out of their truck? Offer to get it for them. It may sound like you're being a nuisance but trades dudes generally actually enjoy explaining stuff to people who are actually interested. And the number one complaint about apprentices is that they don't ask questions and they don't do stuff unless asked. I got offered a job recently because I did exactly this.
 
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I work with guys in their 50s who have been doing it since their teens and they're no worse for wear than a normal 50 year old
And once you get too old for field work, I understand that you can try for a position with some of the bigger manufacturers and surplus dealers, who maintain regional machine/repair shops, where they send old motors, pumps, compressors, condensers, etc to get rebuilt and refurbished in a nice indoor environment. I heard those are like sinecure positions, where they pay well and there's not many openings, so they exclusively hire old hands with decades of field experience. Presumably there is higher demand for people to teach at technical college, but I'm sure that doesn't pay so good.
 
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this kind of thinking is why people manufacture and sell crack
Making crack and meth is one of the better jobs out on the market. You have: good pay, flexible hours, large potential for gathering connections, easy networking, high customer return rates, etc.
 
Clearly me and a group of my allies have to start a series of businesses dealing in unregistered firearms, stolen vehicles, mind-altering inhibitors, and only accept cash for financial purposes.
 
I'm really struggling to find a job right now. Someone near the start of the thread said that you can get a job if you know javascript. Is it really that easy? Can I get a job without a degree? How much do I need to know to get a job? Any tips?

I want to get into computers and if I can get a job without a degree that would be awesome.
 
As someone who does HVAC that's mainly service guys. At least in my experience. Commercial instal really isn't that hard on your body for the most part. I work with guys in their 50s who have been doing it since their teens and they're no worse for wear than a normal 50 year old. All the service guys I've worked with have had shit like electrical panels blow up on them or capacitors zap them. The biggest danger for commerical install is metal shavings getting in your eyes, falling, or power tool accidents. Closest I've come to death is a guy accidently dragging a 12ft ladder I was on with his scissor lift for a few feet. HVAC and Plumbing aren't as hard as people make them out to be, neither is being an electrician. Because for the most part it's like baking, follow the instructions and there won't be too many problems. The people writing the instructions are the ones who need to know most of the crazy hard stuff.
I just quit doing residential hvac after around 8 months of doing installs, it was awful crawling around in attics and under houses. Boss didnt really care so I would often find myself breathing in toxic shit and being told I needed to peel off asbestos tape before an inspector came to a job. I have some shitty tech stuff im trying to learn online I really want to find literally any tech job it doesnt need to be online.
 
Anybody got any good notes on making resumes (eg: layouts, how to describe previous jobs)? I'm changing careers and I've come to realize it's been several years since I've had to write a good one.
 
Making crack and meth is one of the better jobs out on the market. You have: good pay, flexible hours, large potential for gathering connections, easy networking, high customer return rates, etc.
You forgot Work From Home in a dynamic diverse and challenging environment. Your employer will even let you keep some of the stuff you make!

Anybody got any good notes on making resumes (eg: layouts, how to describe previous jobs)? I'm changing careers and I've come to realize it's been several years since I've had to write a good one.
Honestly, chatgpt. Blabble something in about what you did and it will build you a whole cv.
Don't be too weary of using "ai" - content generation tehniques as all cv's are processed by computers before they even reach a person.

There are a ton of people retiring right now. Workforce will go like 20% down in 5 years. Entire departments will clear.
 
if you think you wont get enough money to live off from the state consider that entire mexican clans with 10 kids do just fine
It's late as fuck but I still feel this needs replying to:
The reason why mexican clans do just fine is because of either the state being blue-aligned and/or their single house they're all cramped in being an entire shit heap. Alongside that, there's more free money for just not being white and being an illegal. Unless I'm entirely wrong on this and there's more free money just waiting for an actual citizen to take it. Not like you can find out any more with how shitty search engines have gotten.

I'm saying this because I'm having to try this on disability because my good old deck of cards made me start as disabled, in bumfuck nowhere, without an available means of steady transportation nor the money to get one, where the only few local remaining "jobs" are hired to nepo babies and/or have bosses that are out of touch baby boomers thinking that underpaying and overworking people is still a valid way of living. Or, just flat out scams made to lure you and get shot by drug addicts who just wanna steal the clothes off your back. I'm blessed that I even managed to get some money off the state for disability, but they are always fucking threatening it just being taken away if they feel like it. To say it's the bare minimum is stretching it. Which would be fair in a just society, don't be a leech and all, but not fair considering Pablo's getting a lot more, plus extra job opportunities (not that he's gonna take them, but they're reserved just for people like him), just for hopping the border and not even choosing to learn an iota of fucking English and just lazing around on his porch while his kids are out getting into gang crimes.

Then, let's say that Mexican actually does go to work. He will STILL get extra free money, housing, etc despite already having a job and all the opportunities in the world, more than enough to get a workable means of transportation super fucking easily. Meanwhile, any money I might make on my end is heavily supervised, and only runs a bigger risk of it having it all taken away from me. Not for him, though. Hell, I bet he even gets free training too.
And about free training, I'm incredibly thankful this thread's got good resources and protips for it for people looking to get their feet on the ground, trying to find it on search engines is a nightmare. And sorry to blow up in such a useful thread -- but my intention anyway is to tell that the Mexican NEET life likely isn't gonna work for an actual US civilian. If you somehow managed to get it working though, that'd be amazing.
 
I'm really struggling to find a job right now. Someone near the start of the thread said that you can get a job if you know javascript. Is it really that easy? Can I get a job without a degree? How much do I need to know to get a job? Any tips?

I want to get into computers and if I can get a job without a degree that would be awesome.
Not a chance mate. Tech is in th gutter and management thinks AI can do your job then will offshore it or give it to an H1B jeet.

AI and HR have broken the candidate intake process to an insane degree so even if you are the one in a million fit for a role you won't get a first round interview.

If the role was real
If the company wasn't trying to justify H1b by rejecting all other resumes

Don't learn to code for income man, it's a dead end now. I know more engineers out than in and I'm clinging to a shit job for lack of options.

Also you'll be considered too old by 50 to get a new role usually.

Avoid the living fuck out of this scam. I didn't back in the days we thought coding would be a real field for a long time. I'm now wholly fucked by stress, fat from being an office worker, and watching opportunities for my future go to nothing.

Find a job that cannot be sent to India or done by AI
 
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Find a job that cannot be sent to India or done by AI
Like what? I'm bad at interacting with people so sales is out of the question. My grandpa was a blue collar worker and it fucked up his body big time, so I'd really rather not do that.

Is software engineering subject to the same issues coding is? Could I do that?

I have an IQ of 116, is that smart enough for software engineering?
 
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Like what? I'm bad at interacting with people so sales is out of the question. My grandpa was a blue collar worker and it fucked up his body big time, so I'd really rather not do that.

Is software engineering subject to the same issues coding is? Could I do that?

I have an IQ of 116, is that smart enough for software engineering?
I genuinely don't understand the distinction between coding and software engineering as a career. They are the same to me although you could argue engineering is more than just coding. And it is. But I am familiar with the latter, and yes the field is terrible right now.

Above average intelligence is plenty. Super genius isn't the requirement. The ability to think like a software engineer is the important part. By this I mean there's a level of logical, abstract thinking you have to be able to do. I used to tell people if they were in college if the basics of programming make no sense to you by the end of your 2nd semester, you probably aren't cut out for it. Realistically someone inclined to it who will be good at it will get the basics more or less much faster than that.

It's a particular way of thinking more than raw intelligence. Most famous of the field are generally not the real geniuses but just th sales assholes who stole someone's work (die bill gates in a fucking fire you trash upon the fucking world)

I unfortunately don't know what to tell you to pursue. I'm old enough and have for various reasons little I am trained for otherwise so if I cannot stay in software I'm probably fucked.

I understand the hesitance about physical trades but, it really might be worth making sure none of them appeal at all. I wish I had better advice to give you. But I'm telling you now entry positions in tech are being fought over by 1000 jeets for every role because they want their visa to either come here or stay here and management thinks AI means we need far fewer engineers than we do. If you don't have experience or a degree you aren't gonna walk in cold off the street those days died in the post 00 dot com crash and frankly right now is the worst I have seen the field in my lifetime.

I say this having known multiple people who wanted to switch to software in the past 3 years when times were not as bad and none of them could break in. Project manager roles are slim picking as well. Scrum master is dead nearly as a role that's paid on its own. QA is outsourced these days or just ignored (see the windows lack of qa for patches these days) .

You could see if tech writing is a thing but I don't know how many roles exist for that. That's often the customer facing documentation writers who have to have English skills and be able to talk to the software side of the house. Because we stop being sane people who talk normal at some point in our careers.

You can try to break into software development but if you need a job anytime soon and need a good chance of getting in I can't say that's what I'd recommend. If you're dead set on it you can try Im not trying to squash dreams here. The economy as a whole fucking sucks.

I'm also talking from a USA perspective and cannot speak well to companies based on the EU or UK.

Trust me I wish I knew what I could move into more than the nothing answer I have and I wish the field wasn't a shit show.
 
There are no open entry level fields that trust the employee with a modicum of complexity. The 500 million of the third world has finished their public university tenures and they want your jobs, whitie! Best give up and become an ascetic in Wyoming or whatever your negrified nation's equivalent of Abiegnus is.
 
Like what? I'm bad at interacting with people so sales is out of the question. My grandpa was a blue collar worker and it fucked up his body big time, so I'd really rather not do that.

Is software engineering subject to the same issues coding is? Could I do that?

I have an IQ of 116, is that smart enough for software engineering?
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My grandpa was a blue collar worker and it fucked up his body big time
You do realize that a service tech and a foundry worker are both blue collar jobs and one is much more taxing on the body than the other right? Also sitting in a chair can fuck you up just as badly in some cases, just look at the obesity epidemic. If you're hesitant and don't want to try your hand at the typical HVAC/Plumbing/Electrician recommendations you can try working in a machine shop and pressing the green button on a machine. You'll be waking up before dawn or working until after sun down but you'll be employed. They also typically need people because their parolee got arrested again for DUI or pills or something and their cheap Mexican laborers got deported again.
 
Also sitting in a chair can fuck you up just as badly in some cases
Yes but you can avoid that by working out, it's a problem that is easily solvable. If you have a job that wears down your body you're fucked, because you have to go to work, there are things you can do to mitigate it but in all the cases I've seen by retirement age your body is fucked.
you can try working in a machine shop and pressing the green button on a machine. You'll be waking up before dawn or working until after sun down but you'll be employed.
I'd unironically rather just kill myself. That's not to say I'm unwilling to work shit jobs now, but if that was my career for the rest of my life, yeah, fuck no.
 
If you have a job that wears down your body you're fucked
There's plenty of old guys working past their 60s in machine shops, they seem to hold up just fine waiting for youngsters like you to get one of them real jobs.
That's not to say I'm unwilling to work shit jobs now, but if that was my career for the rest of my life, yeah, fuck no.
Your issue was a job, not really a career. Although you'd have advancement opportunities in most cases if you really are 116 IQ. You want something that doesn't require a degree and then you seem to want to do the jobs that require a degree or certifications prior to making any money.
 
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