Burned Docs Chemistry Class 15JUN2014

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Marvin said:
Heh, that's more because honor roll is bullshit, than anything about the US.
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Bullshit is a strong word. It is what it is. Basically it means you are performing acceptably in school. Not everyone gets it, but it is probably more useful as a warning for kids not on it than a mark of distinction for kids on it. There are usually other prizes/distinctions for kids who are at the top of the class.

How should you use it to judge Chris academic career. In terms of effort, it means he showed up and put the required effort in for major assignments and tests. In terms of ability, it means he was able to follow along to a reasonable level in his classes, some of which were special ed, some of which weren't. I suppose whether or not that should change your view of him depends on how much you endorse the view "Chris is so lazy and stupid he can't and won't ever do anything". If you are on the extreme end of endorsing that view, then honor roll goes a little against your view. On the other hand it doesn't prove that Chris was a motivated or intelligent student, just that he wasn't spectacularly unmotivated or incompetent.
 
Marvin said:
Oh definitely. My roommate and I are looking to get a creepy lawn gnome to put in the bathroom, so it'll watch you while you shit. But the sonichu totem would do just as well.


Heh, that's more because honor roll is bullshit, than anything about the US.
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That is really sad, because back when I was in school, honor roll actually counted for something even though my school was the one in the district where all the Sped kids went to.
 
Well, I guess my problem with honor roll is that it doesn't distinguish what classes you took to get it. At my high school, you had tons of leeway in what classes you took. I really enjoyed myself in high school (and I'm glad that I had the opportunity to do so), by taking lots of really easy classes where I just futzed around all day on the internet with my immature friends. (It seems not much has changed...)

I didn't get honor roll (I don't think so, anyway), but if I really cared to, I could've gotten it easily. In my school, honor roll was a B average. That's 80%+, on average. Which is trivial to get when you're taking programming classes and typing. Oh, and I took german, which was just hanging out with the intersection of my goth friends and my gamer friends.

So, my thing with honor roll is that there would be people like me, standing next to the people who got honor roll by getting good grades in stuff like English 3.
 
Really though, for those who get honor roll, does it even legitimately mean anything after you graduate? Or nah?
 
No Haggle said:
Really though, for those who get honor roll, does it even legitimately mean anything after you graduate? Or nah?
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Pretty much nothing. All it does is help you get into another school later on. Good high school grades can help you get scholarships, but they're forgotten as soon as you are officially in college. Jobs don't care about your honor roll status in high school. Heck, they don't even care about your GPA in college- I've had multiple people attest to this. Sure, saying that you graduated cum laude or summa cum laude (or above) looks nice, but they want to ensure that you can actually do the job and good grades do not always mean that you are actually able to do the job as well as a student who didn't graduate with honors.
 
Will we ever know what room these came from? If they came from another room (say a filing cabinet), it may indicate that the Chris room may still be unrecoverable, and that the Relics are destroyed. Chris managed to recover his LEGOs before he left the house, and they were already starting to melt.
 
No Haggle said:
Really though, for those who get honor roll, does it even legitimately mean anything after you graduate? Or nah?
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As you're leaving highschool and going off to university/college, being on honor roll might help you qualify for certain scholarships. But as long as you meet the minimum GPA entry requirement for whatever university you're applying for, you're good. Honor roll doesn't get you special treatment or nothing, it's just something they like selling when you're in highschool... As for jobs? Yeah, nobody gives a damn if you were in honor roll or not, what they care about is that you're competent and qualified.
 
Honor roll by itself doesn't mean too much, at least from my High School. You got a chord for it at graduation but other than having good grades for college it doesn't help you like AP or IB classes.
I don't know how other schools were set up but at my High School classes were set apart into four groups.
You had your regular classes. Average kids, laid back teacher (sometimes TOO laid back) and easy assignments. Work was hardly corrected as long as you filled it out. It was mostly book work or fill in the blanks. Easy to pass as long as you turned assignments in. I'm assuming these were the classes Chris was in.
Next was Honor classes which had nothing to do with honor roll. It was a step up for kids who wanted to learn more or were more serious about school and didn't want to share classes with the kids who were just there because they had to be (I was one of those people). The teachers here would get on your case for talking or sleeping in class, however because the kids in these classes were more well behaved, it usually never happened. It was generally more work and faster paced. Tests were the core of your grade, not the assignments so studying was a must. Many classes were actually much like college classes with a couple teachers lecturing the whole time and you had to create your own notes. I always took these classes if I wasn't taking an AP class.
AP. Top of the food chain, extreme amount of work, insane amounts of studying and college credit if you passed the final test of the year. I only took AP classes in subjects I knew I was good in or liked the teacher. These are classes colleges like to see on high school transcripts and prepare you for a rigorous college path.
The hardest was the IB program. I don't know much about these other than you had to apply to the program and get accepted. Every class taken usually HAD to be IB and to get the diploma for it there was service work and a huge essay required. All I know is it was insane. It was for kids looking to get into the best colleges in the world.

Like Marvin said, honor roll can be acquired in any of these classes which is kinda bullshit. Listed next to kids who picked their nose but turned in their assignments in regular classes were IB/AP kids who only sleep every three days from the work.

The issue here is we're seeing Chris taking regular if not slightly behind classes and still not getting grades to achieve honor roll. Pointed out in the earlier thread, most if not all the work looks like the attitude of the teachers going "well he did something so I'll at least pass him". The more that's uncovered the more honor roll is looking to be a lie Chris was told or something he came up with and holds on to this day.

tl;dr: No. It doesn't mean anything after High School.
 
No Haggle said:
Really though, for those who get honor roll, does it even legitimately mean anything after you graduate? Or nah?
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As others have pointed out, "no".

"Honor Roll" is just one of a number of various distinctions you can graduate high school with. It's right up there with "Perfect Attendance" in terms of how trivial it is, but it still serves a purpose in qualifying for grants for higher education. It means exactly nothing once you enter college; think of it like a one-time use boon for leveraging yourself financial aid. High school is a four year period where, if you're serious about your future, you can amass these little trinkets (Student Council, 4H, Future Teachers of America, National Junior Honors Society, JROTC, University Scholastic League, etc) to pad out your first resume. Generally, once you have more experience in your field you drop all of these things from your resume unless they are explicitly relevant to the job you want (i.e. getting first place in a UIL Computer Science event and you're applying to be a programmer).

Since Chris never moved beyond high school he carries these trivial accolades with him because in the grand scope of things, they literally are his biggest accomplishments. To us, accomplishments in high school are forgotten relics of our pasts because in the interim we've taken SAT's, gone to college, received awards at work, etc. Chris has none of that. For over a decade following high school he's obtained a degree that appears to have as much credibility as a diploma mill.
 
Fuzzy Wuzzy said:
The average career counselor in a community college would go Gordon Ramsey on his resume. A university career
counselor would go Masaharu Morimoto on it.
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Is that a comment on restraint and precission? I haven't watched Iron Chef in years.
 
Picklechu said:
I'm pretty sure he still has The Ring. He's been photographed with it on if I'm not mistaken.


Don't forget the panty-flashing whale, the communist tranny that targets straight people, and the Golden Douchecanoe! *yawn*
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Would the Parkour Killer target Muslims, kidnap them, and then torture them to death trying to "interrogate" them?
 
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I went to school in a backwater redneck town. Funny thing is, we had 'Honor Roll', and we also had 'Honorable Mention'. And yes, it was way too easy to get Honorable Mention. As for Honor Roll, like it's said, it's not certain what classes were taken to achieve that, but I can safely say there were only a couple of people in my class that really did do the to get there. Not so much for the rest.
 
butt in trouble said:
Is Sonichu smoking a cigar or pooping out of his mouth?
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It's not Sonichu. Look at how small the ears are. Gotta be Sonic. I guess while he still liked his newest creation quite a bit he still preferred to plaster Sonic on his work. Maybe Sonichu didn't really take off for him until he was sitting around after graduation.

Of course I say it's supposed to be Sonic, but that huge nose makes it look more line an anteater.
 
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