#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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I love the idea that I needed to "break" with Mark Waid, but just needed the most convoluted and silly way to do it.

"I've got it. I'll have a parody account mildly rib him from the chat! Maybe TUG, who I don't even really know yet, will do it. Sure, Waid probably won't see it, but a psycho SJW might, and then he'll report it to Waid, who will then use it as a pretext to go apeshit and threaten to fuck my fans with a rusty chainsaw and never talk to me again. It's a risky maneuver, but I've just gotta end this casual professional acquaintanceship somehow. It's like an albatross."

Make room for the idea that you might be an exceptional individual.

Of course I'm exceptional! You're just a scumbag who can draw and manipulate the ever-loving shit out of everyone else around you because they're willing to simp for you. You might not have commissioned it, but you certainly ran with it and you allowed TUG and WC to run raw dog on virtually anyone who had a problem with you. Drop the pretense Froggo!


It was a fun project, glad it triggered the right people!
 
EVS not a lolcow?? Since when? Has a more duplicitous, vindictive P.O.S. existed? Every choice he makes is so obviously self-centered, self-serving and almost always wrong. He is skillful in drawing sameface, samebody stiff figures and dodging the full brunt of his terrible decisions, associations and actions... that's about it. He can't draw backgrounds. He IS a grifter. If you don't think he is a lolcow, I don't know what to tell you. There are thousands of artists that completely eclipse him in all elements of the medium and are exponentially more productive and creative, find better heroes.
 
Every choice he makes is so obviously self-centered, self-serving
Doesn't everybody do this?
and almost always wrong.
Bro. He has raised like $4,000,000 on Indiegogo. And tens of thousands on YouTube ad revenue and superchats. Not to mention the tens of thousands that DC Comics pays him for creating some of the most legendary books they've ever put out, 15+ years later because they're still in print. Your argument is invalid.
He is skillful in drawing sameface, samebody stiff figures
Typical "ETHAN BAD ARTIST" NPC response. Let me guess, next you'll criticize how he draws kneecaps.
He can't draw backgrounds.
Imagine.
He IS a grifter.
MONEY BAD!!!!!!!!!!!
There are thousands of artists that completely eclipse him in all elements of the medium and are exponentially more productive and creative, find better heroes.
Name one.
 
Doesn't everybody do this?

Bro. He has raised like $4,000,000 on Indiegogo. And tens of thousands on YouTube ad revenue and superchats. Not to mention the tens of thousands that DC Comics pays him for creating some of the most legendary books they've ever put out, 15+ years later because they're still in print. Your argument is invalid.

Typical "ETHAN BAD ARTIST" NPC response. Let me guess, next you'll criticize how he draws kneecaps.

Imagine.

MONEY BAD!!!!!!!!!!!

Name one.
Lol, really simping for daddy-sore-butts here.

Breaking apart of a thorough line of reasoning into halves to crit some and not taking the whole statement in it's entirety is retarded. You are retarded.

Success doesn't equal quality. Being a successful grifter doesn't make you not a grifter.

...even from his old staple DC I'd point to current Batman artist Jorge Jimenez, he is absolutely slaying right now. There, there is one. And he draws BACKGROUNDS. Imagine.
 
EVS not a lolcow?? Since when? Has a more duplicitous, vindictive P.O.S. existed? Every choice he makes is so obviously self-centered, self-serving and almost always wrong. He is skillful in drawing sameface, samebody stiff figures and dodging the full brunt of his terrible decisions, associations and actions... that's about it. He can't draw backgrounds. He IS a grifter. If you don't think he is a lolcow, I don't know what to tell you. There are thousands of artists that completely eclipse him in all elements of the medium and are exponentially more productive and creative, find better heroes.
@FROG is chucklecow at best, nothing about him is lolworthy.
BUT he has a talent for gathering around him herds of lolcows, so that makes him a lolcowboy of sorts.
 
Bro. He has raised like $4,000,000 on Indiegogo. And tens of thousands on YouTube ad revenue and superchats. Not to mention the tens of thousands that DC Comics pays him for creating some of the most legendary books they've ever put out, 15+ years later because they're still in print. Your argument is invalid.
LOL, DC does not pay him because of his "Legendary" status (I can't believe multiple people are saying this.) they keep giving him checks because he was on the Geoff Johns Green Lantern train at its peak and was able to nab up artist credits for a tonne the Rainbow Lanterns. Aside from that Frog is a fairly milquetoast artist to be honest.

Name one.

Liam Sharp, Best Green Lantern artist ever, blows everyone else out of the water.
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I know this should go without saying but for a movement and thread called "comicsgate" you guys really know nothing about the medium or just have some baffling takes so much so that sometimes it actively gives me headaches when I read this thread.
 
@FROG is chucklecow at best, nothing about him is lolworthy.
BUT he has a talent for gathering around him herds of lolcows, so that makes him a lolcowboy of sorts.

A lolbull? There's often a little confusion about their motivations, whether they want him to herd them to pastures green, or whether they just want him to service them.

I know this should go without saying but for a movement and thread called "comicsgate" you guys really know nothing about the medium or just have some baffling takes so much so that sometimes it actively gives me headaches when I read this thread.

I can't claim encyclopedic knowledge myself but I don't know if the subject in question has even ever declared himself to be a comics fan. He's a wannabe horror writer simping for a comic-artist-cum-grifter so that he might be permitted to gather up the pie crumbs that fall to the ground.
 
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EVS not a lolcow?? Since when? Has a more duplicitous, vindictive P.O.S. existed? Every choice he makes is so obviously self-centered, self-serving and almost always wrong. He is skillful in drawing sameface, samebody stiff figures and dodging the full brunt of his terrible decisions, associations and actions... that's about it. He can't draw backgrounds. He IS a grifter. If you don't think he is a lolcow, I don't know what to tell you. There are thousands of artists that completely eclipse him in all elements of the medium and are exponentially more productive and creative, find better heroes.

So... how come these artists that are so much better can't do what he does?
 
I can't claim encyclopedic knowledge myself but I don't know if the subject in question has even ever declared himself to be a comics fan. He's a wannabe horror writer simping for a comic-artist-cum-grifter so that he might be permitted to gather up the pie crumbs that fall to the ground.
Trust me I am well aware of Nasser's role in all this, but as to my last comment that was directed at the CG faithful and more so their creators, I don't think you need to have a autistic knowledge of comics to be able to laugh at the spergs in the comics as a whole, but it's super telling as a whole who are grifters because

A) Knowledge, I don't think it comes to a surprise to anyone that the daily CPM rats caught up in that race have little to no knowledge or care to even do the bare amount of research into topics they want to milk. So they usually just focus on Star Wars and general outrage grift content or moved into full politsperg territory and then maybe do a Marvel/DC video if they do some extremely cringe.

B) Passion, I think the passion that most of CG puts into their product is self evident, aka you're lucky if you get your book full of spelling errors and some of the worst art you can find because these people are cheap and don't know good artists when they find one. If by some miracle they do find a good artist to carry them, they'll just underpay them and get them to waste their prime drawing years working on drivel that came out of a orange autistic mans delusions.
 
So... how come these artists that are so much better can't do what he does?
Not to sound too general but most artists seem to be anti-social introverts, the exact opposite personality-type required to be a successful YouTuber. Frog wasn't a natural at it either, his first season streams were kind of cringy. But he had the perfect storm of notoriety at the right time, tons of eyes rooting for him to succeed if for no other reason to win a battle in the culture wars and a product to sell as the vehicle for those people to put $$$ into.
 
So... how come these artists that are so much better can't do what he does?
That's because I suspect they actually want to draw and make art instead of proselytizing to incels online which is how EVS makes his money. I could be wrong and all those people are down for Cyberfrogs profound stories drawn by a "legendary" artist and not just here for the culture war.
 
LOL, DC does not pay him because of his "Legendary" status (I can't believe multiple people are saying this.) they keep giving him checks because he was on the Geoff Johns Green Lantern train at its peak and was able to nab up artist credits for a tonne the Rainbow Lanterns. Aside from that Frog is a fairly milquetoast artist to be honest.



Liam Sharp, Best Green Lantern artist ever, blows everyone else out of the water.
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I know this should go without saying but for a movement and thread called "comicsgate" you guys really know nothing about the medium or just have some baffling takes so much so that sometimes it actively gives me headaches when I read this thread.
Liam Sharp is awesome. He was great on Hulk and Wonder Woman too.

I created the "Rainbow Lanterns" from the ground up. It ended up being the most profitable creation DC had for two years running, and cemented Geoff Johns' place as the GL writer of the decade. Every other artist for years followed my creative choices, and drew my characters and concepts. Many of those artists were more technically skilled than I am.

Geoff continued to always come to me for designs and inspiration, checking in with his concepts long after I left GL.

That's the difference between being a comic book artist, and a comic book creator. And a legend. Human Sunbeam.

EVS not a lolcow?? Since when? Has a more duplicitous, vindictive P.O.S. existed? Every choice he makes is so obviously self-centered, self-serving and almost always wrong. He is skillful in drawing sameface, samebody stiff figures and dodging the full brunt of his terrible decisions, associations and actions... that's about it. He can't draw backgrounds. He IS a grifter. If you don't think he is a lolcow, I don't know what to tell you. There are thousands of artists that completely eclipse him in all elements of the medium and are exponentially more productive and creative, find better heroes.
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I always forget how fucking good I am. Damn.
 
If you think Frog is a grifter and a piece of shit, like the Newmans do, TUG is ten times worse.
Why wouldn't everyone think these longtime allies were both grifting pieces of shit. They're both objectively guilty of gay ops together and through WarCampaign proxies. TUG is just ten times worse at covering his tracks and obfuscating facts.

Although, I will grant that Ethan's outrage funded comic is considerably more professional.

Isn't TUG still the primary suspect for Frog's very first approved gayop, when he rolled up a fake Mark Waid account in the chat during Waid's interview with EVS and through his hysterical overreaction afterwards gave EVS the excuse to publicly break with his "friend"?
I hadn't heard that one and while I wouldn't doubt that theory's plausibility... without some evidence it sounds like tinfoil hat shit.

I would apply Occam's Razor here and say. Some Ethan or Ya Boi Zach simp took it upon himself to create that account, have a laugh and shit played out the way it did.

Was FROG being disingenuous the whole time. I dunno. It seems likely.

Ethan going out of his way to say he would forgive some random sock account is curious though...

Do you actually believe that? Because honestly, that sounds like something only an A-logging retard would believe.
You can't imagine how you might sound to us A-loggers.

Does it taste like pepperoni and marinara sauce or body odor and Axe Bodyspray?

"I've got it. I'll have a parody account mildly rib him from the chat!
It's not uncommon. Ask Mitch and Betty.
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It's a risky maneuver, but I've just gotta end this casual professional acquaintanceship somehow. It's like an albatross."
Strawman here. You were sucking Waid and Slott's sphincters for clout in those videos trying to ride the fence and not get cancelled while still pleasing your edgy audience.

It blew up in your face and you decided to lean into the edgy side because the cancel culture was written on the wall (Waid was already notoriously underhanded, vindictive, powerful and spiteful) and your days in the mainstream were numbered. Better men than you like Dixon had already lost their spots. Your head was already on the block.

You'd still be kissing ass to the likes of Waid, Slott and Simone like you did for decades before if you hadn't realized people like you (Trump supporters) were no longer going to be tolerated by people like them.

I salute your foresight in leaving before it was obvious you were being thrown out but let's not pretend you wouldn't still be there if they still wanted you.

@FROG is chucklecow at best, nothing about him is lolworthy.
Pizza Parlour hoedowns, Ribbitcoin, sperging publicly over not being thanked at a comic panel literally no one else cares about, trolling for validation on this thread, Reeeeing about TLJ for a solid year, internet slap fights with literal nobodies like Renfamous giving them clout with actually powerful industry assholes like Joe Q, he called himself Caesar and accepted leadership of a homoerotic pack centurion LARPing WarCampaign internet retards for three years, crying that his wife got upset because some other YouTuber made a mildly critical video about an argument he had with another YouTuber. And associations with TUG, Liam, Micah, Mitch, Mike, Adam Friended, Wenger, Rekita, Quartering, Mandy Summers (and her work), Fandom Menace losers and so on.

Just off the top of my head. There's plenty more.

So... how come these artists that are so much better can't do what he does?
They don't have his Charles Manson/Jim Jones energy you find so sexy.

I created the "Rainbow Lanterns" from the ground up.
Imagine thinking the Rainbow Lanterns were a shining achievement.
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Dazzler enjoyed a brief period of popularity in super hero comics as well. Dick Grayson used to dress like the fifth member of the Village People to some acclaim.
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Get over yourself FROG.

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To lazy to draw backgrounds with any consistency would be more appropriate.

John Byrne used to do a few good backgrounds but skipped them in so many panels it was obvious he was lazy about them.
 
EVS not a lolcow?? Since when? Has a more duplicitous, vindictive P.O.S. existed? Every choice he makes is so obviously self-centered, self-serving and almost always wrong. He is skillful in drawing sameface, samebody stiff figures and dodging the full brunt of his terrible decisions, associations and actions... that's about it. He can't draw backgrounds. He IS a grifter. If you don't think he is a lolcow, I don't know what to tell you. There are thousands of artists that completely eclipse him in all elements of the medium and are exponentially more productive and creative, find better heroes.
I'm going to disagree on the cow part. I'm not going to defend Ethan and I generally stay out of the Ethan vs A-Loggers, and at times I do enjoy observing the back and forth for perspectives on both sides. A few others, myself, have stated anyone is welcome to make a thread on him given it has enough information to paint him as a cow. Now I haven't kept a hard eye on Ethan so if anyone else is able to compile his possible cowness on a thread, I welcome it. The most I've observed is his occasional retardation on Twitter but I lost interest - due mainly to the fact of other more entertaining spergs.

@A nameless trool said it best. He has cows around him that end up being more interesting specimens than Ethan himself. Over the course of time, we have showcased other cows in CG with the following:
  • Literal cucks (Donal and Preston)
  • Sucking off a poop flavored dildo (lol Preston again)
  • Numerous threatened lawsuits for posting dirty laundry
  • Degenerate loli artist and the fucks defending him
  • A male thinking it was a good idea to make his own fan movies centered around Twilight
  • A sex dungeon enthusiast
  • A surgeon who donated thousands to CG related shit and That Star Wars Girl
  • A woman who tried to send viruses who turned out to be a prostitute on top of insane
  • Fucking Liam Gray
This is just a short list. Then, there's War Campaign. I'm not even going to list everything they've done, but most notable is their attempts to gay op this thread and literally tried to claim we were setting up 'rape profiles'. Ro himself was so ass blasted that he went as far as to report me to 1776 (Null) claiming I wanted to rape his kids in a piss poor effort to get the website shut down. I am well aware Ethan was associated with these dipshits and was fine with them until the whole Anna fiasco. But that still doesn't put him on cow level, in my humble opinion. If he ever starts exhibiting some of the behavior I mentioned, sure, I'll definitely move in on him if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

But the way I see it now, he doesn't have shit on the other raging retards. If I'm wrong? By all means, make a thread. Maybe someone has evidence/archives, etc, to make a good write up.
 
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I always forget how fucking good I am. Damn.
P.O.V. is a hard thing to convey in comics, isn't it?

Even here, the most details are placid, middle ground, no character or passion. That's to say nothing of the lackluster skyline which the colorist thankfully glared out with the windows. I would compare it to the scenery and backgrounds of Zack's artist on Pandemic. You are equally as adept at backgrounds as the artist on Pandemic.
 
Pizza Parlour hoedowns, Ribbitcoin, sperging publicly over not being thanked at a comic panel literally no one else cares about, trolling for validation on this thread, Reeeeing about TLJ for a solid year, internet slap fights with literal nobodies like Renfamous giving them clout with actually powerful industry assholes like Joe Q, he called himself Caesar and accepted leadership of a homoerotic pack centurion LARPing WarCampaign internet retards for three years, crying that his wife got upset because some other YouTuber made a mildly critical video about an argument he had with another YouTuber. And associations with TUG, Liam, Micah, Mitch, Mike, Adam Friended, Wenger, Rekita, Quartering, Mandy Summers (and her work), Fandom Menace losers and so on.

Just off the top of my head. There's plenty more.
Yeah, nope.

I say that EVS is 50% narcisist and 50% a functional human being, which makes him not a cow.
I would go as far as to say that his a-loggers and stans in this board are bigger cows.

But in an industry were you have top professionals like Gail Simone and her knockoffs like Kelly Sue DeConnick, Mark Waid, Dan Slott, a guy tweeting his butthole, Warren Ellis beating his meat on cam to countless Suicide Girls wannabes, and that fucking guy who said that James Bond told him to rape women, EVS qualifies close to a model employee.


YBZ is also 50% autist and 50% a normal person, which made him 10 times more well adjusted that 90% of CG/anti-CG.
Nasser is a bigger cow than EVS and probably has the potential of a true cow but is still a few moos too short.

  • A male thinking it was a good idea to make his own fan movies centered around Twilight
  • A sex dungeon enthusiast
Da faq?!!!
 
P.O.V. is a hard thing to convey in comics, isn't it?

Even here, the most details are placid, middle ground, no character or passion. That's to say nothing of the lackluster skyline which the colorist thankfully glared out with the windows. I would compare it to the scenery and backgrounds of Zack's artist on Pandemic. You are equally as adept at backgrounds as the artist on Pandemic.
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Why does the table keep getting further away and change position in each progressive panel when the camera hasn't moved? And why does the wall with the empty 80's Ikea shelf keep moving? I mean aside from camera tilt and slight swivel the view remains stationary through the first four panels.

Using a copy of the first four panels would have been less of a fuck up.
 

Why does the table keep getting further away and change position in each progressive panel when the camera hasn't moved? And why does the wall with the empty 80's Ikea shelf keep moving? I mean aside from camera tilt and slight swivel the view remains stationary through the first four panels.

Using a copy of the first four panels would have been less of a fuck up.
The best thing is this was a prime example of what an art god he is. He was revelling in his perceived skill and blowing himself over mediocrity. It's examples like this that make him more a lolcow than not, it's the constant lack of self-awareness and over assessment of skill, it's clinical.
 
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