Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

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instythot said:
Good lord. Maybe politicians recognize that using hot button words to hurt feelings of not only potential voters, but also of potential voters with a faggot in the family might be a bad idea in a popularity contest, and that most functioning adults appreciate that we should ideally hold our leaders to a higher standard of behavior than we hold ourselves to.
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This is how you create political correctness. People look to the politicians to see what is okay to say. If you're saying "hurting people's feelings" needs to be banned, congratulations because you're a liberal and that leads to all the anti bullying policies, censoring of every word from nigger, to faggot, to spic. You gotta be able to hurt the feeling of other people if they deserve it. You seem to be fundamentally liberal. Politicians need to be held the exact same standard, ironic cuz the entire idea of liberal democracy and rule of law is the politicians are held to the same standard. Being "fake" MUST be viewed as a lower standard, not higher. You cannot save the west through the same values that destroyed the west.

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Inb4 BUT MUH TRUMP: Trump didn't win through brashness. He overcame it in the general with a very well coordinated and focused ground game enabled through very granular demographics data processed by Conway in the states that could be flipped that were also being ignored by Clinton. His primary win also ran a great targeted ground game despite the spectacle.
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Trump cucked on soo many issues. Trump is a good example of how to NOT win. He renegged on his entire primarily platform after the GOP convention and the result has been this do-nothing presidency. Trump and Reagan are both proof positive that it's NOT enough to win the election, if you win on the wrong platform then you win the battle but lose the war. Trump won the battle but he lost the war. He has done nothing to MAGA.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
This is how you create political correctness. People look to the politicians to see what is okay to say. If you're saying "hurting people's feelings" needs to be banned, congratulations because you're a liberal and that leads to all the anti bullying policies, censoring of every word from nigger, to faggot, to spic. You gotta be able to hurt the feeling of other people if they deserve it. You seem to be fundamentally liberal. Politicians need to be held the exact same standard, ironic cuz the entire idea of liberal democracy and rule of law is the politicians are held to the same standard. Being "fake" MUST be viewed as a lower standard, not higher. You cannot save the west through the same values that destroyed the west..
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I'm not saying that we ban hurting feelings. I'm saying that successful politicians (the ones who get elected) grasp on at least some level that perception is key to winning popularity contests, people perceive that they want their betters in charge of things instead of their peers or worse, and that railing against those being a facts is tilting at windmills
 
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I'm not saying that we ban hurting feelings. I'm saying that successful politicians (the ones who get elected) grasp on at least some level that perception is key to winning popularity contests, people perceive that they want their betters in charge of things instead of their peers or worse, and that railing against those being a facts is tilting at windmills
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issue... 1. yes politics is a popularity context BUT you get into the Henry Ford quote, "If I asked people what they wanted, they would say a faster horse." So you have to change what people want and that means saying or doing things that are unpopular in the short run (like supporting gay marriage or illegal immigrants) to change the long-term culture. If you give people what they want today, sure you can win the election like the GOP or the torries but you lose the culture war.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
issue... 1. yes politics is a popularity context BUT you get into the Henry Ford quote, "If I asked people what they wanted, they would say a faster horse." So you have to change what people want and that means saying or doing things that are unpopular in the short run (like supporting gay marriage or illegal immigrants) to change the long-term culture. If you give people what they want today, sure you can win the election like the GOP or the torries but you lose the culture war.
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Oh. You believe in the 20 year plan. Never mind
 
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TheImportantFart said:
Then who is? Paul Nehlen? Sargon? Patrick Little? Arthur J Jones? All these people went into elections gung ho, not caring what they said, or their optics, and they all failed absolutely miserably because they're morons who don't understand how this shit works.
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Caesar?

Pat Little and Paul Nehlen fucked up because they couldn't convince the normies of their viewpoint. So that's a failure. But so too is Trump or Boris Johnson winning on a platform of mostly telling people what is already socially acceptable. You need a middle group. To win the culture war, you gotta normalize dissident ideas. If this was easy, someone would have already done it.
 
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Caesar?

Pat Little and Paul Nehlen fucked up because they couldn't convince the normies of their viewpoint. So that's a failure. But so too is Trump or Boris Johnson winning on a platform of mostly telling people what is already socially acceptable. You need a middle group. To win the culture war, you gotta normalize dissident ideas. If this was easy, someone would have already done it.
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Uh, Caesar broke into politics with a literal army to back him up. Things don't play out that way in the West these days, big guy
 
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Oh wow, the best example you can give me is a guy who lived 2,000 years ago when the political landscape looked very different.

I say again, are you for real?
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Ya. We're in a really tough situation. The people that come closest to my mind who can save us would be Caesar, Napoleon or Hitler. We need someone on that level to win. Trump made a dent but he's too incompetent to keep going forward.

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Uh, Caesar broke into politics with a literal army to back him up. Things don't play out that way in the West these days, big guy
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Well it sure is looking like we're heading toward a civil war. But Caesar was popular with the people unlike Sargon.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
Ya. We're in a really tough situation. The people that come closest to my mind who can save us would be Caesar, Napoleon or Hitler. We need someone on that level to win. Trump made a dent but he's too incompetent to keep going forward.
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Okay buddy. I look forward to seeing what form your Dark Knight will take.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
issue... 1. yes politics is a popularity context BUT you get into the Henry Ford quote, "If I asked people what they wanted, they would say a faster horse." So you have to change what people want and that means saying or doing things that are unpopular in the short run (like supporting gay marriage or illegal immigrants) to change the long-term culture. If you give people what they want today, sure you can win the election like the GOP or the torries but you lose the culture war.
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BoxerShorts47 said:
Ya. We're in a really tough situation. The people that come closest to my mind who can save us would be Caesar, Napoleon or Hitler. We need someone on that level to win. Trump made a dent but he's too incompetent to keep going forward.
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How innocent and yet somehow pretentious.
You seem to have this romantic notion about politics. It's almost as if you've stumbled in here from a previous century, where contributing to politics as a citizen actually might have meant something. Let me update you on reality in Current Year; voting means shit. Elections are dick sucking contests where the person who gives head the best wins. Offices like President or Prime Minister or what-have-you are about as respectable an office as Homecoming Queen. Politics is not Hearts of Iron, it isn't Europa Universalis, it isn't Total War or even Civilization, all of which you seem to have it confused with. Politics is sad and dreary and pathetic. It's about pleasing people you don't care about to get into a place of prestige so you can brag about it. And as for
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Caesar?
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Caesar is fucking dead.
You want to legitimately change something in the political structure? Nut up, round up some friends, kill the government, and replace it with your own. Otherwise, I'd recommend going back to the Athenians Discord, because I don't think even reddit would put up with your LARPing.
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what happened? did you transition?
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I wouldn't even rape you, not even with the requisite alcohol.
 
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You know who's an actual good example of howto win, take power, be liked and make systems of government your bitch? Tony Blaire. The man made sweeping, defining changes to our NHS, our immigration, our schools, and our police. He ruled essentially unopposed and he did it by appearing as a well meaning, moderate, humble man that was happy to listen to you; have a nice chat and then he'd completely disregard your desires and do his own thing. The man took, held onto and wielded power like a fucking chessmaster.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
The people that come closest to my mind who can save us would be Caesar, Napoleon or Hitler.
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Now that's fucking epic. One was killed by his own friend, other started foolish war and left his country in ruin and the last one first started genocide of his own people, then started war with Europe, where he started genocide of all undesirable elements, then started a war with Union, where war crimes went through the roof and in result left his country in even bigger ruin, but also forever disgraced by the atrocities it's people have committed. Great examples, but you should add Pol Pot there, he too didn't care about political correctness.
 
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JuanButNotForgotten said:
Now that's fucking epic. One was killed by his own friend, other started foolish war and left his country in ruin and the last one first started genocide of his own people, then started war with Europe, where he started genocide of all undesirable elements, then started a war with Union, where war crimes went through the roof and in result left his country in even bigger ruin, but also forever disgraced by the atrocities it's people have committed. Great examples, but you should add Pol Pot there, he too didn't care about political correctness.
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Also I find the idea that Hitler, ma boy Mussolini and Ceaser are not politically correct to be utterly inane. They didn't ascribe the same things are verbotum as the modern left, but they definitely did limit speech and freedoms, and used violence to back up their edicts. Ceaser named himself a fucking god for gods sakes; the imperial cult that was set up in his name would have strangled you to death, and buried you alive as punishment for speaking against Ceaser, Ceaser himself played to the ideas of what a roman should be and used rhetoric of a weak senate to seize power. He was not a trog being a spaz going 'lol rape' the man was a brutal conquering dictator with a god complex who tolerated no resistance and no speaking against him.

Hitler especially was not politically incorrect, he courted the middle classes, he pandered to the old blood and he murdered half his dammed followers to appease the old guard and ensure the reigning political power was with him.

Like I legit like the Pasta Emperor. Sure he fucked up and messed Italy up; but I like him. He was not however some dissident political activist, he was a dictator whose sole desire to was to raise his country above all others, build an actual empire on the continent and set his people above everyone else. That's not being politically incorrect; that's ensuring your politics are the only politics.
 
Carl said in his Teespring video that he has a twitter alternative called Parler, and that hes going to start using it more considering all the 230 shit going on. However, interestingly, despite looking to distinguish himself from the Sargon brand he still has his @ as Sargon.

I wonder if he'll actually made good on that whole media venture thing, or if it'll end up like most of his projects. Left to die because a lazy fuck couldn't be bothered to work on them.
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