#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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BlueKnight said:
@Mister Dongs Ahh just the other day I was wondering what ever happened to The Fandom Menace Historian. This seems about the the correct speed for such a stupid individual. Five seconds of listening to that literal ethot should have informed any sane individual that fucking her would be like making sweet sweet love to the number 4 reactor at Chernobyl. Alas, a Fandom Historian and his money are soon parted. Not sure what is more humiliating, the Cuckening or the Internet broadcasting of the account of the Cuckening. Sometimes, it's simply better to STFU, but happily for us consumers of this variety of content, the predictable yet 100% hilariously Pyrrhic I Bought You Stuff to Fuck Me Pill Sick Burn™ is too irresistible a charge to level while not livestreaming his own emasculation. Yes, Stephen paid a lot of money to fuck a drug addict and she has subsequently shockingly behaved exactly like a drug addict. The biggest loss for The Fandom Menace Historian is not that he paid so much money to coat his manhood (such as it is) in STD-land, it's that he can't wait to tell the whole world about the fact. Thanks for the report!
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It takes a certain level of internet addiction and hubris to share that humiliation with the entire planet and think that's winning.
 
Antonio Brice has pushed back fulfillment of Brand: Way of the Gun to August 2022, making it a full 898 daysbetween crowdfund launch and fulfillment of the 55-page "epic" (assuming it fulfills). A new record!
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lmao, how can 55 pages of ANYTHING be an “epic”? That’s literally a one-shot, I’ve read H-doujins longer than that.

Are all CG books this short with multiple years in between installments?
 
Gar For Archer said:
Are all CG books this short with multiple years in between installments?
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Not all of them. I will point out that more of the smaller campaigns and even the CG resident E-Thot seem to get their books out in a more timely manner than the larger campaigns and campaigns from some of the former professionals. At least it seems that way to me, @Mister Dongs might have the actual data on this.
 
The Coon said:
Not all of them. I will point out that more of the smaller campaigns and even the CG resident E-Thot seem to get their books out in a more timely manner than the larger campaigns and campaigns from some of the former professionals. At least it seems that way to me, @Mister Dongs might have the actual data on this.
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Bigger emphasis on the length part. I was under the assumption that people were paying $20-30 for like, 100 pages at least. 50 pages barely qualifies as a book.
 
Gar For Archer said:
Bigger emphasis on the length part. I was under the assumption that people were paying $20-30 for like, 100 pages at least. 50 pages barely qualifies as a book.
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Oh ok, yea most CG books are around 48 pages(story) to start with and the price is usually $25. A lot of campaigns have stretch goals that will add more story pages or a book will have 48 story pages and more pages of pin-ups, concept art, etc. There are defiantly exceptions to this, but most campaigns follow the 48 story page at $25.
 
The Coon said:
Oh ok, yea most CG books are around 48 pages(story) to start with and the price is usually $25. A lot of campaigns have stretch goals that will add more story pages or a book will have 48 story pages and more pages of pin-ups, concept art, etc. There are defiantly exceptions to this, but most campaigns follow the 48 story page at $25.
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The ideal really is to do a book with a campaign that packs in a lot of low cost high value perks like offering signing, variant covers, signed prints, stickers, pins, etc. The production cost doesn't have to be that much but the perceived value is higher. The minimum page count should be 32 pages which is a floppy Annual which lines up because a lot of books in these campaigns take at least a year to produce. Also not all campaigns are created equally and there can be different motivations for backing certain campaigns. I backed @FROG several times explicitly as a "Fuck You" to the DC/Marvel SJWthon but the added value was a fucking amazing comic by a professional artist. I honestly could not give less of a shit how long he takes to deliver the book because while I do love me some EVS work, the product is secondary to the entertainment value of making him a multi-millionaire while virtue signaling assholes cuck out and make cultural icons gay for minimum wage and twitter likes. I swear to God if I have to read another misuse of a plural pronoun Just Because We Can Do It I'm going to lose it. Right now, all my money that could be going to Detective Comics or Superman or Action Comics pulls is going to Frog. Batman was about to go to Frog too but All Gay All Day Tynion has finally left the title.
 
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Tried to watch the Perch interview with Gabe. I could only last a few minutes. I know you CG guys like to do the "Democrats are the real racists" thing, but never send a sand nigger/wetback half-breed out to speak for you again. He made you all look even more retarded than Frog Shagger going on about ESGs and Jews controlling the weather.
 
NasserRabadi13 said:
It's not being a cuck to act like adults, put the past behind us, and move forward with the sequel that our fans have constantly asked for.

Brutas 2 is gonna be bigger and better than book 1! I've improved as a writer, I have the best editor I can ask for, and Donal Delay is a top 5 CG artist.

I'm running the campaign and handling fulfillment, and we are gonna have most or all of the 48 pages done before launch.
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You are a special kind of retarded.
 
Rupin said:
The Cyberfrog issue 3 campaign is going to be quite interesting to watch whenever it finally launches…
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Stab You in the Back said:
There will not be a Cyberfrog 3.
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After Rekt Planet eventually ships, there's still Rainbow Brute and who knows how long that will take. Putting the million dollar franchise on the back burner may slow the momentum of the series even further and cost sales in the long term.
 
9th legion centurion 002 said:
After Rekt Planet eventually ships, there's still Rainbow Brute and who knows how long that will take. Putting the million dollar franchise on the back burner may slow the momentum of the series even further and cost sales in the long term.
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he hasnt even started drawing Reignbow Brute so, I estimate the book will be done in 3 to 5 years after Rekt Planet is fulfilled. Then I will be generous and give Frog another 3 years before Cyberfrog 3 comes out. So it could be almost a decade before we see the book.
 
@YoungRippa59 gives some more details for his hopes and aspirations for the Joggaverse. Will add some commentary after I finish watching the video in full, but barely one minute in he gives the completely delusional idea that he wants the Rippaverse to be a direct competitor to Marvel and DC.

Anyone who has followed the comics industry for any length of time knows that this is batshit retarded, because anyone who cared about Marvel and DC already stopped buying their books ages ago - the only ones left are dumbass speculators and consoomers who will keep buying garbage books that they hate just to have their “complete run”, and neither of those will give a shit about your new idea because they will NEVER care about anything that isn’t Marvel/DC.
 
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Gar For Archer said:
@YoungRippa59 gives some more details for his hopes and aspirations for the Joggaverse. Will add some commentary after I finish watching the video in full, but barely one minute in he gives the completely delusional idea that he wants the Rippaverse to be a direct competitor to Marvel and DC.

Anyone who has followed the comics industry for any length of time knows that this is batshit retarded, because anyone who cared about Marvel and DC already stopped buying their books ages ago - the only ones left are dumbass speculators and consoomers who will keep buying garbage books that they hate just to have their “complete run”, and neither of those will give a shit about your new idea because they will NEVER care about anything that isn’t Marvel/DC.
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I will take all the rainbow stickers, but he said a few things that makes me cautiously optimistic, at least for starters. He sank his own money upfront into the project and talked about how he planned everything for months and building the infrastructure around it, that shows that he's taking this seriously. Now of course it comes down to execution and that first project to hook people in.

As for being a direct competitor to the big two, it's obviously not going to happen in a few years or even a decade, but even those two started out from someone's garage so who knows. That goal will require an insane amount of time, effort, reeling some exceptionally talented creative people who can expand things, marketing, and good luck. So uh good luck.
 
The Bovinian Derivative said:
I will take all the rainbow stickers, but he said a few things that makes me cautiously optimistic, at least for starters. He sank his own money upfront into the project and talked about how he planned everything for months and building the infrastructure around it, that shows that he's taking this seriously. Now of course it comes down to execution and that first project to hook people in.

As for being a direct competitor to the big two, it's obviously not going to happen in a few years or even a decade, but even those two started out from someone's garage so who knows. That goal will require an insane amount of time, effort, reeling some exceptionally talented creative people who can expand things, marketing, and good luck. So uh good luck.
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Assuming he is actually able to tell a good story (big if), it’ll come down to how and where he decides to sell it. “Direct competitor to Marvel and DC” implies to me that he’s going to print floppy comics and try to get them into comic stores, which is a proposition that’s doomed to fail from the very start, because just by entering the same playing field as Marvel/DC, you’ve already lost. Floppies are a terribly outdated format that’s only survived today because of nostalgia, and selling primarily through comic stores ensures that nobody but smelly comic book nerds will ever know about the existence of your book.

I think he did mention that his first issue was going to be around 200 pages, which puts it more in the range of a graphic novel. If he’s smart about it, he’d make this project a graphic novel series that’s family-friendly enough to be marketed through Scholastic or something similar for the teen/YA audience. If that’s what he goes for, I can see a potential path to success… but once you do that, you’re not really directly competing with Marvel and DC anymore.
 
Gar For Archer said:
Assuming he is actually able to tell a good story (big if), it’ll come down to how and where he decides to sell it. “Direct competitor to Marvel and DC” implies to me that he’s going to print floppy comics and try to get them into comic stores, which is a proposition that’s doomed to fail from the very start, because just by entering the same playing field as Marvel/DC, you’ve already lost. Floppies are a terribly outdated format that’s only survived today because of nostalgia, and selling primarily through comic stores ensures that nobody but smelly comic book nerds will ever know about the existence of your book.

I think he did mention that his first issue was going to be around 200 pages, which puts it more in the range of a graphic novel. If he’s smart about it, he’d make this project a graphic novel series that’s family-friendly enough to be marketed through Scholastic or something similar for the teen/YA audience. If that’s what he goes for, I can see a potential path to success… but once you do that, you’re not really directly competing with Marvel and DC anymore.
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I took being a direct competitor to them as someone who wants to (eventually) make a large publishing house with a bunch of concurrently running stories sharing a single continuity, besides that I agree with you 100%. I have no idea how he intends to market it, but reaching out to that wider audience and generate interest there will be the hardest thing after he's got something IMO.
 
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Down agane. No email from IndieGoGo this time telling me any information. It's just down.
 
DragoonSierra said:
Would this need permission because its a Halal?
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I asked that very question of two different moderators in backchannels. From what I'm being told, not necessarily. Especially with respect to Dean.

5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Should have made a truce & worked together to stomp out your immediate threats, but noooo....
FROG MAN BAD!
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FWIW, FROG was on JDA's show last night, and he expressed a different opinion. He seems to think that they rejected his help against Preston because they (somehow, inexplicably, despite never being on the best of terms with him) expected him to pay for everything out of his own pocket, instead of just paying for most of the heavy lifting that would have gotten all three of them dismissed from the case. IOW, @RodgerDodger may be right. I don't know one way or the other, because it's always difficult to get into somebody's head.

I've been critical of FROG over the years on a variety of subjects. Lord knows there's plenty of retardation to talk about in CG. That said, I also think it's unfair to not give Ethan credit for at least offering to have his lawyers do most of the heavy lifting. Nobody is saying anybody has to like FROG or CG. Just give credit where it's due, and acknowledge how that case is turning into a bit of a disaster for the other two. Because, when you get right down to brass tacks, Preston should be universally reviled by everybody. At least, you'd think that...

This, right here, is why excessive factionalism is gay. It leads to a lack of objectivity.

TheCosmicWarrior said:
Down agane. No email from IndieGoGo this time telling me any information. It's just down.
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I'm sure some people will celebrate this but, as for me, I think even your harshest critics should concede this is bullshit.

And by Liam, of all people?

Remember when Liam was universally recognized as a egotistical and delusional cow and we could all hold hands and dab on that orange faggot (who even has his own separate thread)?

Kiwifarms remembers. Those were happier times.
 
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