Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

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(Also despite mechs, radios, cars, electrical generators, and spirit-energy weapons all being invented in Korras time, the next Avatar who knows how many decades after her apparently has to use a fucking pirate pegleg.)
She's originally an Earthbender, right? So that peg-leg is probably her best attempt at bending a leg (lmao) in a post-apocalyptic world where--I'm assuming--bending knowledge has been lost. She'll probably use whatever element when she unlocks her ebin Avatar powers.

I haven't read a thing about the new series other than what I've learned from osmosis. I could be wrong and it actually is a wooden peg-leg.
 
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Really? Just a fucking giant lynx cat with a monkey tail? Lmao.

Also this push for more disability (amputee) rep is getting really uncomfortable that it may just be people pushing a fetish onto children. Her having a peg leg needs to actually be super-duper important to her journey because she'll have to learn to accommodate for everything around it and the hinderances she'll have to overcome. Her origin of having that peg leg also needs to be important to the story if they're going to be front-and-center about it because the audience can't be expected to be able to ignore it.

Look, Hiccup didn't lose his leg and Edward Elric his arm and leg so that shitty Tumblr amputee OCs can waltz about and do tricks around them like they never lost a body part. If you're going to insist on this, we really and truly need to see it happen because growth is crucial, and that's how you get children who do have prosthetic limbs come to terms with their disability.
 
Apparently, they've decided to go the post-apocalyptic route, effectively retconning the advances made in Korra's time. It's the most boring route they could have taken —it's basically a clean slate instead of building on anything they established previously. A sci-fi version of Avatar would have been more interesting, imho.
>Korra was canonically such a garbage Avatar that all of the advancement from Aang and Korras collective lifetimes wasted away and society went from ~the 1920s to post-apocalyptic, and it's up to the next Avatar to clean up that mess and reunite the world again
 
Also this push for more disability (amputee) rep is getting really uncomfortable that it may just be people pushing a fetish onto children. Her having a peg leg needs to actually be super-duper important to her journey because she'll have to learn to accommodate for everything around it and the hinderances she'll have to overcome. Her origin of having that peg leg also needs to be important to the story if they're going to be front-and-center about it because the audience can't be expected to be able to ignore it.

Look, Hiccup didn't lose his leg and Edward Elric his arm and leg so that shitty Tumblr amputee OCs can waltz about and do tricks around them like they never lost a body part. If you're going to insist on this, we really and truly need to see it happen because growth is crucial, and that's how you get children who do have prosthetic limbs come to terms with their disability.
Do they ever portray these disabilities as actually being a hinderance in these lame modern shows?
I'm betting 100% that they don't have the balls to show people trying to trip her.
 
Do they ever portray these disabilities as actually being a hinderance in these lame modern shows?
I'm betting 100% that they don't have the balls to show people trying to trip her.
I have no idea. Hiccup just sticks out as the golden standard of how to approach amputees and how, over time, you just accept he has a prosthetic limb because he, too, accepts it's just a part of himself now since he's from a culture where someone tends to lose a body part.

It's so bizarre, too, because the token handicapped kid was a thing for years, and no one batted an eye then. It's weird that despite it being much more likely to have known someone like this, no one can write these characters as characters anymore. They're just mouthpieces and/or wank material for good boy points.
 
I’ve already seen the Xitter crowd getting up in arms.
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A good amount of the quotes and comments are of course “Tut tut, everyone is just mad that there’s a brown girl avatar, just like with Korra. Bunch of fucking chuds”. Presumably ignoring or disregarding all of Korra’s terrible qualities. And at least one “People just hate change!” Yeah, because the change sucks. Most people say it just looks like artwork from a Pokémon knockoff, which I can absolutely see.
Speaking of Toph, I always see people say as a gotcha “Oh you love her, but you’d hate her if she was written today!” Probably, considering how disabled and female characters tend to be written nowadays. Because nobody knows how to make characters fucking characters.
 
Speaking of Toph, I always see people say as a gotcha “Oh you love her, but you’d hate her if she was written today!” Probably, considering how disabled and female characters tend to be written nowadays. Because nobody knows how to make characters fucking characters.
Of course we'd hate Toph had she been written today.

2025 Toph would have no flaws and no situations in which she's hindered or even insecure about her abilities. She'd be able to read with her hands like Daredevil, and paint portraits like Leonardo da Vinci. All those scenes where she has issues perceiving the world because she's airborne or standing on sand? Never happen. Just all girlboss, all the time.
 
I’ve already seen the Xitter crowd getting up in arms.
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A good amount of the quotes and comments are of course “Tut tut, everyone is just mad that there’s a brown girl avatar, just like with Korra. Bunch of fucking chuds”. Presumably ignoring or disregarding all of Korra’s terrible qualities. And at least one “People just hate change!” Yeah, because the change sucks. Most people say it just looks like artwork from a Pokémon knockoff, which I can absolutely see.
Speaking of Toph, I always see people say as a gotcha “Oh you love her, but you’d hate her if she was written today!” Probably, considering how disabled and female characters tend to be written nowadays. Because nobody knows how to make characters fucking characters.
Maybe people legitimately loved the first series and hate what the whole franchise has become. It’s not enough that they forget or even ignore what made the first series good, they have to destroy it while insisting it’s better somehow. Avatar wasn’t my favorite show, but was special and to see it become another bloated corpse is a shame.

Edit: Oh fuck me, “a world shattered by a devastating cataclysm." Who would've thought that unleashing monsters that preyed on humans onto the world, and upsetting the balance of nature, would have cataclysmic consequences?
 
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Most people say it just looks like artwork from a Pokémon knockoff, which I can absolutely see.
That's fair. I had Netflix's Voltron in mind because of the clothes —the shapes and details are very similar. I know there's people who worked on both Korra and Voltron, including at least one of Voltron's showrunners: if they're back, I'm not surprised they're veering off sci-fi and mechas.

I don't want to complain about what we don't know yet, and there's ideas that seem interesting (the avatar being seen as a villain this time around is a good change in dynamic after Aang and Korra). My concern is that it seems like they're retconning what the fandom didn't like about LoK (the setting and technology weren't embraced by a lot of people and it seems like Pavi's quest is gonna have something to do with restoring the avatar cycle) and some plot points seem like a direct response to the fandom's opinions (Korra's place as "humanity's destroyer". Chances are Pavi's gonna have to learn what really happened in the apocalyptic catastrophe).

The glass half full part of that argument is that they'll avoid shipping like the plague after LoK and Voltron lol maybe that's why we have a child avatar with her mentor and twin.
 
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Am I crazy or is there literally NOTHING about this image that says "avatar"? It looks more like promotionnal art for a shitty mobile game that's just aping BOTW, where every feature is a microtransaction.
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The difference in artstyles is pretty night and day.
Speaking of Toph, I always see people say as a gotcha “Oh you love her, but you’d hate her if she was written today!”
People are gonna bring up Toph as a gotcha every damn time you try to bring up Pavi, I can already see it. There's still potential for them to explore the ramifications of actually being disabled in a post apocalyptic world that isn't built for you, and how Pavi has to work around that and live with it from seemingly a very young age, much in the same way atla did with Toph, but I don't see any reason why they won't just call it a day by giving her a peg leg and having it function perfectly as a normal leg in every aspect.
 
That literally will stop no one.
I was thinking along the lines of the showrunners avoiding shipping within the show, unlike what happened in Korra. Given how concious they seem to be of fans's feedback, they have to be painfully aware of how disliked their romance plots are.

Fandom is a different beast.
 
People like Toph because she's a good character and her being blind is something explored in a way that makes sense in the fictional world she's in. She also has a personality outside of being blind so she can be a relatable character and that makes the audience feel empathic with her.

Honestly if Toph was made today the modern audience crowd would complain about her not being a proper representation of real life blind people, they would complain she doesnt even has a walking stick or would complain that shes not looking at the camera to tell the audience how awful ablelists are.

People would complain because is not enough representation or not realistic enough
 
Regarding Pavi/7 Havens: I really don't mind the missing leg because the key here is she has a twin (apparently) who is not disabled and this twin is mistaken for being the Avatar while Pavi is discarded. That has potential to be a great story. Of course there's a massive chance they could fuck it up, but I can't imagine they will put a 10 year old in a love triangle at least. When you take it in context, it's actually fine. It's the same thing Black Butler did. There's a story reason for the disability which could play into a strong theme and provide good characterization for Pavi and her twin. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Whereas there's plenty of times we can say "yeah no this is just pure pandering" like the new Rick and Morty spin-off featuring retard Obama. There were several times in R&M they lampshaded the lack of "diversity" and now this gets announced... Here is your unfiltered liberal simping in all its unholy glory. I mean, if we can all ignore that the last name of the protagonist has always been Sanchez. Totally sounds white to me.

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I was thinking along the lines of the showrunners avoiding shipping within the show, unlike what happened in Korra. Given how concious they seem to be of fans's feedback, they have to be painfully aware of how disliked their romance plots are.
I still refuse to believe they won't have some kind of romantic subplot happening at one point. Side characters can easily have their own thing going on outside of the main cast's adventures.
 
I still refuse to believe they won't have some kind of romantic subplot happening at one point. Side characters can easily have their own thing going on outside of the main cast's adventures.
As I said, I don't wanna complain about what we don't know. They could just as easily not do that. My speculation is based on what little we do know, and I found the change in dynamics (from group of friends roughly the same age to mentor and siblings) curious.

It also might have nothing to do with shipping and more to do with the showrunners wanting to do something different. Someone said that this feels like it has nothing to do with Avatar and I don't disagree: they do seem to be trying to create something that feels different from the other iterations. They did that with Korra, who was probably conceived as Aang's opposite.

Or I might be incredibly wrong and they'll do a soap opera full of nostalgia bait. I'll complain about that when I see it.
 
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