Chris and Goosebumps

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Okay just to clarify, does he STILL reads this books?

I dont think he reads any kind of books now a days.

The only reading he does on a regular basis are the set up menus for his consoles and the storyline of the games he plays poorly.

He seems to like to point out that he readed those books then just to prove that he is literate and did somenthing regarded as intelectual(for a child) back in the day, in his high school where he was not allowed to bring his vidya.

I think Chris has not read a book, of any sort in years. The last one being the bio of Pamela Anderson 7+ years ago.
 
He seemed to like the books well enough to be gifted a Fear Street one by one of his gal pals on his (18th?) birthday. Then again she probably just found it in a bargain bin and knowing he'd like anything from her, gave him that.
 
Satoru182 said:
Okay just to clarify, does he STILL reads this books?

I dont think he reads any kind of books now a days.

The only reading he does on a regular basis are the set up menus for his consoles and the storyline of the games he plays poorly.

He seems to like to point out that he readed those books then just to prove that he is literate and did somenthing regarded as intelectual(for a child) back in the day, in his high school where he was not allowed to bring his vidya.

I think Chris has not read a book, of any sort in years. The last one being the bio of Pamela Anderson 7+ years ago.
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I think that's highly possible as well. He may just have copy-pasted the previous entries on his OKCupid profile, and hell, he might have been scraping the bottom of his mind for any book titles just to do that.
 
HerebeDragons said:
Also, I find it weird that Chris has enough of a sense that Goosebumps is not acceptable reading material for adults to lie about it in the Father Call, but still lists it on his OKCupid profile, where he is presumably trying to impress women.
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He scrawls sonichu on his resume and wonders why he never got a job either. He is currently live posting his pokemans game to his former classmates. Chris has no idea that his entire spectrum of interests is not normal for his age.
 
HerebeDragons said:
In response to a few folks, I'm not new here, and I don't find it the worst aspect of Chris' personality by far, just thought it might be fun to discuss and didn't see a thread for it. I do, in some ways, find it upsetting I guess, maybe because books have been such a formative part of my life and the lives of my family and friends. I honestly can't picture reading the same books throughout my life, especially when they're such pallid, cookie-cutter examples of literature. I did love Goosebumps at like 11 or 12, and the Fear Street books too, but then I grew up. I think it's just WEIRD to me that he'd read books like this, and never even consider moving on to more adult literature. Sure, some of the point is (for Chris) they are so formulaic and easy to understand, but fuck, so's John Saul, and he'd at least get some decent gore (the "Saw" movies, anyone?) and the possibility of sex scenes, which you'd think for Chris would be a big plus.
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I could go on saying that he's never been challenged at anything and this is why but I think a much simpler answer is that due to his autism he doesn't want to change.

Those with autism have a tendency to want to stay with things they like whether it be food, entertainment or clothes. It's familiar to them and they rarely want to change. So he's going to stick with Goosebumps, Sonic the Hedgehog and everything else that matters in his life because it's what he knows and it's what makes him feel "normal".
 
Chris' Autism has him abide to rigorous patterns. It would've been up to professionals to help him make adjustment and transitions to age-appropriate activities, but seeing as how he was "mainstreamed" and the all-around acceptance that Chris could do make no significant improvements (lets face it, this does have merit) precluded that.
 
The books are short, predictable, contain a limited vocabulary, and there's a lot of them so he can feel smart reading a large amount of them.

Basic formula for all Goosebumps novels:

GOOSEBUMPS: It Came From Branchland Court

CHAPTER 1

"That's the old Chandler place," said Clyde, smiling at me.
"So?" I said, brushing my blonde hair out of my eyes.
"So?" he laughed, and looked at the other kids. "The new girl doesn't know the legend of Branchland Court!"
I crossed my arms. "It just looks like an old dump."
"It is. And yet it's more than that. It's... haunted!"
Just then, I felt a hand on my shoulder.
"Stop trying to scare me, Clyde," I said, rolling my eyes.
But Clyde and his friends were backing away.
"OH MY GOD," cried BILLY MAYS.
I turned, and screamed...

CHAPTER 2

It was an old man. He had a scowl on his face, and was wearing a Confederate flag t-shirt.
"What do yew want?" he rasped.
"I just - we wanted to-"
"You one o' them damn kids from the internet?" he rasped.
I looked at Clyde and the other kids, but they were on the run.
"What are your friends' names?" the old man rasped. "I'm gonna call the cops. Disturbin' the peace."
"They said this place is haunted."
The old man's face slackened. He smiled a wide, yellow, sharp-toothed smile. A bug crawled out of his nose,
and worked its way into his mouth. "Who said it wuddint?"
I SCREAMED...

And so on and so forth. This makes me want to write a Goosebumps Chris novel.

Incidentally, all of R.L. Stein's "Adult Fiction" is written the exact same way, except with 100% more tits. Maybe Chris should check them out.
 
I agree with some of the amusement at the Goosebumps.

A lot of people don't read books on any regular basis. Chris is not alone here.

To me, the amusing part is that he lists it on places like OkCupid to this day. A normal person knows Goosebumps is not the sort of thing that will attract anything but bemusement. Most people in his position would either say something like "I am not a big reader" or list a couple books they kind of liked in high school or college.

In the father call he had the sense to do that. Butchered it a little bit, but mentioned To Kill a Mockingbird, and indicated he had read Of Mice and Men. Either of those books would be perfectly normal to list as favourites. He somehow lost that bit of common sense in other places.
 
timtommy said:
In the father call he had the sense to do that. Butchered it a little bit, but mentioned To Kill a Mockingbird, and indicated he had read Of Mice and Men. Either of those books would be perfectly normal to list as favourites. He somehow lost that bit of common sense in other places.
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The thing about those books is that they're examples of classic literature, and Chris could have easily just pulled them out of his ass to look smart. I'm not doubting he actually read them at some point, it's just kinda sad that he couldn't come up with anything less staple to name.
 
CatParty said:
Chris is a child
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This really can't be overstated. Almost all of Chris's weirdness is only weird because he's an adult. Think of him and treat him like a child, and he makes sense. Which is sad in itself, since he's not retarded in the strictest sense of the word.
 
R.A.E.L. said:
timtommy said:
In the father call he had the sense to do that. Butchered it a little bit, but mentioned To Kill a Mockingbird, and indicated he had read Of Mice and Men. Either of those books would be perfectly normal to list as favourites. He somehow lost that bit of common sense in other places.
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The thing about those books is that they're examples of classic literature, and Chris could have easily just pulled them out of his ass to look smart. I'm doubting he actually read them, it's just kinda sad that he couldn't come up with anything less staple to name.
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Exactly. He wanted to sound smart, so he picked a well-known classic. I doubt he read it.
 
bradsternum said:
R.A.E.L. said:
timtommy said:
In the father call he had the sense to do that. Butchered it a little bit, but mentioned To Kill a Mockingbird, and indicated he had read Of Mice and Men. Either of those books would be perfectly normal to list as favourites. He somehow lost that bit of common sense in other places.
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The thing about those books is that they're examples of classic literature, and Chris could have easily just pulled them out of his ass to look smart. I'm doubting he actually read them, it's just kinda sad that he couldn't come up with anything less staple to name.
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Exactly. He wanted to sound smart, so he picked a well-known classic. I doubt he read it.
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I'm pretty sure he read Of Mice and Men.
 
Truth be told, I can't fault Chris too much for not reading more, at least reading fiction. Fiction requires abstract thought and suspension of disbelief, two things the Tism make difficult (if not impossible) for Chris. Given how he already has trouble differentiating fantasy from reality (ie, Cartman/Peter Griffen as role models) I don't think reading adult literature would be automatically beneficial for him.

Non-fiction is another story, though. Some well-written history or biography texts could really help him stretch his mind... if he were willing to try.
 
This is also interesting to note:

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bungholio said:
He doesn't like change. He'd watch "Adventures Of Sonic The Hedgehog" if it were still on.
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I wonder if that's what all those VHS tapes are that are in his room.
 
R.A.E.L. said:
timtommy said:
In the father call he had the sense to do that. Butchered it a little bit, but mentioned To Kill a Mockingbird, and indicated he had read Of Mice and Men. Either of those books would be perfectly normal to list as favourites. He somehow lost that bit of common sense in other places.
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The thing about those books is that they're examples of classic literature, and Chris could have easily just pulled them out of his ass to look smart. I'm not doubting he actually read them at some point, it's just kinda sad that he couldn't come up with anything less staple to name.
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They are classics because a lot of people like them. To judge someone negatively for reading them or liking them seems to me the height of pretension.

Also, when someone brings up books, I think it is quite logical to pick a classic that the other person is likely to have read as well. It is much more likely to start an interesting conversation than bringing up something really obscure. Except for confusing Of Mice and Men and To Kill a Mockingbird, I think Chris played the Father Call exactly right. It is one occasion where he used social conventions over his own weird instincts. I think we all agree he should do it more.

As for books, I am surprised he never got into Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings. (I know about the stupid Pokemon explanation). It should have been ideal for him
a) Accessible prose and plot.
b) Movies, video games, and lots of extra merchandise to collect
c) It would actually be something he could talk about with a large proportion of people his age, without losing their respect.

I know the traditional explanations for him not doing it. He is stuck at an age a couple years too young for them. But it just seems so obvious.
 
When has Lord of the Rings been easy to get into? Yeah I know, the movies, but the books are full of archaic language and such a branching amount of lore (To this day I'm still confused at what exactly all the elves were up to) that it's hard to just pick up and get into.
 
timtommy said:
R.A.E.L. said:
timtommy said:
In the father call he had the sense to do that. Butchered it a little bit, but mentioned To Kill a Mockingbird, and indicated he had read Of Mice and Men. Either of those books would be perfectly normal to list as favourites. He somehow lost that bit of common sense in other places.
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The thing about those books is that they're examples of classic literature, and Chris could have easily just pulled them out of his ass to look smart. I'm not doubting he actually read them at some point, it's just kinda sad that he couldn't come up with anything less staple to name.
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They are classics because a lot of people like them. To judge someone negatively for reading them or liking them seems to me the height of pretension.
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Which is what I'm saying, they're easy to identify. I think you're misunderstanding here - I'm not judging him even if he really does like the books, I'm judging him for who he is. :stupid:
 
Satoru182 said:
the storyline of the games he plays poorly.
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He probably doesn't even really do that. If there's voice acting, he probably just listens and ignores the subtitles. If there isn't any voice acting, then likely he just skims or ignores everything but the conversations he assumes advance the plot. And even then he still probably isn't very thorough about it.

timtommy said:
As for books, I am surprised he never got into Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings. (I know about the stupid Pokemon explanation).
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Harry Potter is way more advanced than Goosebumps. A larger vocabulary and a significantly larger adventure in a foreign country. It was obviously way too much for Chris to comprehend and handle. He can use the "it stole the limelight away from Pokemon" excuse all he wants, the fact is Harry Potter is far above his comprehension, which is why he never even got into the movies.
 
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