#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Absurdity]

Can someone fill me in on G&G, do they actually review games and movies? I only have a vague idea that he is conservative-ish and he can't be that familiar with all of the wonders of CG or else he'd realize the first thing Frog is going to do when you're down is to sit on your chest and lap up the flies as they lay eggs in your corpse.

If you're not doing original research, documentaries or other creative presentations, breadtubing can get awfully dull and repetitive.

But if we're going to look at something totally unexpected, a virtue(bat)-signaling liberal Hollywood movie director, then we have to go back to Lucas.

I distinctly remember George Lucas becoming increasingly disillusioned with his disgruntled fanbase over the years and being tired of fielding criticism for his half-baked ideas. Then he came across a corporate tagalong who had a major secret agenda to push and probably had some juicy dirt on the CEO simps over at Dismal. Who knows? Only compared to someone else's even worse take on the franchise did Lucas start to regain some of the respect lost, much like Snyder. In both cases, each franchise could use an extended break before they get someone in there who really loves the IP and not just for its potential profit.

If it's rare to see Comic Pros having actual friends, imagine what Hollywood elites are like. I guess Jeremy should count himself lucky Snyder didn't blame him for his daughter's suicide.

 

[Rupin]

@NasserRabadi13 launched his new IGG, Secret Comics Presents , this afternoon, & it's already over $1,200:
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This from the campaign page caught my eye:
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The intro at the top says "The artist of SPAWN," waaay down at the bottom of the campaign page, it says the artist worked "on A Spawn comic for Todd McFarlane."

Because I'm bored, & a kiwi, & I think Nasser always deserves a good kick, I looked up Jason Robinson on Spawn :
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It was a mini comic that came with a Spawn toy in 1994.

Is Nasser being dishonest? No, but it's a bit like a convention hyping appearances by Star Wars actors, & when you go, they're all background characters & extras. Technically true, but deceptive. Except for the B & W cover, this is the best looking art I've ever seen on one of your comics. I don't think you needed "the artist of SPAWN" bs.

Horror isn't my thing, but good luck, Nasser. It's gotta suck trying to get attention for a crowdfund during this G & G/Snyder shit.

H/t @SaidNoOneEver for the heads up about the link to the campaign

jason was on Mike‘s Cross Examinations throwing shade at Nasser. I found that to be rather odd. Like was he doing that because Mike and Nasser are at odds right now and he was just sucking up to Mike for access to his audience or is this some type of legitimate beef?


https://youtu.be/s47HvusSsSM

Jason‘s segment begins at 19 minutes into the video.

 

[make_it_so]

If any of you guys want to rehost it on bitchute or whatever, feel free.

Edit: Never mind it already has been.

ZACK SNYDER disses THE FANDOM MENACE.

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1 1/2 hours into this stream, EVS and YoungRippa are dropping some hard truths. Patrick Parnell also noted that while the G+G people went to all this trouble to get Snyder to come onto their livestream, none of them appeared to have any questions ready to ask the man - whether it be about the film, comics, or whatever.

So why the hell did they even bother to go through with this and set themselves up for this shitstorm? What, did they just plan on basking in the man's glory or something?

EDIT: 2 1/2 hours in holy shit Jeremy sounds absolutely pussy whipped and in denial, he's got a whole litany of excuses about why he didn't stand up for his people.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

But if we're going to look at something totally unexpected, a virtue(bat)-signaling liberal Hollywood movie director, then we have to go back to Lucas.

I distinctly remember George Lucas becoming increasingly disillusioned with his disgruntled fanbase over the years and being tired of fielding criticism for his half-baked ideas. Then he came across a corporate tagalong who had a major secret agenda to push and probably had some juicy dirt on the CEO simps over at Dismal. Who knows? Only compared to someone else's even worse take on the franchise did Lucas start to regain some of the respect lost, much like Snyder. In both cases, each franchise could use an extended break before they get someone in there who really loves the IP and not just for its potential profit.

If it's rare to see Comic Pros having actual friends, imagine what Hollywood elites are like. I guess Jeremy should count himself lucky Snyder didn't blame him for his daughter's suicide.

George Lucas' divorce in 1983 three weeks after Return of the Jedi hit theaters is what originally broke him. He already hated that those in the know understood that his wife Marcia was the one who saved Empire and Jedi in the editing room. Then she left him and cleaned him out financially.

If it's rare to see Comic Pros having actual friends, imagine what Hollywood elites are like.

It's not just Hollywood elite but all wealthy people. Not being able to trust ANYBODY will fuck your mind eventually. People line up to kiss your ass and agree with every stupid thing you say for a chance at a piece of that money. Especially actors/actresses and artists in general who usually don't have a brain in their heads to begin with, just a pretty face for the camera or an ephemeral talent that requires the help of handlers to monetize. They're the ones most likely to actually believe the bullshit being blown up their asses about how special and super-smart they are.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

@NasserRabadi13 launched his new IGG, Secret Comics Presents , this afternoon, & it's already over $1,200:
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Spoiler: Some of the Art

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This from the campaign page caught my eye:
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The intro at the top says "The artist of SPAWN," waaay down at the bottom of the campaign page, it says the artist worked "on A Spawn comic for Todd McFarlane."

Because I'm bored, & a kiwi, & I think Nasser always deserves a good kick, I looked up Jason Robinson on Spawn :
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It was a mini comic that came with a Spawn toy in 1994.

Is Nasser being dishonest? No, but it's a bit like a convention hyping appearances by Star Wars actors, & when you go, they're all background characters & extras. Technically true, but deceptive. Except for the B & W cover, this is the best looking art I've ever seen on one of your comics. I don't think you needed "the artist of SPAWN" bs.

Horror isn't my thing, but good luck, Nasser. It's gotta suck trying to get attention for a crowdfund during this G & G/Snyder shit.

H/t @SaidNoOneEver for the heads up about the link to the campaign

Yeah it's a bit of a stretch to say Robinson was a Spawn artist but he's a really good artist with a small youtube channel called Illustration by Design. I've been subscribed to his channel for a while, its mostly just him penciling and inking different projects.

 

[Absurdity]

George Lucas' divorce in 1983 three weeks after Return of the Jedi hit theaters is what originally broke him. He already hated that those in the know understood that his wife Marcia was the one who saved Empire and Jedi in the editing room. Then she left him and cleaned him out financially.

Yeah, I can definitely see him breaking from that initially but maybe part of working his way out of that hole was knowing he had a throng of devotees waiting to be milked eternally. The series of mediocre events that directly led to him selling his entire Star Wars legacy over to the mouse house felt like a repudiation to all the negative fan reaction he had accrued since the prequels.

I can't get it out of my head that his special connection to Disney, the only one he trusted to carry out the deal was such a talentless career-guzzling man-hating Karen-manager and of whom everyone at that infested company appears to be completely scared. It's like a window into how the upper class devolve into a hive of simp-drones at the highest levels (stupid), or a clever ruse to let the woman absorb the negative fallout from what was always a corporate objective (hilarious).

Not sure what Jeremy brings to the table here except for cheerleading the safe takes on half regurgitated past pop counterculture, but I can tell he hasn't figured out what to do once the safe takes run out.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Yeah, I can definitely see him breaking from that initially but maybe part of working his way out of that hole was knowing he had a throng of devotees waiting to be milked eternally. The series of mediocre events that directly led to him selling his entire Star Wars legacy over to the mouse house felt like a repudiation to all the negative fan reaction he had accrued since the prequels.

I can't get it out of my head that his special connection to Disney, the only one he trusted to carry out the deal was such a talentless career-guzzling man-hating Karen-manager and of whom everyone at that infested company appears to be completely scared. It's like a window into how the upper class devolve into a hive of simp-drones at the highest levels (stupid), or a clever ruse to let the woman absorb the negative fallout from what was always a corporate objective (hilarious).

Not sure what Jeremy brings to the table here except for cheerleading the safe takes on half regurgitated past pop counterculture, but I can tell he hasn't figured out what to do once the safe takes run out.

Those Disney folks were in the know about how bad Lucas was beyond the original ideas from the 1970's and they bought his rights without any intention of letting him near a camera or editing bay for their movies. They had their own woke plans for the story and justed wanted the name and builtin fandom. They blew plenty of smoke up his ass about loving his new ideas for the sequels but made sure the contract let them tell him to fuck off after he cashed their check.

Thirty years after that first witch took his soul in 1983 that second witch Kathleen Kennedy took it again. He had intended to write and direct the Disney trilogy without the stress of producing and marketing which in his mind Disney would do. The version of events presented to the public after this realization set in for Lucas was a narrative crafted to save him a bit of public shame and not diminish enthusiasm for the new movies. Lucas had no choice but to go along since he still owned a piece of the merchandising for the original characters he created but by the time he realized Disney had gamed him on that too by destroying them in favor of Rose Tico dolls and Rey lightsabers that he wouldn't get a nickel from it was too late to do anything but sulk even harder.

 

[Rupin]

Those Disney folks were in the know about how bad Lucas was beyond the original ideas from the 1970's and they bought his rights without any intention of letting him near a camera or editing bay for their movies. They had their own woke plans for the story and justed wanted the name and builtin fandom. They blew plenty of smoke up his ass about loving his new ideas for the sequels but made sure the contract let them tell him to fuck off after he cashed their check.

That was 2012, thirty years after that first witch took his soul. Then the second witch Kathleen Kennedy took it again. He had intended to write and direct the Disney trilogy without the stress of producing/marketing which in his mind Disney would do. The version of events presented to the public after this realization set in for Lucas was a narrative crafted to save him a bit of public shame and not diminish enthusiasm for the new movies. Lucas had no choice but to go along since he still owned a piece of the merchandising for the original characters he created but by the time he realized Disney had gamed him on that too by destroying them in favor of Rose Tico dolls that he wouldn't get a nickel from it was too late for him to do anything but sulk even harder.

that’s because his idea wasn’t so original. The original Star Wars premise was basically lifted from Frank Herbert’s Dune.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

that’s because his idea wasn’t so original. The original Star Wars premise was basically lifted from Frank Herbert’s Dune.

Hidden Fortress.

 

[make_it_so]

that’s because his idea wasn’t so original. The original Star Wars premise was basically lifted from Frank Herbert’s Dune.

Hidden Fortress.

Flash Gordon.

In truth there was a whole host of inspirations for George. He just happened to put them together in a way that was new and unique for the time.

 

[YesNoMaybe]

Jeremy doesn't bring anything to the table. G+G is just a platform ('my brand') and been living off the fumes of The Last Jedi. Reasoned critique or producing an actual product is beyond his scope.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

Flash Gordon.

In truth there was a whole host of inspirations for George. He just happened to put them together in a way that was new and unique for the time.

Yes, the old "Flash Gordon" and other sci-fi serials of his youth were the main inspiration. And he took some of the narrative structure of Kurosawa's films. I really don't see the connection between Star Wars and Dune.

 

[cow-wannabe]

Yes, the old "Flash Gordon" and other sci-fi serials of his youth were the main inspiration. And he took some of the narrative structure of Kurosawa's films. I really don't see the connection between Star Wars and Dune.

There's obvious stuff like Tatooine, Spice Mines, The Sarlac, but what's more there all the influence from the Dune movie that didn't get made.

There's a great documentary movie about it, which shows how the planning and recruitment for it basically inspired SW, Alien, Bladerunner, and god knows what else.

Jodorowsky's Dune - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Unverified]

Not sure what Jeremy brings to the table here except for cheerleading the safe takes on half regurgitated past pop counterculture

This is my main issue with that whole subsection of YouTube (G+G, WCBS, Anna, etc.) and their content. It's just a bunch of midwits with the same exact lukewarm take shared by everyone and repeated ad nauseum. "Lucasfilm HATES fans/men/characters/criticism!!" over and over again. We know. It was interesting three years ago, but it's really getting old now. But, as someone mentioned previously, these people NEED Lucasfilm to be trash. They have nothing without their outrage. There is no knowledge of the industry or creation of new content like you have with CG. There is nothing hopeful or inspirational. It was a necessary reaction to the mainstream's mistreatment of fans, but what now? Hollywood isn't going to change. Like others are saying, new work needs to be created. But I don't think the big brain Star Wars outrage tubers are going to be the pioneers of new entertainment.

 

[Idiot Doom Spiral]

Not sure what Jeremy brings to the table here except for cheerleading the safe takes on half regurgitated past pop counterculture, but I can tell he hasn't figured out what to do once the safe takes run out.

But, but, he streams Mario Kart every mother-loving Sunday!

 

[YesNoMaybe]

Streaming video games usually its either someone REALLY good at a game and/or an engaging personality or the simp game. Jeremy doesn't check any of those boxes.

 

[A nameless trool]

TBH I'd respect the geeks and garglers guy more if he was really some kind of racist because then he'd actually have beliefs or values beyond outrage peddling.

Jeremy sounds like an HR/PR bot that tries to pass as a human. Him talking about brand and his business actually fails to make him likeable or distinct or interesting (and for all the hate, both @FROG and the QPounder actually can talk about their businesses and come out as humans).
If he had 3 working braincells he would be doing a mix of outrage videos with small business owner stuff and have more success (early YBZ did exactly that, him saying "I have worked in X and Marvel should do Y", that is what made him stand out and currently Comics, by Pertch does the exact same thing minus the outrage). The rest of his staff is mid-tier youtubers who can't stand on their own (or, when they do, they leave his channel, like Anna did)

 

[NasserRabadi13]

Horror isn't my thing, but good luck, Nasser. It's gotta suck trying to get attention for a crowdfund during this G & G/Snyder shit.

Thanks man.

jason was on Mike‘s Cross Examinations throwing shade at Nasser. I found that to be rather odd. Like was he doing that because Mike and Nasser are at odds right now and he was just sucking up to Mike for access to his audience or is this some type of legitimate beef?


https://youtu.be/s47HvusSsSM

Jason‘s segment begins at 19 minutes into the video.

I didn't watch, but I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about. Jason and I poke fun at each other all the time, we even did on my channel last night and Jason's channel.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Since we had a Nasser update lets look at his former partner @Fathead

As far as I'm aware he also welshed on the "shipped" list "killer idea" from 9 days ago. Big surprise.


He also walked back his tracing accusations against Figaro after being embarrassed

If anybody expected the book you should add 2+ months to the timeline.

There's obvious stuff like Tatooine, Spice Mines, The Sarlac, but what's more there all the influence from the Dune movie that didn't get made.

There's a great documentary movie about it, which shows how the planning and recruitment for it basically inspired SW, Alien, Bladerunner, and god knows what else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky's_Dune

Sure you can consider some inspiration concepts, but it takes way more from WW2 movies and Westerns than Dune. I like the doco and like to place the movie in a "what if" situation, that said anybody who thinks it was feasible or would turn out good is off their rocker and needs all the meds.

 

[Newman's Own]

Marcia was the one who saved Empire and Jedi in the editing room.

Marcia saved episode four (A New Hope). Lucas showed Spielberg and others his cut of Star Wars and they ALL thought it was shit. Dejected and heartbroken George let Marcia butcher his cut in the editing room. She trimmed the unnecessary fat cleaned up the pacing and made it a legendary classic when it would have otherwise been just another scifi movie.

Screen writing legend Lawrence Kasdan is responsible for how good Empire is. The studio wasn't going to let Lucas fuck up a good thing. Lucas didn't even direct Empire and Return.

George Lucas is at his best when he's collaborating rather than leading. That's why the prequels sucked. He had to much control and even Kasdan couldn't save him from his less than classic ideas like Jar Jar and making it about a dry trade war.

Spielberg and Kasdan made Indiana Jones something special from a very good idea Lucas had. I shudder to think what it would have looked like if Lucas had written and directed it. Probably not a 4 picture franchise.

It was a mini comic that came with a Spawn toy in 1994.

Is Nasser being dishonest? No, but it's a bit like a convention hyping appearances by Star Wars actors, & when you go, they're all background characters & extras. Technically true, but deceptive.

A little deception is nothing. Nasser would give a Jabba the Hutt fan/stand in a rusty trombone behind a Pappa John's to move a few books.

I found that to be rather odd. Like was he doing that because Mike and Nasser are at odds right now and he was just sucking up to Mike for access to his audience or is this some type of legitimate beef?

Nasser used to eat shit non-stop in the glory days of CG to keep his spot on the gravy train. This is mild ribbing compared to the Nasser Piece Theater era.