Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[instythot]

You're essentially saying having access to the banking system is an essential right that the government has a responsibility to ensure, alongside stuff like utilities.

Do you want to explain how something like access to the banking system should be allowed but stuff like reasonable access to health care or living wages etc shouldn't? Thats the slippery slope I'm taking about.

I'm not saying full access to the banking system, just the parts that let you send send payments and withdraw money you already have so you can pay for things or do whatever you want with the money you already own in an increasingly electronic society. Extension of credit isn't included here.

It's not a debate about basic human rights, it's a property rights issue. That's your money stored in those 1s and 0s, and you're the one who gets to decide what gets done with it, not some representative of the bank

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

You're essentially saying having access to the banking system is an essential right that the government has a responsibility to ensure, alongside stuff like utilities.

Do you want to explain how something like access to the banking system should be allowed but stuff like reasonable access to health care or living wages etc shouldn't? Thats the slippery slope I'm taking about.

Saying "reasonable" like this is like liberals saying "reasonable" gun control. It's poisoning the well. Knock off that retarded bullshit.

Anyway, probably an easy fix for this is to simply bar governments from working with or using banks and payment processors that chose to discriminate based on ideology.

 

[Goku 1000000 O]

I've been hearing people say for months that "oohh it's gonna get REALLY good now! Because of X sargon is going to jump off a cliff! He's really done it! He's in for it now!", it never fucking happens. People are so desperate for fucking high they're like heroin junkies chasing the dragon, to the point where Patreon doing what it will inevitably now do to Jim and Ralph by the end of the year is somehow a good thing.

I think your perspective is mistaken here.
There are two places that actually routinely make fun of Sargon. The Farms and /cow/, this thread is usually pretty restrained in saying something will happen to Carl and even yesterday when we found out about the Patreon getting nuked, people here explicitly said its a bad practice so we weren't saying its a good thing. You might have more of a point about /cow/ but even then taking almost anything said there at face value is ill advised and it really is a den of shitposters.
Also, theres been like one time at best where people would actually say its "the end of Sargon" unironically. Which is when he almost got blocked from UKIP, and even thats in the context of just a political career not a YT one. If anything this is the first time something has happened to him that might actually really hurt him.
The guesses at Sargon sperging the fuck out (which I think is what you mean by Sargon is going to jump off a cliff) alot of the time can also be shitposting, and even then we've mostly been right.
Say he's not very bright? He starts a political movement to prove he is actually smart
Make fun of him and his Liberalistism? Calls you Nazi trolls groomed by a man in Minnesota
Make fun of the miscarriage? He speds out on twitter for a week
Almost blocked from UKIP? He makes a vindictive video going off on Ralph for reporting on it
Gamergate 2.0 is fucking ridiculous? He spergs on Jim during that stream
I don't think Sargon will sperg from this either but its not unreasonable and the track record for that prediction is better than you're giving credit for.

Edit: Look he's already trying to frame this as being a conspiracy by far right trolls rather than the more reasonable option of it being leftist influence

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

You're essentially saying having access to the banking system is an essential right that the government has a responsibility to ensure, alongside stuff like utilities.

If PayPal were bank wouldn't it get into trouble for deplatforming people? I was under the impression that PayPal is playing fast and loose - it's an Internet company, not a bank which is the reason it gets away with it.

If you look at Youtube and Twitter and so on they're playing fast and loose with the rules - they want CDA S 230 protections as platforms not publishers but they reserve the right to have editorial control like a publisher.

It may well be that PayPal is doing something analogous - collecting payments like a bank but not being regulated like one.

I sort of wonder if the GOP shouldn't look into the special case light touch regulation that allows Internet companies to avoid the regulation non Internet ones have now they're all run by the enemy.

 

[The Flawless Gazelles]

this deplatforming is a sign of bad things to come. i disklike sargon as many others, but we are heading in a horrible direction. if the internet needs to be protected from someone like sargon. better start to learn how to grow veggies, do basic repairs etc.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

You've been saying a lot of retarded shit, and I didn't want to address this post because it's mind-blowingly stupid and it's amazing how you thought this would work on any of us here, but..

No context really matter here man. Part of way there was so much outrage on YouTube over pdp was because it was one isolated event. You had ultra liberal people like nostalgia chick saying that it was just a fuck up on pdp's side but that he's not actually a nazi.

In Carl's case here, he's getting kicked off because his entire business model to jerking off money from Alt right basement dwellers. There's a much more established history of him being xenophobic and racist, and sexist. Not only does he say this shit, he actively supports people who say that shit too. I don't think anyone who's not his butt buddy are going to contend the those charges.

Sargon is not alt right and he is far from alt right, and his start down the long road of lolcowery is sometimes pinpointed as when he lost the debate against Richard Spencer. The alt right hate him, his group are the "liberalists" which are teenagers that read an essay written by John Locke in high school and think they're the vanguards of some ancient order that has fallen on hard times.

And then going on about how he's xenophobic, and racist, and sexist, after complaining about how he and Tommy Robinson were mean to poor little Islam? Can I ask you a question? What color is your hair right now? Is it... an unnatural, bright color, by any chance? You can try to make excuses for Sargon getting cut off Patreon, but nobody here is going to fall for that bullshit. Two things can be true, that Sargon could be a faggot and he should not at all have been kicked off of Patreon, you're trying to use the fact that we hate Sargon (for other reasons) for your own stupid agenda.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

this deplatforming is a sign of bad things to come. i disklike sargon as many others, but we are heading in a horrible direction. if the internet needs to be protected from someone like sargon. better start to learn how to grow veggies, do basic repairs etc.

Exactly. The guy is an idiot but his political views are ridiculously milquetoast. If he's going to get kicked of Patreon, PayPal, Youtube etc then we're really up shit creek when it comes to freedom of speech.

 

[instythot]

Exactly. The guy is an idiot but his political views are ridiculously milquetoast. If he's going to get kicked of Patreon, PayPal, Youtube etc then we're really up shit creek when it comes to freedom of speech.

To paraphrase Nicky Rackets, freedom of speech is only popular when (actual) boomers are getting their way because of it

 

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[Lysol]

Edit: Look he's already trying to frame this as being a conspiracy by far right trolls rather than the more reasonable option of it being leftist influence
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I know Carl's stupid, but he's not stupid enough to honestly believe it's "far-right trolls".

Like god damn man right now he should be sucking the right's collective dicks and giving out apologies like confetti because they're the only people who would even remotely back him aside from his capos and subscribers. He really needs to get over his fucking ego or he's not going to have much left in a few months.

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There's literally no way for him to argue against that. There's too many instances of him blatantly using racial slurs for him to do so.

 

[shasetoma.]

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>"we believe in freedom of speech"
>your page has been removed because of using wrong words

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Unless I am awfully wrong on living costs in the UK for a family of three (well, okay, four mouths, Carl's a big boy), 100k a year just off Patreon is a great amount of money. It's not particularly easy to piss that away, especially since his wife, as someone in the thread said, does also have a job and that's an additional 25k at least.
What would he even spend all this money on? Coke?

These ecelebs suck at money. If they were smart they’d invest their earnings elsewhere. Efame is fleeting, it really can’t be trusted as a long term source of revenue.

 

[instythot]

Edit: Look he's already trying to frame this as being a conspiracy by far right trolls rather than the more reasonable option of it being leftist influence
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Blaming far right trolls is halfway to blaming Daddy Jim who went for cigarettes halfway through gamergate and never came back, after all

 

[Sonork]

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[Berrakh]

Letting silicon valley decide who gets access is more of a slippery slope than regulation.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

https://twitter.com/MarkACollett/status/1070986129481043968

Couldn't put it better myself Mark. Wait, Mark Collett?

Having him on the same side reminds me of this cartoon where there's a tug of war with libertarians and fascists one one side and communists and capitalists on the other.

http://stonetoss.com/comic/opposites-attract/

 

[Pozzingmyfilthyneghole]

Like Applepiss would ever hire a middle-aged douchebag associated with the alt-right in 2018. The media backlash would be brutal. No company would ever hire him. Ever.

Applebee's in Britain. Now that's a double whammy of culinary abomination.

 

[Berrakh]

https://twitter.com/MarkACollett/status/1070986129481043968

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Couldn't put it better myself Mark. Wait, Mark Collett?

Having him on the same side reminds me of this cartoon where there's a tug of war with libertarians and fascists one one side and communists and capitalists on the other.

http://stonetoss.com/comic/opposites-attract/

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That cartoon makes people chimp. And yet it is so true, especially with deplatforming.

 

[GranDuke]

https://twitter.com/MarkACollett/status/1070986129481043968

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Couldn't put it better myself Mark. Wait, Mark Collett?

Having him on the same side reminds me of this cartoon where there's a tug of war with libertarians and fascists one one side and communists and capitalists on the other.

http://stonetoss.com/comic/opposites-attract/

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I wonder if he isn't doing this on purpose knowing that his "support" can be used as additional ammo against Sargon. If I'm not mistaken he has called out Tommy multiple times for being pro-Israel shill so I doubt that he has much, if any, love for Sargon.

 

[instythot]

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God damn, that's gotta sting with Jim and Ralph's patreon accounts still existing