Chris's Memory

[Niachu]

As far as I understand, your diet doesn't have much of an impact on acne. Like, there have always been rumors about sugar or chocolate, but I don't think there's any good evidence to support things like that.

I know mcdonalds isn't good for you, but probably mostly because people don't exercise enough and get fat. And weight complicates a whole bunch of other problems. But I'm curious about what if you worked your ass off. I'm thinking, as far as serious health problems go, it'd come down to cholesterol. So I'm wondering how exercise affects cholesterol. Like, not all dietary cholesterol becomes body cholesterol.

And yeah, missing some nutrients would be bad, but you could eat food that's a lot less shitty than mcdonalds and have the exact same problem.

A high glycemic diet worsens acne, though the grease thing isn't as substantiated (you're worse off using greasy skin care products). The thing about high fat diets and cholesterol is that, especially in men, it builds up over the years even if you work your ass off. People live longer on low-meat diets in that sense. There's no good fat/cholesterol in McDonalds like there would be in, say, walnuts, avocados or eggs.

As for the missing nutrients thing, yes? I mean if you eat nothing but spinach you'll get your iron but you won't get your protein. If you want to get all your nutrients then eat a balanced diet. McDonalds once or twice a month won't kill you but for godssakes don't live off it.

 

[QI 541]

McDonalds once or twice a month won't kill you but for godssakes don't live off it.

McDonalds 30 90 times a month, 5000 calories a day, won't kill you either, but it comes pretty close.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me

 

[Raiken]

I think the problem is that Chris has a shitty short term memory.
I still remember that he faked having a girlfriend(I think he called her cloé or something) to get the trolls off his back, and not even a month later he does not even remember what people are talking about.

 

[champthom]

Chris seems to remember weird stuff, like there was an instance where Chris brought up "Max"s" death and I remember various people on PVCC were like "WTF?" and we went over the audio and it turns out Clyde pretended to kill Max in some audio but we never thought much of it but Chris seemed to remember that. Chris probably has a good memory, it's just that it's selective that he tends to remember weird things that no one else seems to remember but seems to "forget" things like "JULAY!" and that sort of thing.

 

[Hyperion]

Chris seems to remember weird stuff, like there was an instance where Chris brought up "Max"s" death and I remember various people on PVCC were like "WTF?" and we went over the audio and it turns out Clyde pretended to kill Max in some audio but we never thought much of it but Chris seemed to remember that. Chris probably has a good memory, it's just that it's selective that he tends to remember weird things that no one else seems to remember but seems to "forget" things like "JULAY!" and that sort of thing.

As someone who remembers odd things (I remember almost anything)

Sometimes our recollections can seem odd.

 

[QI 541]

Chris seems to remember weird stuff, like there was an instance where Chris brought up "Max"s" death and I remember various people on PVCC were like "WTF?" and we went over the audio and it turns out Clyde pretended to kill Max in some audio but we never thought much of it but Chris seemed to remember that. Chris probably has a good memory, it's just that it's selective that he tends to remember weird things that no one else seems to remember but seems to "forget" things like "JULAY!" and that sort of thing.

It's not that weird if Chris believed he was really witnessing a murder.

 

[CatParty]

Chris seems to remember weird stuff, like there was an instance where Chris brought up "Max"s" death and I remember various people on PVCC were like "WTF?" and we went over the audio and it turns out Clyde pretended to kill Max in some audio but we never thought much of it but Chris seemed to remember that. Chris probably has a good memory, it's just that it's selective that he tends to remember weird things that no one else seems to remember but seems to "forget" things like "JULAY!" and that sort of thing.

It's not that weird if Chris believed he was really witnessing a murder.

even less weird that he did nothing about it.

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

Now, I know from the perspective of energy, it's impossible to gain weight if you burn more calories than you consume. So I'm wondering (I don't know anything about nutrition), if you're losing weight, maybe through exercise, how that affects your cholesterol and other aspects of your health. Like, what if you're living off of mcdonalds, but still exercising and losing or at least maintaining weight, how is your health in general? I'm curious.

I saw an article a while back about a guy who ate Big Macs every day for years and his health was fine. He only had the sandwich itself, no fries or soda or anything, but I believe it was at least a Big Mac a day. The whole point of the article was basically "How the fuck is this guy still ok?" I'll see if I can dig it up.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Here's the thing: Chris believes so strongly that whatever he desires to be true is as good as what is true. This affects current happenings, like when someone tells him he needs to change his clothes or whatever to get a girl, he'll decide that he wants to stay the way he is and still get a girl, and to him that just makes it "real".

This tendency affects his memory of the past, too - the way he wants things to have taken place essentially take priority over the way things happened. This is how he so easily tells himself bullshit like Megan and whoever else are troll leaders just because they don't give him whatever he wants. Since he's pushing around and muddling up so many memories of things he wants to rewrite, the stuff he doesn't care to think about on a daily basis just gets jumbled up and sinks into the sands of time.

 

[Yawning Squirtle]

Now, I know from the perspective of energy, it's impossible to gain weight if you burn more calories than you consume. So I'm wondering (I don't know anything about nutrition), if you're losing weight, maybe through exercise, how that affects your cholesterol and other aspects of your health. Like, what if you're living off of mcdonalds, but still exercising and losing or at least maintaining weight, how is your health in general? I'm curious.

I saw an article a while back about a guy who ate Big Macs every day for years and his health was fine. He only had the sandwich itself, no fries or soda or anything, but I believe it was at least a Big Mac a day. The whole point of the article was basically "How the fuck is this guy still ok?" I'll see if I can dig it up.

Well, scientists are always wondering about Ozzy, Lemmy and Keith Richards, cos they should've been dead long ago.

I remember on that Lemmy movie, he made some blood tests and they all came back OK (this is a guy that abused every drug there is, and still drinks a bottle of Jack Daniels a day and God knows how many Marlboro packs he smokes daily).

So yeah, you can be some kind of superman in that sense. But it's just a small percentage of us humans.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I'm convinced if you slip into an abusive lifestlye gradually enough, the poisons you put in your body (be they drugs, alcohol, nicotine, food additives, etc.) end up being a kind of preservative. Your body basically pickles itself, and while it will probably never again be healthy, it can maintain equilibrium in its pickled state for very long periods of time.

 

[CatParty]

I'm convinced if you slip into an abusive lifestlye gradually enough, the poisons you put in your body (be they drugs, alcohol, nicotine, food additives, etc.) end up being a kind of preservative. Your body basically pickles itself, and while it will probably never again be healthy, it can maintain equilibrium in its pickled state for very long periods of time.

chris chan: the human pickle

 

[Tubular Monkey]

I'm convinced if you slip into an abusive lifestlye gradually enough, the poisons you put in your body (be they drugs, alcohol, nicotine, food additives, etc.) end up being a kind of preservative. Your body basically pickles itself, and while it will probably never again be healthy, it can maintain equilibrium in its pickled state for very long periods of time.

I'd believe that about Chris if he weren't getting noticeably fatter every year.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

Isn't sugar just processed as mostly energy? Like, as far as sugar goes, it'd really mostly just have an effect on the quantity of calories you're taking in.

Just thought I'd chime in on this.

One of the greatest myths propagated in the food industry for decades is how comparatively harmless sugar is compared to fat. Sugar is shockingly bad for you in large quantities, and in some ways is worse than fat. Pure, White and Deadly was a book written in the early 70's by John Yudkin and was rubbished by the scientific and food community. It's only fairly recently that we've realized that he was almost prophetic in discovering the dangers of Sugar.

Now as for Chris, I'd be willing to bet that a great deal of his health issues stem from his consumption of horrific amounts of fizzy drinks. I remember reading the cwcki section on how much Coka Cola he drinks, and I was genuinely almost physically sick. His metabolism has clearly slowed over the past couple of years his terrible diet is definitely catching up with him. Just look at how much he's ballooned out, and unless he starts to moderate things it's only going to get worse.

 

[Marvin]

Isn't sugar just processed as mostly energy? Like, as far as sugar goes, it'd really mostly just have an effect on the quantity of calories you're taking in.

Just thought I'd chime in on this.

One of the greatest myths propagated in the food industry for decades is how comparatively harmless sugar is compared to fat. Sugar is shockingly bad for you in large quantities, and in some ways is worse than fat. Pure, White and Deadly was a book written in the early 70's by John Yudkin and was rubbished by the scientific and food community. It's only fairly recently that we've realized that he was almost prophetic in discovering the dangers of Sugar.

Source?

Edit: Er, an example of some studies that support this position?

Edit #2: Oh, and I don't think fat is bad either. Also just more calories.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

Isn't sugar just processed as mostly energy? Like, as far as sugar goes, it'd really mostly just have an effect on the quantity of calories you're taking in.

Just thought I'd chime in on this.

One of the greatest myths propagated in the food industry for decades is how comparatively harmless sugar is compared to fat. Sugar is shockingly bad for you in large quantities, and in some ways is worse than fat. Pure, White and Deadly was a book written in the early 70's by John Yudkin and was rubbished by the scientific and food community. It's only fairly recently that we've realized that he was almost prophetic in discovering the dangers of Sugar.

Source?

A BBC program I caught about a year or so ago, I can't remember what it was called, sorry. Now I'm not normally taken in by stuff on tv, but this genuinely surprised me, and changed the way I think about food.

They talked about how Yudkin's (a Jew ) book was actively suppressed by the industry and so called "sugar Barons" and he was effectively ridiculed and died in obscurity. The industry already had a badboy ingredient with fat and didn't want another one. Especially as they were in some cases replacing the fat with sugers in their "fat free" foods. Fat free means no fat, but it doesn't mean it's better for you.

(edit) This is the book.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pure-White-And- ... 0241965284

(edit) I've been searching for the program, and I'm starting to think it wasn't on the BBC. I do recall it being part of a series and this was the sugar episode.

 

[regularjohn]

I get the feeling if we asked chris what his highschool life was like at this point, it would turn out just like this

 

[Branchland Madness]

Chris' memory is just all over the place. He remembers a bunch of trivial crap no one cares about....yet he can barely remember half of his antics that got him in trouble.

 

[Lil]

I know it's only a cartoon example, but Eric Cartman of South Park pretty much sums up Chris and memory. In the "Fishsticks" episode, Jimmy makes up a joke and it goes global. As the episode progresses, Cartman slowly but surely tries to take credit for it, and he constantly flashes back to the point when the joke was conceived, the flashbacks becoming more and more twisted and ego-stroking than the previous one. Each memory, however, involves Cartman making up the joke. When Kyle confronts Eric about it, he says:

"Yes, I believe that you believe you helped write that joke. That's how people like you work! Your ego is so out of whack that it will do whatever it can to protect itself. And people with a messed up ego can do these mental gymnastics to convince themselves they're awesome, when really, they're just douchebags!

Long-story short, I think Chris tries to remember everything in a way that presents himself in either the best or most pitiable light, either by showing himself as a hero or making himself a constant victim. Through making himself the hero, he has nothing to feel bad about. By victimizing himself, he tries to erase culpability and any sort of blight that could show him to be as anything less than a good person who's down on his luck. Basically "If I don't remember it that way, then it musn't have happened in that way."

 

[BillRiley]

I know it's only a cartoon example, but Eric Cartman of South Park pretty much sums up Chris and memory. In the "Fishsticks" episode, Jimmy makes up a joke and it goes global. As the episode progresses, Cartman slowly but surely tries to take credit for it, and he constantly flashes back to the point when the joke was conceived, the flashbacks becoming more and more twisted and ego-stroking than the previous one. Each memory, however, involves Cartman making up the joke. When Kyle confronts Eric about it, he says:

"Yes, I believe that you believe you helped write that joke. That's how people like you work! Your ego is so out of whack that it will do whatever it can to protect itself. And people with a messed up ego can do these mental gymnastics to convince themselves they're awesome, when really, they're just douchebags!

Long-story short, I think Chris tries to remember everything in a way that presents himself in either the best or most pitiable light, either by showing himself as a hero or making himself a constant victim. Through making himself the hero, he has nothing to feel bad about. By victimizing himself, he tries to erase culpability and any sort of blight that could show him to be as anything less than a good person who's down on his luck. Basically "If I don't remember it that way, then it musn't have happened in that way."

I think this largely hits the nail on the proverbial head. Chris's mental state appears to lend itself to a kind of confabulation in which the details of imaginary events are fused with real ones. How much of this is on purpose and how much is involuntary is impossible to tell.