Chris's GameStop Assault - What happened? Why? How?

[Uzumaki]

"And, I HAD tried the stuff on myself days before in the upstairs bathroom."

Edit: Also, yeah, I can confirm myself that he tested it beforehand.

Note to self: stop giving Chris the benefit of the doubt.

 

[The German]

It was clearly premeditated to at least some degree - he had the can of mace in his hand ready to go. Maybe he only thought to pull it out a moment prior when he noticed he had been caught vandalizing, but he didn't scramble to pull it out when he saw guys coming at him. He was ready to attack before being attacked.

Even if it was premeditated it does not necessarily mean jail time. Tards have a different legal system.
It's treatment at a housing facility. Almost a half way home but much more secure.
Virginia especially likes to use this . It's basically one step above hospitalization for mental patients who commit crimes and it "treats" them.
I used to work in a place called camelot schools and we had many clients from VA. In my case it was teenagers who were sent there instead of Juvenal hall. From what I've seen from him, his behavior is on par with several of the clients I dealt with, and many of them had far more severe crimes than him and less issues.

The severity of the crime merely changes the placement within the system.
He's not at the level where he'd be committed to a full treatment i.e: hospitalization.
He'd be placed at a housed treatment facility much like the one I worked at. Basically this would mean a structured environment where he would receive treatment, medicine, and various other things.
Social interaction would be limited to other people in the unit, except for group events with other units, or off-site trips. All under supervision of course.
"Clients" who have "incidents" are dealt with very differently. There are 3 types of restraint types. Hard, soft, and physical.
Hard is restraints using outside means, like straps.
Soft is medication. The funny juice.
Physical is two burly black guys holding you down while a therapist talks you down.

In the placement he'd be in it would be limited to physical restraints.

He wouldn't see a padded cell though. Most facilities that still use them are using a electric lock. Basically they have to hold down a button on the wall to keep it locked. If you let go it unlocks.

Some of the stuff tards committed that I've worked with.

Spoiler

Kid who picked up older men on xbox live and sent cp of himself to strangers.
Kid who broke some guys arm at target because he wouldn't let him sleep.
Kid who raped his sister.
Theft and vandalism. So much of it.
Kid stabbed teacher in eye with pencil, AND pushed a nurse into traffic because they wouldn't let her kill herself. The nurse died. She was 52, had 2 kids and 3 grandchildren.
Several other rapists. We had many...
Kid who attacked a cop. (He also broke 2 of my ribs when he tried to kill me)
Kid who violently attacked anyone whom he thought wronged him. (He also heard voices... Didn't help.)
And my favorite. Kid who killed his grandmother. Because he didn't get the toy he wanted from her for xmas.
No jail because they are retarded.

 

[Optimus Prime]

He'd be placed at a housed treatment facility much like the one I worked at. Basically this would mean a structured environment where he would receive treatment, medicine, and various other things.
Social interaction would be limited to other people in the unit, except for group events with other units, or off-site trips. All under supervision of course.

Frankly, that sounds precisely like the kind of thing Chris has needed for his entire life. The one force in his life that's dictated how he defines himself, the only force, is Barb. Really, above all else, Chris is only ever going to actually have a chance of being a better person when he's forced to be pretty much cut off from her tyranny and has to follow the directions of other adults over a long period of time so that they define his world and not her.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Oh my god. That's horrible. I can't imagine dealing with that day in and day out.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Some of the stuff tards committed that I've worked with.

Sounds like this sort of house would be just as torturous in his perspective as jail would be.

 

[CWCissey]

Sounds like this sort of house would be just as torturous in his perspective as jail would be.

Anything that means Chris is given structure that's not Lego, fetch Q-Sands, get bitched at by Barb, two minute hate against the Blue armed bandit, video games and sleep would be torturous to him.

 

[The German]

Sounds like this sort of house would be just as torturous in his perspective as jail would be.

For him it would be. He'd have to seriously readjust his behavior or he'll be on the ground most of the day.
The staff deals with enough shit already, they won't give him an inch. And if he is with the staff that I worked with they'll try to piss him off on purpose.

 

[Uzumaki]

Sounds like this sort of house would be just as torturous in his perspective as jail would be.

There really isn't a living situation that could realistically exist on Earth that he wouldn't hate.

 

[Mogambo]

Even if it was premeditated it does not necessarily mean jail time. Tards have a different legal system.
It's treatment at a housing facility. Almost a half way home but much more secure.
Virginia especially likes to use this . It's basically one step above hospitalization for mental patients who commit crimes and it "treats" them.
I used to work in a place called camelot schools and we had many clients from VA. In my case it was teenagers who were sent there instead of Juvenal hall. From what I've seen from him, his behavior is on par with several of the clients I dealt with, and many of them had far more severe crimes than him and less issues.

The severity of the crime merely changes the placement within the system.
He's not at the level where he'd be committed to a full treatment i.e: hospitalization.
He'd be placed at a housed treatment facility much like the one I worked at. Basically this would mean a structured environment where he would receive treatment, medicine, and various other things.
Social interaction would be limited to other people in the unit, except for group events with other units, or off-site trips. All under supervision of course.
"Clients" who have "incidents" are dealt with very differently. There are 3 types of restraint types. Hard, soft, and physical.
Hard is restraints using outside means, like straps.
Soft is medication. The funny juice.
Physical is two burly black guys holding you down while a therapist talks you down.

In the placement he'd be in it would be limited to physical restraints.

He wouldn't see a padded cell though. Most facilities that still use them are using a electric lock. Basically they have to hold down a button on the wall to keep it locked. If you let go it unlocks.

Some of the stuff tards committed that I've worked with.

Spoiler

Kid who picked up older men on xbox live and sent cp of himself to strangers.
Kid who broke some guys arm at target because he wouldn't let him sleep.
Kid who raped his sister.
Theft and vandalism. So much of it.
Kid stabbed teacher in eye with pencil, AND pushed a nurse into traffic because they wouldn't let her kill herself. The nurse died. She was 52, had 2 kids and 3 grandchildren.
Several other rapists. We had many...
Kid who attacked a cop. (He also broke 2 of my ribs when he tried to kill me)
Kid who violently attacked anyone whom he thought wronged him. (He also heard voices... Didn't help.)
And my favorite. Kid who killed his grandmother. Because he didn't get the toy he wanted from her for xmas.
No jail because they are retarded.

Murderers and rapists? That's far worse than ANYTHING Chris has everdone. Honestly, if they are that retarded, one wonders why they aren't just euthanized. No great loss to society considering they are ducking murderersand rapists!

 

[Kosher Dill]

Info about housing facilities

Do these places exist for adults too, or only juveniles?

 

[Stud2Stud]

Physical is two burly black guys holding you down while a therapist talks you down.

Chris adventure started with being held down to record his screams and it will end with him being held down to record his screams.

I see the ursine deity is fond of irony.

 

[Lysistrata]

Some of the stuff tards committed that I've worked with.

Spoiler

Kid who picked up older men on xbox live and sent cp of himself to strangers.
Kid who broke some guys arm at target because he wouldn't let him sleep.
Kid who raped his sister.
Theft and vandalism. So much of it.
Kid stabbed teacher in eye with pencil, AND pushed a nurse into traffic because they wouldn't let her kill herself. The nurse died. She was 52, had 2 kids and 3 grandchildren.
Several other rapists. We had many...
Kid who attacked a cop. (He also broke 2 of my ribs when he tried to kill me)
Kid who violently attacked anyone whom he thought wronged him. (He also heard voices... Didn't help.)
And my favorite. Kid who killed his grandmother. Because he didn't get the toy he wanted from her for xmas.
No jail because they are retarded.

As beneficial to society and perhaps to himself putting Chris in a place like this for a nice long spell would be, I'm doubtful he'll end up there. Purely because his crimes seem to be so much less severe than any of the others you mentioned, and he's physically an adult, although the law will be aware of his condition, and he'll make his mental age very obvious (by committing public slander in the courtroom, for example).

 

[Bernd Lauert]

That's an interesting question - is Chris retarded enough to qualify for the treatment at a housing facility?
Most people here, myself included, would probably answer "yes" because we have watched the monkey dance for a long time and could go on for hours about the stupid, insane, idiotic stuff Fatty has done.

However, there won't be any Christorians deciding his eventual fate.
Officially, Chris is an adult with a driver's license who knows his own name and the name of the president. Yes, he's gullible, naive, talks like an idiot, dresses like a clown and is severely uneducated about pretty much everything. Does that make him retarded enough?
On the surface, the above description would fit a lot of trashy rednecks, gangstas, lowlifes and punks. I mean, people who hold up liquor stores also aren't the smartest guys in the world and have a lot of stupid life decisions to their names (and I've seen a lot of lowlifes dressed in garish attire, too). That doesn't stop the law from putting them away, does it?

Stupid isn't the same as retarded.
There's a German term which could apply here: "Persilschein". It's an expression meaning some sort of official document which attests that you are uneligible for the draft, can't be tried as a common criminal, apply for special aid benefits etc. Pretty much like a real, on-paper "autism card".
I'd say that's what Chris needs. Maybe the atsimu papers would serve - oh, wait, they're a pile of ash now.

Bell played the autsim card in court and it held up. It'd be very helpful to know what the mandatory psych evaluation has to say about Chris. If that makes him out as a retard, his assault has proven that he's too dangerous to be on his own and the housing facility seems very realistic. If the evaluation puts him down as stupid but "healthy", he just might be headed for the big house.

 

[Marvin]

Bell played the autsim card in court and it held up. It'd be very helpful to know what the mandatory psych evaluation has to say about Chris. If that makes him out as a exceptional individual, his assault has proven that he's too dangerous to be on his own and the housing facility seems very realistic. If the evaluation puts him down as stupid but "healthy", he just might be headed for the big house.

Bell didn't play the autism card in any official capacity. It was more of a play for sympathy. Chris doesn't have any official categorization that keeps him from being tried like any normal person.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Bell didn't play the autism card in any official capacity. It was more of a play for sympathy. Chris doesn't have any official categorization that keeps him from being tried like any normal person.

Thanks for the clarification.
I was referring to Bell calling Fatty an adult child. I am under the impression that this "play for sympathy" really worked out for Chris, hence the rather lenient verdict.
Maybe the psych evaluation was a direct result of that play, to either cement the "adult child" thing or disallow it for future occasion?
If Fatty tried to appear as normal as possible during that evaluation, he really might have shot himself in the foot there...

 

[Marvin]

Thanks for the clarification.
I was referring to Bell calling Fatty an adult child. I am under the impression that this "play for sympathy" really worked out for Chris, hence the rather lenient verdict.
Maybe the psych evaluation was a direct result of that play, to either cement the "adult child" thing or disallow it for future occasion?
If Fatty tried to appear as normal as possible during that evaluation, he really might have shot himself in the foot there...

Yeah, I think it was a combination of pity and Snyder wanting the state to go easy on Chris and Barb that got them the plea deal.

The psych evaluation was to determine if Chris was a danger to himself or others. They determined that he was OK. (OK enough to be let go, anyway.)

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Well, guess they were wrong then.

But then, with an official evaluation claiming that Fatty is OK, wouldn't that make him getting treatment at a housing facility less likely?

If his violent tendencies are not due to any identifiable psychopathologic disorder, wouldn't that make Chris just another dumb hoodlum?

 

[Atlas 95]

Well, guess they were wrong then.

But then, with an official evaluation claiming that Fatty is OK, wouldn't that make him getting treatment at a housing facility less likely?

If his violent tendencies are not due to any identifiable psychopathologic disorder, wouldn't that make Chris just another dumb hoodlum?

That assessment was three years ago, Chris has got a lot worse since then. If nothing else his incredibly obvious gender and anger issues have really come to the fore in the last few years, and someone trespassing to protest a cartoon character is obviously not mentally well

 

[Male Idiot]

Yeah, I think it was a combination of pity and Snyder wanting the state to go easy on Chris and Barb that got them the plea deal.

The psych evaluation was to determine if Chris was a danger to himself or others. They determined that he was OK. (OK enough to be let go, anyway.)

Remember that happened earlier when he was a bit less unhinged.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

Court-ordered psychological evaluations are generally limited to the scope of the court order. If all the court wanted to know is "Is Chris capable of understanding the trial process?" then that is likely to be all the evaluators would have reported on.