#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Today's Live with Liam had a special guest appearance from Liam's mom. She says her name is not "Faye" and that her very special orange boy Liam has not laid a finger on her.


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Gotta admit that he got a hand of her VERY very fast for pretending he lives thousand of miles away from her, that he couldn't have hit her because of the distance, when he accused his Uncle that he said was living closer to her, of hitting his mom, isn't it ? (And yes he accused his own Uncle to deflect this issue on stream more than once, Liam is a retard and a bad liar.)

also this comment from Liam he erased from DA Talks Channel :
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But the only existing assault charges listed "Faye Gray" as victim, so what difference do your objections have on that?
For starters, it's not "Faye".
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And second : Getting anyone on stream with her voice doesn't prove it's his mother either. It could be his aunt, or any other acquaintance of his to just protect his businessmen and his reputation. It wouldn't make sense getting her so fast in his own room by spreading lies that he lives so far from her.

Third : And especially from all the known lies he has spread on stream about living so so far from her and accusing someone else of hitting his mom (aka his Uncle Liam Cameron Gray) , why stating someone "else" hit your mother ? And acknowledging on his past stream something happened ? It would be impossible for him to get to her this fast.

You obviously run pr and damage control for a pathologic liar that previously said his mom has been hit, but it was not by him.

"Oh no, Liam, i am your pr manager, DELET DELET all your previous streams where you stated all this outreageous shit and come up with all this other bullshit we wrote down for you, please, shut the fuck up you are retarded and always make everything ten times worse, and do as we tell you"

Looks pretty much like that to anyone paying attention to Liam's past behavior.
 
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Oh they are a community alright. A community of ideological opportunists. They will pretend to be friends and prop each other up as long as it is convenient, only to turn on and devour any person as soon as possible to amass more clout in the industry. If Frog was not a dummy fashioned from the same cloths as the people running witch hunts, he could actually use the situation to his advantage and begin building a proper publishing company.

I've already built a publishing company. It's called ALL CAPS COMICS. I publish myself at my own pace for 100% of the profits, get the highest crowdfunding results, and only have to deal with my own ego.

Do you mean to say that I should scoop up all of these cancelled creators and put them in work-for-hire contracts?

This is backwards thinking. The direct market is dying. Someone has to market and fulfill these projects if we aren't giving two thirds of our profits away to distributors and brick and mortar shops.

I can't. It isn't worth it. I make more money and have more energy for my own projects.

These guys can do what I'm doing, and take ownership of their own IPs.
 
For starters, it's not "Faye".
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And second : Getting anyone on stream with her voice doesn't prove it's his mother either. It could be his aunt, or any other acquaintance of his to just protect his businessmen and his reputation. It wouldn't make sense getting her so fast in his own room by spreading lies that he lives so far from her.

Third : And especially from all the known lies he has spread on stream about living so so far from her and accusing someone else of hitting his mom (aka his Uncle Liam Cameron Gray) , why stating someone "else" hit your mother ? And acknowledging on his past stream something happened ? It would be impossible for him to get to her this fast.

You obviously run pr and damage control for a pathologic liar that previously said his mom has been hit, but it was not by him.

"Oh no, Liam, i am your pr manager, DELET DELET all your previous streams where you stated all this outreageous shit and come up with all this other bullshit we wrote down for you, please, shut the fuck up you are retarded and always make everything ten times worse, and do as we tell you"

Looks pretty much like that to anyone paying attention to Liam's past behavior.

Holy fuck get a life you fucking faggot.
 
Today's Live with Liam had a special guest appearance from Liam's mom. She says her name is not "Faye" and that her very special orange boy Liam has not laid a finger on her.


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I've already built a publishing company. It's called ALL CAPS COMICS. I publish myself at my own pace for 100% of the profits, get the highest crowdfunding results, and only have to deal with my own ego.

Do you mean to say that I should scoop up all of these cancelled creators and put them in work-for-hire contracts?

This is backwards thinking. The direct market is dying. Someone has to market and fulfill these projects if we aren't giving two thirds of our profits away to distributors and brick and mortar shops.

I can't. It isn't worth it. I make more money and have more energy for my own projects.

These guys can do what I'm doing, and take ownership of their own IPs.

Plus the real money is milking the pay piggies on the tube. Running a comic imprint actually requires time and energy for less money. It's searing proof of how boring CG is becoming. Just look at some of the recent streams.
 
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Plus the real money is milking the pay piggies on the tube. Running a comic imprint actually requires time and energy for less money. It's searing proof of how boring CG is becoming. Just look at some of the recent streams.

No, the REAL money is on IndieGoGo, doing MY comic book. YouTube pays okay, but nowhere near what a CyberFrog campaign pays. That's my comic imprint, which receives 90% of my time and energy because it's 90% of my income.

I'm sorry you're bored, but that's not a compelling reason for me to organize, promote, publish and fulfill every disaffected comic pro on the internet. They can do that for themselves.
 
I've already built a publishing company. It's called ALL CAPS COMICS. I publish myself at my own pace for 100% of the profits, get the highest crowdfunding results, and only have to deal with my own ego.

Do you mean to say that I should scoop up all of these cancelled creators and put them in work-for-hire contracts?

This is backwards thinking. The direct market is dying. Someone has to market and fulfill these projects if we aren't giving two thirds of our profits away to distributors and brick and mortar shops.

I can't. It isn't worth it. I make more money and have more energy for my own projects.

These guys can do what I'm doing, and take ownership of their own IPs.

I am not saying that you should scoop up the talent or create a company that would change things. I said that you would if you were competent. Given your and comicsgate's standards and behavior, it is good that you didn't.

With all the upheaval going on now, there is a very good opportunity to make an impact as big as Image made in the 90s. Publishers restructuring and cancellations mean that there are and will be many people with talent and experience looking for jobs. It is absolutely worth it for someone who cares about the industry and the medium. In right hands it could change things for better. Both for readers and creators. It is not worth it for someone obsessed with raking in as much cash with as little effort as possible.


By the way, is All Caps Comics even an actual registered company yet? I could not find anything named ALL CAPS tied to you in states you lived in at some point. Maybe I missed something. If your posts regarding the company are anything to go by, you have no clear idea of what to do. Nothing but publishing your own books, and then maybe making an offer to your buddies. How are you going to publish them exactly? Will you keep resorting to indiegogo?
If so, good luck to you. Reliance on crowdfunding alone is not a good idea for long term. Same goes for being an eceleb. Sooner or later people will donate less often and in lower amounts. Portions of your fanbase will even turn on you. Post-covid financial crisis and trade war with China will shrink profits even further. Crowdfunding stage will get more crowded post covid. To further complicate things, if $20 for 72 page GN becomes the standard, fewer people will agree to $25 for 45 pages.
 
No, the REAL money is on IndieGoGo, doing MY comic book. YouTube pays okay, but nowhere near what a CyberFrog campaign pays. That's my comic imprint, which receives 90% of my time and energy because it's 90% of my income.

I'm sorry you're bored, but that's not a compelling reason for me to organize, promote, publish and fulfill every disaffected comic pro on the internet. They can do that for themselves.

Oh, those guys are boring as hell mostly. Watch that Drink and Draw stream or your bois fav Keyfabe. Not that most of CG is much better these days.

Making comics takes allot more work then running your youtube and collecting desperate wannabes and has beens superchats.
 
Plus the real money is milking the pay piggies on the tube. Running a comic imprint actually requires time and energy for less money. It's searing proof of how boring CG is becoming. Just look at some of the recent streams.
HEy, EVS is atleast trying....
@FROG you okay? you look like the gayest men alive while giving yourself a nickname based on some insane massmurderer....

I hope i will remember to make a screenshot once he is done streaming. that outfit was insane.
 
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Frog doesn't want to sell other people's projects like a traditional publisher; he wants to take the money from already funded projects and use it to pay a team to fulfill (print, package, ship) them and use that money to cover the costs of said paid employees to do his own fulfillment while he crowdfunds/youtubes/actually draws comics or whatever.
 
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Frog doesn't want to sell other people's projects like a traditional publisher; he wants to take the money from already funded projects and use it to pay a team to fulfill (print, package, ship) them and use that money to cover the costs of said paying employees to do his own fulfillment while he crowdfunds/youtubes/actually draws comics or whatever.
he can never grow big like that. Zack delegates his ideas to teams and keeps the IP and most of the money...
 
I am not saying that you should scoop up the talent or create a company that would change things. I said that you would if you were competent. Given your and comicsgate's standards and behavior, it is good that you didn't.

With all the upheaval going on now, there is a very good opportunity to make an impact as big as Image made in the 90s. Publishers restructuring and cancellations mean that there are and will be many people with talent and experience looking for jobs. It is absolutely worth it for someone who cares about the industry and the medium. In right hands it could change things for better. Both for readers and creators. It is not worth it for someone obsessed with raking in as much cash with as little effort as possible.

Just a quick primer on IMAGE Comics in the 90's:

During the biggest boom comics had ever experienced, the very top paid and most popular creators at Marvel left to work for themselves. IMAGE was famous for revolutionizing one thing in comics: Digital coloring. The rest of it was basically exactly as you are describing me. "Raking in as much cash with as little effort as possible." At a time when all mainstream comics were selling hundreds of thousands of copies, the biggest creators defected to do less work for more money, while hiring teenagers to mass produce imitation, spin off product to fill out their publishing line.

It didn't last, because of egos and personality conflicts, not to mention the fact that the massive print runs weren't based on readership, but on speculation. So it all fell apart.

It might be true that I'm not competent and my behavior is just awful, but I did figure out how to make millions in comics while the mainstream was in massive decline. If it's possible to take creators who were never the Todd McFarlanes or the Jim Lees of the mainstream and spin them into a new Dustbowl Image Comics, I have to admit that I am not qualified to make that happen.

And you're right that I don't care about the industry as it is. The Comics Biz has been self-harming for a decade now, and it doesn't seem to want to listen to people who want to help.

I do care about the medium, though. I care about being able to tell CYBERFROG stories for as long as I'm able to, and I care that other people should be financially able to do comics too. That's about all I'm concerned about regarding comics in 2020.





By the way, is All Caps Comics even an actual registered company yet? I could not find anything named ALL CAPS tied to you in states you lived in at some point. Maybe I missed something.

No, I have the common law trademark on ALL CAPS COMICS and that provides enough protection to do what I'm doing now. I haven't registered it yet, but I'm told by my attorney that I don't really need to yet, just express via TM that I intend to do so.

If your posts regarding the company are anything to go by, you have no clear idea of what to do. Nothing but publishing your own books, and then maybe making an offer to your buddies. How are you going to publish them exactly? Will you keep resorting to indiegogo?
If so, good luck to you. Reliance on crowdfunding alone is not a good idea for long term. Same goes for being an eceleb. Sooner or later people will donate less often and in lower amounts. Portions of your fanbase will even turn on you. Post-covid financial crisis and trade war with China will shrink profits even further. Crowdfunding stage will get more crowded post covid. To further complicate things, if $20 for 72 page GN becomes the standard, fewer people will agree to $25 for 45 pages.

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Yes. Why does there need to be a plan in place right now other than to publish my own books and perhaps make an offer to my buddies?

I will publish them by crowdfunding them through IndieGoGo or another CF website, as I have been doing.

IndieGoGo isn't a "last resort" it's an excellent substitute for DIAMOND or a Direct Market solicitor. It charges less, but removes the distribution, which makes it your job to fulfill. So it's the same thing on a smaller scale for small businesses.

I'm not sure why "reliance on crowdfunding alone isn't a good idea for long term." I guess reliance on the Direct Market wasn't a good idea for the long term either, since it's falling apart now.
But it's working really well at the moment, and we'll adapt and change as circumstances force us to do so. Other options are eBay and Amazon. We'll be using both of those as well.

If being an eceleb isn't a good idea long term, imagine trying to sell your comics without an internet presence. I guess if I'm an eceleb, it's a good thing.

And yes, sooner or later, it's quite possible that people will be less interested in CYBERFROG or me, and I'll make less and less money. Or it could go the other way, and CYBERFROG could get bigger and bigger, but can you tell me which scenario would make this not a likely outcome? Almost everyone has their day and then fades away.

Prices are always a concern. I agree that $25 for 48 pages is a lot, which is why once we reach funding thresholds, I add bonuses. At the moment, $25 gets you three CyberFrog comic books, 6 trading cards, 2 big stickers, a keychain and a PVC toy. It's a pretty great deal.

But that's what crowdfunding does. People are committing to help me make the book. If we only sell 100 copies, I need that $25 to simply pay the printer so that 100 people can have the book. Once we get bigger, we make that $25 a better deal.

I love it. It's a lot of fun. It's definitely not low effort, no matter what it looks like to you. I think what we're doing is the future of comics.
 
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