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I've read one issue and bits and pieces of others. It feels kinda "edgy" for the sake of offensiveness.

It does,My brother gifted me a copy of the stories that Garth Ennis wrote,Yeah it's a bit graphic and edgy but as a gore hound I love the over the top violence.

Also what are your thoughts on Civil War 2? And DC Rebirth?
 
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So has anyone readied the Crossed comic?I wonder what your thoughts or on it?

The first couple were compelling reading. The Alan Moore installment also looks interesting, but I haven't read it.

It's hard to say it's great, because it's ridiculously edgy, but the concept is uniquely horrifying. If you haven't read it, it's about a virus, rather like the zombie apocalypse viruses we have seen time and time again, and just like such a virus, it turns the infected into murderous monsters.

However, unlike mindless zombies, they retain their memories and abilities, but just immediately submit to their most evil impulses. So a nuclear power technician would pull out the control rods, an airline pilot would immediately crash into a building, etc. They have as little self-preservation as zombies, and their dangerousness is only limited by their lack of long-term planning.

The concept is brilliant. In actual practice, the evil is raperaperaperapeRAPEraperaperaperaperaperaperaperapeRAPERAPERAPE. And a bit of rape.

One major problem with the series is the uninfected are themselves utterly repellent and unsympathetic, and it becomes difficult to care much about them. To an extent, this occurs in any apocalypse story, but it's at an extreme here. For instance, in one of these, our "heroes" cold-bloodedly murder an entire school full of children because reasons. It's pretty hard to sympathize with these characters at that point.

My favorite character is called Horsecock. He's called that because he beats the shit out of people with a severed horse cock while yelling "HORSECOCK!" This is a high-functioning Crossed.

Anyway it's well worth a look but YMMV on whether you can even stand it at all and/or whether your interest rapidly fades after two or three installments.
 
It does,My brother gifted me a copy of the stories that Garth Ennis wrote,Yeah it's a bit graphic and edgy but as a gore hound I love the over the top violence.

Also what are your thoughts on Civil War 2? And DC Rebirth?
I haven't read them yet, but I'm glad they're bringing back Superman's marriage and giving him a kid. As Garth Ennis, he's someone who needs a little restraint or otherwise he starts going overboard. I enjoy his over the top stuff, but sometimes it feels like he's being a bit tryhard or ends up making things kind of repulsive.

For while I didn't like Warren Ellis when he first started. When he was doing Excalibur and DV8, I felt like he couldn't make a likable character if his life depended on it (Pete Wisdom definitely rubbed me the wrong way). But then Transmetropolitan (sp) came and proved that not only can he make an enjoyable character (Spider Jerusalem), but is a better writer than I gave him credit for.
 
The first couple were compelling reading. The Alan Moore installment also looks interesting, but I haven't read it.

It's hard to say it's great, because it's ridiculously edgy, but the concept is uniquely horrifying. If you haven't read it, it's about a virus, rather like the zombie apocalypse viruses we have seen time and time again, and just like such a virus, it turns the infected into murderous monsters.

However, unlike mindless zombies, they retain their memories and abilities, but just immediately submit to their most evil impulses. So a nuclear power technician would pull out the control rods, an airline pilot would immediately crash into a building, etc. They have as little self-preservation as zombies, and their dangerousness is only limited by their lack of long-term planning.

The concept is brilliant. In actual practice, the evil is raperaperaperapeRAPEraperaperaperaperaperaperaperapeRAPERAPERAPE. And a bit of rape.

One major problem with the series is the uninfected are themselves utterly repellent and unsympathetic, and it becomes difficult to care much about them. To an extent, this occurs in any apocalypse story, but it's at an extreme here. For instance, in one of these, our "heroes" cold-bloodedly murder an entire school full of children because reasons. It's pretty hard to sympathize with these characters at that point.

My favorite character is called Horsecock. He's called that because he beats the shit out of people with a severed horse cock while yelling "HORSECOCK!" This is a high-functioning Crossed.

Anyway it's well worth a look but YMMV on whether you can even stand it at all and/or whether your interest rapidly fades after two or three installments.

I will agree with you that the main heroes the people you are rooting for are quite unlikeable,And much like WD i was wanting them to die the whole way in the comic. I wish the protagonist and the infected would be better characterized and more creative with the killing and i thought it would be more like a Mad Max kinda thing.

Some of the covers for the comics are quite over the top but these two are my persona favorite.

Crossed-Badlands-6-Wraparound.jpg


and
crossed92-wrap_1024x1024.jpg
 
I will agree with you that the main heroes the people you are rooting for are quite unlikeable,And much like WD i was wanting them to die the whole way in the comic. I wish the protagonist and the infected would be better characterized and more creative with the killing and i thought it would be more like a Mad Max kinda thing.

Some of the covers for the comics are quite over the top but these two are my persona favorite.

Crossed-Badlands-6-Wraparound.jpg


and
crossed92-wrap_1024x1024.jpg
Those are pretty clever covers.
 
While I'm willing to give Riri a chance, there's something about Tony Stark simply bowing down and giving his Iron Man title to someone else (especially a kid) just because he admits that she's smarter and better than him. He'll be a mentor, but I just wish that Marvel let her have her own identity than kicking someone else out. I'm hoping she'll follow more in the path of Kamala Kahn (Ms Marvel) by being a cute, flawed and fun character and not the typical feminist-approved hero. Have Riri's inexperience be something that bites her in the ass and give her some problems fighting some of Tony's old foes because of this. Sure Tony can give her tips, but even Terry McGinnis (Batman Beyond) had to learn from his mistakes and struggled at first.
 
While I'm willing to give Riri a chance, there's something about Tony Stark simply bowing down and giving his Iron Man title to someone else (especially a kid) just because he admits that she's smarter and better than him. He'll be a mentor, but I just wish that Marvel let her have her own identity than kicking someone else out. I'm hoping she'll follow more in the path of Kamala Kahn (Ms Marvel) by being a cute, flawed and fun character and not the typical feminist-approved hero. Have Riri's inexperience be something that bites her in the ass and give her some problems fighting some of Tony's old foes because of this. Sure Tony can give her tips, but even Terry McGinnis (Batman Beyond) had to learn from his mistakes and struggled at first.
This just screams "STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN!"

But then again, who knows, I may just as well be completely wrong. But knowing what Marvel's capable of doing these days, I'm not getting my hopes up.
 
This just screams "STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN!"

But then again, who knows, I may just as well be completely wrong. But knowing what Marvel's capable of doing these days, I'm not getting my hopes up.

The fact that the did their usual M.O. of "tell the mainstream press to get publicity even if the event is not even over yer" makes me pessimist of this being done in an organic and well told way,

Feels like Teen Tony 2.0
 
I read the second issue of Scooby-Apocalypse and they are doing a better job letting some of the old Scooby elements in like Velma repeating saying jinkies when she's fleeing due to a monster scaring her off and Scooby trying to defend his new allies against the same monster only to chicken out when he sees how scary it is. Daphne shows some vulnerability and while Shaggy is taking things a little more seriously than he usually would, he's still the same Shaggy we all know and love. Otherwise, I really hope they eventually paint the mystery machine they found or put some nice details on it.
 
Since I've been reading the free copies of the Wacky Raceland comics to see how bad they get and issue 2 is a doozy with what they did with Dick Dastardly. They promised a tragic past, boy, did they fail. He was a concert pianist who looked like Tony Stark and had a wife and son. While some annihilation wave hit during the apocalypse, Dick found a safe spot, but was too cowardly to let his wife and son in (since he believed it would be too late to let them in since the wave would kill him as well for leaving the door open for too long). He keeps his son and wife's skulls hidden in the Mean Machine so if he wins he'll have the DNA to reconstruct them (as the announcer promised). Oh and he also takes a break during the race to set up a bunch of skeletons from the theater he was supposed to perform at (including the wife and kid) and plays for them while muttering, 'I'm sorry' over and over.

I know the writer was trying to make Dick more sympathetic and for the concert scene to be heartfelt, but all I could think was 'Craaaawling in my skin. These wounds, they will not heal.' I just thought I'd share how amusingly tryhard this is. I won't keep reporting unless you want me to, but this was too good not to share.

Other than that, it's a shame Batman '66 didn't go further.
 
Since I've been reading the free copies of the Wacky Raceland comics to see how bad they get and issue 2 is a doozy with what they did with Dick Dastardly. They promised a tragic past, boy, did they fail. He was a concert pianist who looked like Tony Stark and had a wife and son. While some annihilation wave hit during the apocalypse, Dick found a safe spot, but was too cowardly to let his wife and son in (since he believed it would be too late to let them in since the wave would kill him as well for leaving the door open for too long). He keeps his son and wife's skulls hidden in the Mean Machine so if he wins he'll have the DNA to reconstruct them (as the announcer promised). Oh and he also takes a break during the race to set up a bunch of skeletons from the theater he was supposed to perform at (including the wife and kid) and plays for them while muttering, 'I'm sorry' over and over.

I know the writer was trying to make Dick more sympathetic and for the concert scene to be heartfelt, but all I could think was 'Craaaawling in my skin. These wounds, they will not heal.' I just thought I'd share how amusingly tryhard this is. I won't keep reporting unless you want me to, but this was too good not to share.

Other than that, it's a shame Batman '66 didn't go further.

Dick Dastardly isn't supposed to be sympathetic. Dick Dastardly is an intentionally one-dimensional cartoon villain.

You know what would have been better? If they'd given him a flashback where they give him a childhood trauma to explain why he has an uncontrollable urge to stop pigeons. And make it funny.
 
Dick Dastardly isn't supposed to be sympathetic. Dick Dastardly is an intentionally one-dimensional cartoon villain.

You know what would have been better? If they'd given him a flashback where they give him a childhood trauma to explain why he has an uncontrollable urge to stop pigeons. And make it funny.
Maybe he was in a tree (as a kid) and about to throw some rotten eggs at old people when a heroic pigeon swooped at him, causing him to fall off and when the old people see the eggs (that are now on him) and what he was about to do, they take turns spanking him. It took me a minute to come up with.
 
I've been on a real Pogo/Walt Kelly kick lately. I bought a copy of the tenth anniversary book and - what great satire, what fine verse, what wonderful dialogue.

Is there any better summation of what it's all about than "Lines Upon a Tranquil Brow"?


In the same vein, but more European in feel, is Tove Jansson's Moomin comic strips, which I also discovered recently:

https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1697908.html
 
I just read every issue of Mark Waid's Irredeemable.

It was masterful. Makes it all the sadder Waid's a useless, censor-happy cunt.

I'll never understand how anyone in comics could take the FemFreq side after Seduction of the Innocent raped and murdered the medium in the 50s. Waid would've been burned alive for that series' depictions of demons, holocausts, sex-slaves, and homosexuality. The useless fucker doesn't even care.
 
I've been on a real Pogo/Walt Kelly kick lately. I bought a copy of the tenth anniversary book and - what great satire, what fine verse, what wonderful dialogue.

Is there any better summation of what it's all about than "Lines Upon a Tranquil Brow"?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zLJ3H3zCm8E
In the same vein, but more European in feel, is Tove Jansson's Moomin comic strips, which I also discovered recently:

https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1697908.html

Pogo is easily the best comic art ever perpetrated in the United States.
 
Pogo is easily the best comic art ever perpetrated in the United States.

Well, next to Little Nemo and Krazy Kat...

Still, satire as good as Kelly's is hard to find these days. I don't think there's ever been an equal in comic strips (Tove Jansson's Moomin strips, maybe, but those are European).
 
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