Clerks 3 - Starring DSPs not so retarded cousin and Rosario Dawson

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Clerks was a decent amateur comedy, and while nobody in the movie was a particularly good actor, Smith did find enough talent to avoid making a total botch of his first effort. Clerks is still an uneven film that hasn't aged well and tends to drift unless Anderson and O'Halloran are onscreen together. Stil it was a promising first film. Except, well, what has all that promise come to in the years since.

His later movies are more "polished" only because Smith had a small army of professionals helping him as well as vastly larger budgets, but Smith has really learned nothing about directing in over twenty years and if he hadn't gotten lucky during the indie film boom back in the 1990s he would still be a nobody.

Instead, as a film maker he's become lazy and self-referential, and also channeled all of his terrible instincts into other media, like comics and more recently, animation.
His stand up talks were ok.
 
As somebody who hasn’t seen any of the Clerks films yet, all this discussion isn’t convincing me to see these “comedies” even if there is a historical cultural significance (especially knowing Kevin Smith’s behavior over the years).

Maybe I’m fundamentally the wrong audience for these films…
Unless you grew up in the 90s don't bother.
 
As somebody who hasn’t seen any of the Clerks films yet, all this discussion isn’t convincing me to see these “comedies” even if there is a historical cultural significance (especially knowing Kevin Smith’s behavior over the years).

Maybe I’m fundamentally the wrong audience for these films…
I'd recommend Clerks 2. It's a good comedy and you don't need to watch the first one. And you really don't need to watch the 3rd one.
 
I honest to god thought you were trolling until I looked it up on Wikipedia.

What. The. Fuck.

Is this Kevin Smith's Last Jedi? Jesus Fucking Christ is subverting expectations more important than actual good story telling? He must have made it out of spite towards his fans. There's no other explanation.
Everyone wants to be the Last Jedi! Christ!
 
Apologize.
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I honest to god thought you were trolling until I looked it up on Wikipedia.

What. The. Fuck.

Is this Kevin Smith's Last Jedi? Jesus Fucking Christ is subverting expectations more important than actual good story telling? He must have made it out of spite towards his fans. There's no other explanation.
The funny thing is that a very wise industry guy told Smith when he entered "Clerks" into those film festivals that he needed to change the ending. For those that don't know Dante gets shot by a robber in the original at the end. This guy told Smith "you made a great movie and with that it looked like you just didn't know how to end it".

Pretty fitting that the crying faggot doesn't know how to end the whole series and falls back into his hack ways.

Clerks 2 was really good,though. I'll stand on that. And Brian O'Halloran is actually a really nice guy.
 
Clerks 2 was really good,though. I'll stand on that. And Brian O'Halloran is actually a really nice guy.
This. I still stand by my ground until the end of time, Clerks II is a great sequel and one of the final good Kevin Smith movies.
 
My partner finally watched the movie and loved it. We talked about the movie for a bit and he asked one question: Have you had someone close to you die? Especially suddenly?
I haven't. Other than a few scary times with one of my children with a heart condition, I've been pretty lucky on that front.

In his eyes, Smith shows both sides of what a death can do to a person. For Dante, his life stopped with Becca. He goes to her grave and talks to himself to not unload his burden and live again, but to anchor himself to it thinking there isn't anything to live for.

For Randall, his own near death experience made him want to live. His desire to leave a mark made him lose sight of the most important relationship in his life until it was stripped from him. Him leaving to edit the movie to show how important Dante was and making sure that he will be remembered was something that not a lot of people get to do. Instead of pausing his life because of Dante, he was able to continue living for Dante.


Now, back to my thoughts. Part of me is immensely happy that I can't see the film the same way, but does kind of chill my heart a bit that unless I cut off everyone in my life or go first I am going to. I have a lot of problems with the film still, but there were scenes I did like: Dante and Becca talking in the graveyard. Like in Clerks 2, their chemistry really sells their relationship. (I would also go straight again for Rosario Dawson, but that's neither here nor there.) Smith's kid replacing his Mom as the milk maid was oddly touching. Silent Bob being a dick as the DP got a few laughs out of me.

There were just too many callbacks that didn't work and the ending being an asspull that keeps me from seeing it as a good movie.
 
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