#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Boones Farm Strawberry said:
yes I'm suggesting the movie people/bean counters at disney are directing the comics people to pave the way for MCU 2.0 which will feature

1. nobodies

2. in bad films

3. armored against criticism by progressive themes and diverse casting/staffing

4. that wont be seen by as many people as current MCU films no matter how much woke critics praise them due to #3 ala Black Panther, but

5. will still be very profitable because costs will be so low due to #1.
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That doesn't make sense for corporate as fuck Disney and reads as tinfoil though.
 
Adamska said:
That doesn't make sense for corporate as fuck Disney and reads as tinfoil though.
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Yet corporate-as-fuck Disney let SJW Star Wars through the gate, and has yet to snap back Marvel Comics in any meaningful way.

I don't think it's likely, but nor do I think it's impossible at this point.
 
Mola Ram said:
Yet corporate-as-fuck Disney let SJW Star Wars through the gate, and has yet to snap back Marvel Comics in any meaningful way.

I don't think it's likely, but nor do I think it's impossible at this point.
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Boones Farm Strawberry said:
I mean they already did this for star wars didnt they? I havent seen the last couple films but from the commercials they're all stuffed with nobodies while they kill off the expensive talent
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In Star War's case, that's Kathleen Kennedy's influence I think, and honestly it comes off more for marketing and desperation in Solo's case. I don't have any evidence of an MCU conspiracy, which you two are dangerously edging towards. Plus it's a bit of a bridge to go to this idea where Disney chooses to make low budget dumpster trash based around literal who's rather than continue to make billion dollar movies with people that more of the stupids would recognize.
 
Adamska said:
In Star War's case, that's Kathleen Kennedy's influence I think, and honestly it comes off more for marketing and desperation in Solo's case. I don't have any evidence of an MCU conspiracy, which you two are dangerously edging towards. Plus it's a bit of a bridge to go to this idea where Disney chooses to make low budget dumpster trash based around literal who's rather than continue to make billion dollar movies with people that more of the stupids would recognize.
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I don't think there's a conspiracy, per se, just an ideological bent that's not really currently present in the MCU but is arguably present in Disney overall. Throw A Wrinkle in Time on the pile, too, which demonstrated they the Mouse doesn't give a wet shit about treating source material with any respect if it means they can pound certain drums. Also, I don't think they're going to go "low budget" on MCU no matter what a hash they make of the scripts. Christ knows one of the reasons Solo fell on its face was the absurd amount of cash they pissed away on it with all the reshoots.
 
SJW puritans are at it again, I have 2 samples today. First this short one by some fatty getting mad that a sexually suggestive character like Harley Quinn is being drawn sexually suggestively:
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https://twitter.com/nolapfau/status/1006872249800933377 https://archive.li/a8l9N

Classic:
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https://twitter.com/LunarArchivist/status/1007300542824091648 https://archive.li/A4pDv
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Second case has more meat on this bone. J Scott Campbell is again getting flak for drawing women sexily. This time he got called a racist and a pedo for drawing an adult version of Tiger Lily (some Peter Pan character) in a bondage scenario. Just lovely.
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How does this goofy bitch not have a thread here already?
“An ad assaulted me wah!”:
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https://twitter.com/heather28df/status/1007025052473147395 https://archive.li/dBHEP
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Campbell chimes in:
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https://twitter.com/JScottCampbell/status/1007035401947660289 https://archive.li/hCrYJ

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https://twitter.com/wapshkankwet/status/1007061120497147904 https://archive.li/y4n1p
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https://twitter.com/JScottCampbell/status/1007109243130875904 https://archive.li/a1DPg

I need a :drink::
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https://twitter.com/ohRocco/status/1007110319196508160 https://archive.li/vhpUq
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Real mental heavyweights we got here:
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https://twitter.com/JScottCampbell/status/1007098941198909440 https://archive.li/fp34X

Oh no! He drew a thot! Those don’t exist:
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https://twitter.com/adrparsons/status/1007051630397669376 https://archive.li/LUOHb

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https://twitter.com/JScottCampbell/status/1007081960915660800 https://archive.li/RWTA8
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https://twitter.com/JScottCampbell/status/1007092124540534784 https://archive.li/aMNeX
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https://twitter.com/JScottCampbell/status/1007114016924155904 https://archive.li/djj8k

D&C made a video on it. Do not watch (or listen to) it while driving like I did, I eyerolled so hard I nearly bumped the car in front of me.
 
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damian said:
SJW puritans are at it again, I have 2 samples today. First this short one by some fatty getting mad that a sexually suggestive character like Harley Quinn is being drawn sexually suggestively:
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Don’t these nuts ever get screech fatigue? I know I just gloss over this crap and can barely get past the second tweet when some SJW ninny is babbling the same nonsense I’ve heard a million times already.
 
AnOminous said:
Don’t these nuts ever get screech fatigue? I know I just gloss over this crap and can barely get past the second tweet when some SJW ninny is babbling the same nonsense I’ve heard a million times already.
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Self-righteous anger is like honey to their throats.
 
Mola Ram said:
I don't think there's a conspiracy, per se, just an ideological bent that's not really currently present in the MCU but is arguably present in Disney overall. Throw A Wrinkle in Time on the pile, too, which demonstrated they the Mouse doesn't give a wet shit about treating source material with any respect if it means they can pound certain drums. Also, I don't think they're going to go "low budget" on MCU no matter what a hash they make of the scripts. Christ knows one of the reasons Solo fell on its face was the absurd amount of cash they pissed away on it with all the reshoots.
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IMO even if it did happen, they'd probably rework enough of nu-Marvel characters that they wouldn't resemble the source material. For example, America has popped up in a handful of other media now but never with the revolting personality Gabby Rivera gave her or how Marvel Studios claims the Captain Marvel movie is going to be original as they found nothing workable in those comics.

This raises questions with the idea of "Marvel Comics only exists as an IP farm" when they were scrapping most of the originals for new characters and then completely rewriting them when transferred to other mediums but I'm not a multi-billion dollar corporation.
 
weirdMcGee said:
Too be fair, I hate how Campbell draws all his women the same way but jeez they need to chill off. Just a drawing.
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Campbell can only draw one woman really well. If you notice he mostly draws the same person over and over, he just changes the cosmetic aspects.

This is actual criticism, see how you can criticize him without looking like a total sped?
 
RockVolnutt said:
This raises questions with the idea of "Marvel Comics only exists as an IP farm" when they were scrapping most of the originals for new characters and then completely rewriting them when transferred to other mediums but I'm not a multi-billion dollar corporation.
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This is entirely speculation on my part, but considering Disney for the most part pays little attention to Marvel's antics outside of rare exceptions like Perlmutter directly effecting the film financially and don't even bother to separate Marvel Comics in their finances, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney execs only have Marvel some vague directions about laying out the groundwork for some new movies after this whole Thanos wraps up, and then didn't really pay much attention to what Marvel was actually doing until they started trying to draft up the Captain Marvel script to compete with Wonder Woman and realized they have nothing to work with.

I think a lot of people have seen Disney/MCU as being this Mobile Organism Designed Only for Profits that has turned making popular franchises into a fine science, but I think in light of the Star Wars fiascos and other failed ventures like A Wrinkle in Time it's becoming clear that a lot of the popularity with the MCU had a lot to do with an insane amount of luck and the right elements coming together at the right time, which is proving to not be easily replicated. The more likely reality is that Disney's higher ups are likely as our if touch as the rest of Hollywood and is just handing these massive projects to anyone who seems tangentially related with nerd shit and assumes they'll make something their demographics want.
 
Every time I catch up on this thread I have a terrible vision of the world SJWs want for us all.

It's a bunch of Mr. Potato Head like humans wearing cult jumpsuits sitting in a giant theater watching a screen that flashes "You Are Special" in every color while sipping unsweetened tea full of vitamins and nutrients.
 
PantsFreeZone said:
Every time I catch up on this thread I have a terrible vision of the world SJWs want for us all.

It's a bunch of Mr. Potato Head like humans wearing cult jumpsuits sitting in a giant theater watching a screen that flashes "You Are Special" in every color while sipping unsweetened tea full of vitamins and nutrients.
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I imagine it being akin to the Justice Lords' Earth from the DCAU with literal PC Police willing to brutalize you for wrongthink.
 
One Man Bland said:
This is entirely speculation on my part, but considering Disney for the most part pays little attention to Marvel's antics outside of rare exceptions like Perlmutter directly effecting the film financially and don't even bother to separate Marvel Comics in their finances, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney execs only have Marvel some vague directions about laying out the groundwork for some new movies after this whole Thanos wraps up, and then didn't really pay much attention to what Marvel was actually doing until they started trying to draft up the Captain Marvel script to compete with Wonder Woman and realized they have nothing to work with.

I think a lot of people have seen Disney/MCU as being this Mobile Organism Designed Only for Profits that has turned making popular franchises into a fine science, but I think in light of the Star Wars fiascos and other failed ventures like A Wrinkle in Time it's becoming clear that a lot of the popularity with the MCU had a lot to do with an insane amount of luck and the right elements coming together at the right time, which is proving to not be easily replicated. The more likely reality is that Disney's higher ups are likely as our if touch as the rest of Hollywood and is just handing these massive projects to anyone who seems tangentially related with nerd shit and assumes they'll make something their demographics want.
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Maybe. It should be an obvious statement that "the Marvel Universe" ends up falling apart if you start eradicating the Marvel characters and it'll resemble some indie capeshit universe from the 90s where every character is a bootleg (ironically like Jawbreakers). That's why I think this wouldn't work out even if you removed the political angle.

A common meme is mainstream comics always revert to status quo but that's not really true as things DO change, it's more accurate to say things move slower the closer you are to A-list. The fringe series are the ones that should experiment the most in hopes of becoming more popular which'll then affect the A-listers as they share a world. Film is a different medium, not the best for the genre IMO, but getting rid of the core makes the whole thing lose stability and collapse.
 
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