CHAZ/CHOP: Autonomous No Cop Zone and Commune Declared In Seattle - Render unto Warlord Raz what is owed to Warlord Raz

[Pentex]

Seattle Times claimed that Washington's confidential source law gives them the privilege to conceal evidence of Antifa arsons and robberies. A King County judge disagreed and ordered them to comply with a subpoena:

Five news outlets, including The Seattle Times, will have to comply with a subpoena and give the Seattle Police Department unpublished video and photos from a May 30 racial justice protest that turned violent, a judge ruled Thursday.

King County Superior Court Judge Nelson Lee sided with the Police Department in a morning hearing, ruling that its subpoena was enforceable. He found that the photos and video were critical for an investigation into the alleged arson of SPD vehicles and theft of police guns.

Lee ruled that the SPD had met its burden to overcome the shield law: that the images were “highly material and relevant” and “critical or necessary” to prove an issue that has a compelling public interest for its disclosure. Getting the stolen weapons off the street was one compelling public interest, Lee found.

Seems reasonable. Let's get the retarded opinion now.

Seattle Times Executive Editor Michele Matassa Flores said the paper strongly opposes the subpoena and “believes it puts our independence, and even our staff’s physical safety, at risk.”

“The media exist in large part to hold governments, including law enforcement agencies, accountable to the public,” said Matassa Flores. “We don’t work in concert with government, and it’s important to our credibility and effectiveness to retain our independence from those we cover.”

First, you ignorant cunt, 'The Media' exists to peddle paid advertisements and propaganda, full stop. The very fact that you have a trove of 'unpublished' photographs and video that may incriminate people in several felonies is strong circumstantial proof that you willingly engage in the second prong of propaganda: suppression of facts. Second, a subpoena is not working 'in concert with government'; it is a lawful order from a court to produce testimonial or physical evidence for examination by a party in civil or criminal litigation. One can, and usually should, argue that certain subpoenas seek inappropriate or irrelevant information, or that the subpoena should be limited in scope, but to simply say 'we're the media' is garbage. You have no oversight and painfully few legal repercussions for publishing erroneous or outright false information, or, as in this case, SUPPRESSING facts.

Source

The text of the statute, if anybody cares.

 

[AnOminous]

Seattle Times claimed that Washington's confidential source law gives them the privilege to conceal evidence of Antifa arsons and robberies. A King County judge disagreed and ordered them to comply with a subpoena:

Seattle Times Executive Editor Michele Matassa Flores said the paper strongly opposes the subpoena and “believes it puts our independence, and even our staff’s physical safety, at risk.”

Ironically, this is plausible, but why would it put their staff's physical safety at risk? Oh, yeah, because the people they're covering and, frankly, openly supporting, are violent criminals who will in fact fucking attack them if they decide the favorable dick sucking coverage isn't worth the fact the cops are getting all those pictures anyway.

And this supports overcoming the shield law and compelling disclosure, and it is from the mouth of the Times themselves.

Checkmate atheists.

 

[Megaroad 2012]

My city is burning down at the moment.

 

[NoReturn]

My city is burning down at the moment.

Don't doxx yourself, but how close are you? You safe at least?

 

[Myles the Potatophile]

My city is burning down at the moment.

Starbucks always catches shit from all sides no matter what they do, don't they?

 

[Sand]

My city is burning down at the moment.

Video archive:

 

[Megaroad 2012]

Don't doxx yourself, but how close are you? You safe at least?

I'm safe but my job is almost near the heart of the CHAZ. Trying to get coworkers home safely at the moment but corporate doesn't see a need to close up from what it sounds despite the pictures I'm getting.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Starbucks always catches shit from all sides no matter what they do, don't they?

As it should. Starbucks is fucking Trash.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

As it should. Starbucks is fucking Trash.

Yeah well, the people in the apartments upstairs don't deserve it.

 

[soy_king]

Yeah well, the people in the apartments upstairs don't deserve it.

That's just part and parcel about living in a big city.

 

[Tismguide]

I love the smell of coffee in the morning. Smells like victory!

Seattle Times claimed that Washington's confidential source law gives them the privilege to conceal evidence of Antifa arsons and robberies. A King County judge disagreed and ordered them to comply with a subpoena:



Seems reasonable. Let's get the retarded opinion now.



First, you ignorant cunt, 'The Media' exists to peddle paid advertisements and propaganda, full stop. The very fact that you have a trove of 'unpublished' photographs and video that may incriminate people in several felonies is strong circumstantial proof that you willingly engage in the second prong of propaganda: suppression of facts. Second, a subpoena is not working 'in concert with government'; it is a lawful order from a court to produce testimonial or physical evidence for examination by a party in civil or criminal litigation. One can, and usually should, argue that certain subpoenas seek inappropriate or irrelevant information, or that the subpoena should be limited in scope, but to simply say 'we're the media' is garbage. You have no oversight and painfully few legal repercussions for publishing erroneous or outright false information, or, as in this case, SUPPRESSING facts.

Source

The text of the statute, if anybody cares.

Journalists thinking they're above the plebs? Perish the thought!

Seriously though, I suspect the point here is to rack up another propaganda victory of "Authoritarian Trump regime oppresses the media". They're trying to make mountains out of every molehill they can to gish-gallop the election -- federal police arresting people suspected of federal crimes is now "fascist stormtroopers kidnappings", etc.

Has the media always been terrifying commie propaganda and I only noticed when they upped the frog boiling temperature a bit 2010-2015, or is this a new level of bullshit?

Spoiler: Propaganda works

At least in deep blue circles, the propaganda is working wrt "fascist kidnappings". Most people I know are buying it, hook, line, and sinker. These are smart people, people who used to have intelligent critiques of Bush and Obama alike when they shat the bed, with enough of a (lay) understanding of constitutional law that I don't understand how they can get such basic facts wrong. One even actually did leave the country rather than just impotently raging about it on Twitter!

I'm really starting to get scared by how easily controlled they are, and the way they have been programmed to shrug off the cognitive dissonance of their contradictions and contrary facts alike.

 

[Cilleystring]

What's truly amazing and hilarious is that these people just watched CHAZ completely collapse from its own undoing and they're still out here doing the same shit lol

Lab mice have more learning capability than leftist protestors

 

[AnOminous]

At least in deep blue circles, the propaganda is working wrt "fascist kidnappings". Most people I know are buying it, hook, line, and sinker. These are smart people, people who used to have intelligent critiques of Bush and Obama alike when they shat the bed, with enough of a (lay) understanding of constitutional law that I don't understand how they can get such basic facts wrong.

I know and it is driving me fucking nuts, even family I have that were previously Republicans. I've just started ignoring their ravings because all they do is get mad if you ask for the names of anyone "abducted." Holy fuck this is UFO cultist level of stupid.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

Some are buying it, some are just parroting it, some are pushing the narrative. I've noticed there's a recurring terminology going on with a lot of these arguments that means they're either following a script or following the programming they've been imbued with by the script. And while I don't doubt that there are some people legitimately chicken littling over it, I think most of them are just trying to narrative stoke, because of one thing I've noticed in the majority of them, or rather the lack of it:

Fear.

They're not afraid. They're more concerned with "calling out" 2A proponents on not rushing to help them than they are, you know, doing whatever they can to avoid being snatched by the evol sekrit poh-leez. If they really, sincerely thought this was a fascist government crackdown, most of them would be deleting their social media at the very least, and the smarter ones would be trying to flee across the northern border. Instead they're going about their daily routines, just adding "Lecture right-wingers over their lack of principle" to the schedule. These are not the actions of people that think the gestapo is seriously coming for them, they're the actions of lazy provocateurs whose script isn't working out for them.

 

[Meat Target]

Seattle Times claimed that Washington's confidential source law gives them the privilege to conceal evidence of Antifa arsons and robberies. A King County judge disagreed and ordered them to comply with a subpoena:



Seems reasonable. Let's get the retarded opinion now.



First, you ignorant cunt, 'The Media' exists to peddle paid advertisements and propaganda, full stop. The very fact that you have a trove of 'unpublished' photographs and video that may incriminate people in several felonies is strong circumstantial proof that you willingly engage in the second prong of propaganda: suppression of facts. Second, a subpoena is not working 'in concert with government'; it is a lawful order from a court to produce testimonial or physical evidence for examination by a party in civil or criminal litigation. One can, and usually should, argue that certain subpoenas seek inappropriate or irrelevant information, or that the subpoena should be limited in scope, but to simply say 'we're the media' is garbage. You have no oversight and painfully few legal repercussions for publishing erroneous or outright false information, or, as in this case, SUPPRESSING facts.

Source

The text of the statute, if anybody cares.

"OUr SafEtY Is aT RiSK!"

Yeah, I'm sure getting ratio'd on Twitter is LITERALLY VIOLENCE against the poor, put-upon Journalists.

They're not afraid. They're more concerned with "calling out" 2A proponents on not rushing to help them than they are, you know, doing whatever they can to avoid being snatched by the evol sekrit poh-leez. If they really, sincerely thought this was a fascist government crackdown, most of them would be deleting their social media at the very least, and the smarter ones would be trying to flee across the northern border. Instead they're going about their daily routines, just adding "Lecture right-wingers over their lack of principle" to the schedule. These are not the actions of people that think the gestapo is seriously coming for them, they're the actions of lazy provocateurs whose script isn't working out for them.

The Right's self-restraint gives it the moral high ground (for whatever that is worth in the big picture). If we were fascists, we would have had them lined up against the wall years ago.

 

[NoReturn]

Holy fuck this is UFO cultist level of stupid.

What, you didn't hear the news? The head of MUFON was just arrested for soliciting sex from a minor.

 

[Cilleystring]

They're not afraid. They're more concerned with "calling out" 2A proponents on not rushing to help them than they are, you know, doing whatever they can to avoid being snatched by the evol sekrit poh-leez. If they really, sincerely thought this was a fascist government crackdown, most of them would be deleting their social media at the very least, and the smarter ones would be trying to flee across the northern border. Instead they're going about their daily routines, just adding "Lecture right-wingers over their lack of principle" to the schedule. These are not the actions of people that think the gestapo is seriously coming for them, they're the actions of lazy provocateurs whose script isn't working out for them.

Exactly that. The government is so fascist that they allow them to continually psot anti government messages, assemble and protest the government, and wreck cities. Meanwhile they are assaulting people who disagree with them, and getting people fired over different opinions.

They aren't the oppressed, they are the oppressors. A domestic terrorist group taking advantage of a population who is too peaceful and non-violent to stop them.

They should all be sentenced with getting a job and having their internet access limited. I'm sure most would choose the guillotine.

 

[I can't imagine]

"OUr SafEtY Is aT RiSK!"

Yeah, I'm sure getting ratio'd on Twitter is LITERALLY VIOLENCE against the poor, put-upon Journalists.

In fairness, I'd say there's probably some legitimate concern that the Peaceful Protesters might suddenly become less peaceful to journalists if they provided the police with evidence that led to other Peaceful Protestors being arrested for arson or assault or whatever. Y'know, "snitches get stitches" and all that. Though maybe the Peaceful Protesters should've thought of that before bragging to the journos about all the crimes they've been doing, complete with video evidence.

 

[Meat Target]

In fairness, I'd say there's probably some legitimate concern that the Peaceful Protesters might suddenly become less peaceful to journalists if they provided the police with evidence that led to other Peaceful Protestors being arrested for arson or assault or whatever. Y'know, "snitches get stitches" and all that. Though maybe the Peaceful Protesters should've thought of that before bragging to the journos about all the crimes they've been doing, complete with video evidence.

Nah, the journalists are afraid of the (strangely absent) Proud Boys showing up to their houses and killing them. Which has happened to.... how many Journalists now?

They'll still simp for the Peaceful Protesters, even after they get a peaceful brick upside the head.

 

[AnOminous]

In fairness, I'd say there's probably some legitimate concern that the Peaceful Protesters might suddenly become less peaceful to journalists if they provided the police with evidence that led to other Peaceful Protestors being arrested for arson or assault or whatever. Y'know, "snitches get stitches" and all that. Though maybe the Peaceful Protesters should've thought of that before bragging to the journos about all the crimes they've been doing, complete with video evidence.

Pretty much fuck everyone involved. If they get ganked by the scumbags they've been pimping to the country as "peaceful" that's their own problem.

Nah, the journalists are afraid of the (strangely absent) Proud Boys showing up to their houses and killing them.

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That's not what they're claiming though. They're claiming if they have to turn over evidence to the cops, that puts them in danger. Proud Boys can show up any time anyway.