#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Elwood P. Dowd]

But if Englewood 2 doesn't reach its $15,000 funding goal it's the end of the road for him.

Pretty sure Micah Curtis has made "end of the road" claims before. I think at one point he made a video claiming he would delete his YouTube channel if he didn't get to a certain number of subscribers, which it did not reach, another time that he was "rebranding" it to retro-videogames and finally once did a full on three year old meltdown. Dunno if any of those videos are still up, though I do remember the last one was either deleted or privated.

This does all go back a bit, I haven't paid attention to Comicsgate's Pillsbury Doughboy in a while now.

Edit:

TLR the fanbase in Sci Fi and Fantasy is not as radicalized as in comics and there is little need for a -gate movement, because the audience has found ways to circumvent a lot of gatekeeping. This is where CG and TFM fail, they have yet to find an alternative that opens them to a wider audience.

I hope you're right, but I also don't think we really know this for a fact, in terms of units or dollars moved, since Amazon keeps these figures very close to the vest. If you have access to some solid current numbers in this area I'll not only admit you're right and I was wrong, I'll thank you for providing me information I've just never been lay my hands on. (And I've looked!)

Besides, the dangers of a monopsony (one buyer and many sellers) means you're basically fucked as an author if Amazon, for whatever reason, boots you off their platform. See here for an example.The Kindle Direct Terms of Use flat out say Amazon can remove you for any reason or no reason at any time. You're not exactly in control of your own fate under these conditions.

As an aside, and to my mind kind of curiously, the "pioneers" of self-publishing in the 21st century were all or mostly all authors of Romance, not SF&F. Decades of frustration over the dogshit contracts handed out to Romance authors by Harlequin and Silhouette drove them first to outlets like Ellora's Cave and later to Amazon. They blazed the path others, including the theoretically tech-savvy SF&F authors, have followed.

 

[jspit2.0]

Billy Tucci is launching the first Shi Omnibus tonight, and @FROG is hosting the launch:

Already over $50k on a goal of 10k. Billy has most of the pre-print work done and is hoping to get the printing started even before the campaign ends (near end of August). Dale Keown even showed up for the launch!

Billy doesn't get enough love on here. He elevates almost any stream he's on, and it's great to see a seminal title like Shi continue on, as well as now getting the back catalog back in print. For some of the indie greybeards, this could pave the way to bringing old titles back.

This isn't his first time collecting it and from what I understand

Billy's an oddity. He's a non entity in CG proper. He runs his own thing with his own crowd. His biggest culture war blows were claiming Darwyn Cooke would have been CG, walking it back due to Darwyn's wife being a cunt, and clapping back hard on Neal Adams when he said conservatives could still find work in comics.

As the omni itself, this isn't new.

He's previously put this material in omnibus form, called the Definitive Shi back in 2006.

This was a hundred pages longer, I believe BW, and cost 25 bucks. There are also dozens of trades et cet. The material he's collecting is just Way of the Warrior.

Far more interesting is later material that is poorly collected and, frankly speaking, has better art. Don't get me wrong, Way of the Warrior is the best storywise that Billy's done. But it shows he was still learning and he's a much better artist ten years later.

I wonder how The Who's Who of comic artist who worked on Shi will react to their work being reprinted?

I just backed it. It’s the first time I’ve bought any of his books. I’m looking forward to reading it.
Also Dale Keon is on EVS’s stream with Tucci. Ethan’s side of CG has gotten Uber powerful now with these heavy hitters.

Easy there. Ethan was always the mainstream guy and let's get real. None of these guys have been relevant in the mainstream in at least the last ten years.

Quick Comicsgate update:

Thanks for the meal.

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Truly some sugary shit...

So Erik lists a bunch of things he doesn't read. Basically implying he doesn't read superhero comics. Yet he makes contradictory points. If Telgamire reaches out she'll do worse, but comics should because...?

Finally, can I just ask...which books is 'for me'? Because I can't think of a single Marvel, DC, or Image book that's 'for me'.

Erik Larsen, artist, father, Image Comics CFO, coomer, took a well-deserved break from drawing Savage Dragon with one hand to type out some truly dumb shit on faceberg a couple of weeks ago, which Meyer and Frog took turns lambasting for the inherent contradiction: Raina Telgemeier and Dav Pilkey focused precisely on tailoring their product to a narrow demographic and have made more money than all of Marvel and DC combined. Marvel and DC by comparison stopped catering to their proven demographic for a phantom one and are now laying people off and cancelling titles. Therefore we should... respect Marvel and DC's decision to diversify and lose their shirts instead of giving their paying customers what they want?

Spoiler: Separated at birth?

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Billy Tucci of Shi has launched his 488 page Shi: Omnibus on Frog's channel as I post this. This can, and in my opinion should, be interpreted as a sign of Tucci's growing rift with Dynamite Comics and the ongoing problems with their collaboration with the overdue project Miss Fury. The short version: After Dynamite cancelled the Cecil Vampirella cover last year, many Comicsgaters mass refunded every Dynamite crowdfund they backed in solidarity (being under the impression from Frog that Dynamite was "pro-CG"). This resulted in the artist, Maria Sanapo, looking at the dropping sales numbers and pulling what I like to call a "Rob Willis" by washing her hands of any commitments towards completing Miss Fury and taking on other commission work. Dynamite's reaction to this was to tell the backers... in June 2021 that the artist they backed stopped working in August of last year and has no intention of coming back.

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It's okay though, they still have Gail Simone and Mark Russell guys!

https://twitter.com/arkhaven_comics/status/1417505723244744706

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Arkhaven Comics by Vox Day has worked out some kind of deal with Stonetoss in a move that is only surprising in that it's taken this long to happen. The article can be read here.



Okay, that covered we can now move on to the most important subject: Micah Curtis

07/19/2021 - MICAH CURTIS - Apathy Destroys the Small Creator: A Rant

It's been almost three weeks since Micah regaled us with his moment of eureka, of satori and, while I was tardy in updating the thread here, we do get to jump ahead 20 days and observe the results of Micah's appeals and his campaign for Englewood 2 (currently at 29% of funding goal). It's been a rough month for Micah and he has something he'd like to get off his chest. Micha is "fucking enraged" at all these people complaining about woke crap, about woke Lord of the Rings or how woke season 4 of the Mandalorian is going to be, but nobody is talking about pushing alternatives to the mainstream anymore. Back in the day, people supported alternatives. Supported Micah. But then some campaigns didn't fulfill. Some were late. Were Micah's campaigns some of those really late campaigns? Yeah. Nowadays though when youtubers rack up views complaining about the latest woke piece of shit like I Am Starfire, they're very quiet about promoting alternatives like Englewood instead. And now Micah finds himself struggling.

These people complain about Snowflake and Safespace, they complain about The Last Jedi, but not a single moment of the thousands, if not tens of thousands of hours uploaded to youtube complaining about Marvel, Disney or anything else has resulted in a change in how these megacorporations operate beyond learning the ability to ignore complaints. Another thing that Micah has noticed is that the years of coverage by youtube channels like Quartering, Clownfish and FNT of uninterrupted negativity about what new piece of culture in the news cycle like Lord of the Rings on Amazon or female Thor or whatever has resulted in an audience that feels an increasing sense of defeat against the powers that be. An increasing sense of apathy and dejection in other words. Not only have they made no difference in the face of woke SJW control over the media, but Jeremy Hamburglar's only real contribution to the culture war is to rub in whatever cultural milestone the SJWs are taking away this week, in Micah's estimation. He loves those guys though, for real.

This growing apathy, this malaise and nihilism is a mortal threat to everything Micah has been working towards for the past two years, and not just his but every small creator working to make something. Micha says there have been bigger creators who have failed in the past, but he asks the viewer,.. has he let you down? If you have been let down by Micah, like because of the time he shipped comics without being bagged and boarded, or late completion, or overall quality, well that's fair enough Micah will grant you. But if you haven't, he urges you to take a stand against nihilism by backing Englewood 2. Micah doesn't want to beg. But if Englewood 2 doesn't reach its $15,000 funding goal it's the end of the road for him. Isn't Englewood what you, the audience called out for in the face of woke entertainment? Do you want to actually do something about the state of entertainment, or do you just want to sit and complain about what you're given that week?


So is this the end for Micah Curtis? I can't say one way or another, but life can be cyclical in a way...



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Chanel Update: July

I've been busy! Getting involved in some local activities: volunteer work, comic con, working with an indie publisher.

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07/19/2021 - DAN WISE - CHANNEL UPDATE JULY

Newcomer Dan Wise has a recap for the month, of reviewing his favorite authors/coworkers at Iconic Comics Doug Ernst and Tim Lim, getting involved in local politics and working in fulfillment with an indie comic company. Busy busy busy. Will Dan, new to the cultural commentary scene, get involved further? Only time can tell.

What do we think guys? Sexual degenerate or drug induced sperg out?

Honestly surprised you didn't bring Mecha's latest sperg fest.

 

[A nameless trool]

I hope you're right, but I also don't think we really know this for a fact, in terms of units or dollars moved, since Amazon keeps these figures very close to the vest. If you have access to some solid current numbers in this area I'll not only admit you're right and I was wrong, I'll thank you for providing me information I've just never been lay my hands on. (And I've looked!)

Besides, the dangers of a monopsony (one buyer and many sellers) means you're basically fucked as an author if Amazon, for whatever reason, boots you off their platform. See here for an example.The Kindle Direct Terms of Use flat out say Amazon can remove you for any reason or no reason at any time. You're not exactly in control of your own fate under these conditions.

As an aside, and to my mind kind of curiously, the "pioneers" of self-publishing in the 21st century were all or mostly all authors of Romance, not SF&F. Decades of frustration over the dogshit contracts handed out to Romance authors by Harlequin and Silhouette drove them first to outlets like Ellora's Cave and later to Amazon. They blazed the path others, including the theoretically tech-savvy SF&F authors, have followed.

You can find the approximate volume of sales for every amazon book

Success stories of all sorts of indie ebooks are available in closed facebook groups. Yes, it is mostly romance and mystery, but military sci-fi had a good sales track, to the point that there is a whole marketing guide writen with a military sci fi book as a success story. Current best selling military sci-fi indie book "sells" an estimated 480 copies a day and it is overall 321 in the bestselling ebooks. At $0.29 royalties per book sold this is not a ton of money, but with a series of books after it that people will binge-read, this can lead to some serious cash.

The danger of putting all your eggs in one basket is also known and good authors do make contigencies about it (mailing lists and wide releases).

We are anonymous here and we do not powerlevel, but these are info one can find if they decide to research the market.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

A well packaged, attractively priced volume of reprinted material is simply a better option than the product Micah is offering

I've been reading quite a few noname indie manga creators's work and from what I can gather about their work cycle they do rough, almost sketchy work that they publish on pixiv (nippon deviantart) and if it gains enough traction some small publisher funds volume releases with redrawn art and some extra content thrown in for good measure. Couldn't something like this work for most indies around here? Just replace "some small publisher" with crowdfunding. Because as it stand a bunch of literal whos are trying to pass their work for the same(ish) price as established comic veterans and we can see how it's turning out.

 

[Miniluv]

I've been reading quite a few noname indie manga creators's work and from what I can gather about their work cycle they do rough, almost sketchy work that they publish on pixiv (nippon deviantart) and if it gains enough traction some small publisher funds volume releases with redrawn art and some extra content thrown in for good measure. Couldn't something like this work for most indies around here? Just replace "some small publisher" with crowdfunding. Because as it stand a bunch of literal whos are trying to pass their work for the same(ish) price as established comic veterans and we can see how it's turning out.

I don't see how trying something like that would hurt. Maybe they could also do something like having 10 creators crowdfund a Jump "phonebook" style thing with chapters of different stories under one cover, coming out on a regular basis with the money being split among the creators. When each story gets enough chapters, the creator can then fund a collected edition of just their stuff.

Anything would be better than trying to sell individual $25 floppies with high school level art and then begging the internet for backers.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

Maybe they could also do something like having 10 creators crowdfund a Jump "phonebook" style thing with chapters of different stories under one cover

I think I remember Warcampaign trying to do something like this a year or two ago with their creators. What happened with that? IIRC they managed to get one issue out.

 

[Miniluv]

I think I remember Warcampaign trying to do something like this a year or two ago with their creators. What happened with that? IIRC they managed to get one issue out.

Oh yeah, CG Jumpstart. I guess it imploded like everything those limpdicks touched.

The concept could probably work much better if not overseen by a bunch of faggots.

Edit: Forgot the actual name for WCs gay anthology.

 

[Idiot Doom Spiral]

Slightly O/T, but I had the FNT episode from 8th July on in the background earlier (guesting Critical Drinker and Chrissie Mayr; trying to find the Az/EVS rant). Shortly after commencing the first tranche of superchats, Gary read one which caused him to candidly state something along the lines of:

“I love FNT, I look forward to doing it all week, to the point where… I can’t be bothered to…. do any regular content *laugh laugh laugh*”

And who can blame him? I too would quit my day job and be fucking LOVING it if I could rake in countless superchats between $50 and $500 dollars, for spending 3 hours acting righteously indignant about ‘teh mainstream’ and SJW cancer, whilst reading said superchats with all the aplomb of a cerebral palsy sufferer delivering a passage from a Dostoevsky novel.

Some might say that was a revealing moment - but Gary was of course just joking around, right guyse?

 

[Mister Dongs]

I think I remember Warcampaign trying to do something like this a year or two ago with their creators. What happened with that? IIRC they managed to get one issue out.

CG Jumpstart, it was meant to be a Comicsgate crowdfund promotional magazine in the vein of Wizard. Ignoring the problems like the decline of print journalism in general, the lack of market for a $25 shill comic, and the superfluousness of it with CG's online presence, it was envisioned as a place where (in reaction to Indiecron, a crowdfund aggregate site that WC railed against for allowing non-CG projects on) CG projects only were promoted (as determined by Warcampaign, obviously). So it was rather funny that by the time CG Jumpstart was ready to launch, neither cover artist Andrew Huerta or Warcampaign themselves were considered Comicsgate. There are two stories regarding what happened.

Ro Kabir's story is that when the fight over Anna turned hot, former core Warcampaign member and CG Jumpstart editor Steve Dye got cold feet about being persona non grata within Comicsgate, accepted Frog's offer of amnesty and held on to the print files. Testefy_HD the apostate has a similar story, but what actually happened was that Ro never hammered out a formal contract with Steve Dye and when he quit without payment they had no right to use his work. In this case I'm inclined to believe Testefy because Ro uploaded a video of a completed proof copy of CG Jumpstart to twitter, which he couldn't do if he didn't have possession of some file.

Either way, no issue came out.

Billy's an oddity. He's a non entity in CG proper. He runs his own thing with his own crowd.

On one hand, Billy Tucci has always said he's not Comicsgate. Which is understandable for someone with decades of connections in the comic book industry. On the other hand, Tucci is a lot more involved with the "comicsgate community" then a lot of people that have formally declared themselves to be CG. Him launching his campaigns on Frog's channel is one thing (a big thing), but he's a regular supporter, host and guest for smaller operations like Art Thibert's "Brofessionals" panel, Charlie's London and Mandy Summers.

 

[FROG]

I'm pulling back on this idea of "declaring ComicsGate." It seems like appearing with me on a livestream in a friendly way sends the same message anyhow.

 

[CapeKnight]

I'm pulling back on this idea of "declaring ComicsGate." It seems like appearing with me on a livestream in a friendly way sends the same message anyhow.

Does that mean Donny Cates is ComicsGate anyhow?

 

[FROG]

Does that mean Donny Cates is ComicsGate anyhow?

"In a friendly way." Donny Cates was there to be adversarial. although he did take a beating from other SJWs for his appearance on my show. Not to mention, Marvel editorial allegedly took him to the woodshed.

 

[Greed]

Does that mean Donny Cates is ComicsGate anyhow?

Asking a guest to say "Hi comicsgate" is a bit different than requiring them declare fealty to a cause. I actually kind of like the "Hi comicsgate" gimmick because it's so exceedingly simple and goes over 90% of people's heads anyway.

 

[Absurdity]

LOL.

Ribbity Rabadi Sciver Poo
Tell me, tell me, tell me do
Magic mirror, please tell me today
Did all of our friends go piggypay?

 

[jspit2.0]

I'm pulling back on this idea of "declaring ComicsGate." It seems like appearing with me on a livestream in a friendly way sends the same message anyhow.

A good move to give future squishes an out.

I have reviewed the Shi Omni launch stream.

Billy Tucci is launching the first Shi Omnibus tonight, and @FROG is hosting the launch:

Already over $50k on a goal of 10k. Billy has most of the pre-print work done and is hoping to get the printing started even before the campaign ends (near end of August). Dale Keown even showed up for the launch!

Billy doesn't get enough love on here. He elevates almost any stream he's on, and it's great to see a seminal title like Shi continue on, as well as now getting the back catalog back in print. For some of the indie greybeards, this could pave the way to bringing old titles back.

* Billy in earlier streams nagged Ethan for a Shi Omni stream and the evidence as to why is here. As of this writing Shi has garnered 74 K off of 600 backers. Which puts Billy and Shi at the top of the CG crowdfunding stack for material that is both widely available and at a much more affordable price. The power of the AllCaps pay piggies. Speaking of, Mr. Piggons is still oinking around it appears.

* Of note. Roughly half of Shi's take is due to tack ons. The omni is priced at 60 bucks. The actual book selling to 600 people would only have grossed 36 K without the crap thrown in such as a twenty dollar coin (1 backer), a soundtrack (3 backers), a sketch edition, once you subtract the omni, netted Billy an additional 3,250 bucks, and a piece of original art for 2 K!

* Billy explicitly came back to this page deeply upsetting the comic industry

* Considering the industry of comics lavishes love on Preacher (nudity, rape, mutilation), Watchmen (rape, sex, genocide, nudity), and Miracleman (Literally vile in all ways) and Billy was/is beloved by comic book pros; I question how much blow back he received.

* The stream does have Dale Keown. But its mostly wasted. Little more than allusions are made to the work they produced or to craft. Most of the conversation features these boring people talking about their personal lives. Billy is obsessed with his height and showing off his wife. They briefly mention cons, but don't get into it.

* This is the ultimate false advertising as a channel that calls itself Comic Artist Pro Secrets has three industry insiders and spills next to no tea or gossip. Instead these fat boomers listen to Ethan cry about Gina Carano and how he can't enjoy Disney!!! (He really liked Mando and WandaVision explaining allot of how he fit in with the people who creatively destroyed DC comics).

* Richard Meyer comes up like a bad STD. Ethan continues to damage control the 'founder of Comicsgate'. Cecil, who wandered in and contributed nothing of value, does the usual quoting himself about how Dickie Meyers started CG because they all met in D&C's Livechat. Ethan admits he knows nothing about Richard and that Simple Zach has adamantly asked that he not be labeled. I would ask, why does Cecil and Ethan continue to disregard the wishes of someone they claim to love and respect? Especially counter factually as Richard neither founded CG or really introduced anything original. His biggest contribution was being neither as retarded as Cap Cummings or boring as Doug Earnst.

The stream went too long and it largely had little to do with anything Ethan has any actual valuable input. I actually laughed when Jon Malin left to go to another stream to actually talk about comics.

On one hand, Billy Tucci has always said he's not Comicsgate. Which is understandable for someone with decades of connections in the comic book industry. On the other hand, Tucci is a lot more involved with the "comicsgate community" then a lot of people that have formally declared themselves to be CG. Him launching his campaigns on Frog's channel is one thing (a big thing), but he's a regular supporter, host and guest for smaller operations like Art Thibert's "Brofessionals" panel, Charlie's London and Mandy Summers.

I always wondered at that. I think he's a better fit for Ethan's CG 3.0 than for CG 1.5 that he initially came bumbling into and promptly ran away from. Less consumer advocate and more creative pro advocate.

 

[FROG]

According to Comic Book Hut, Doug TenNapel's 6th YouTube channel got taken down last night.

Hut struggles with the justice of this, as Doug skirts his YouTube ban half a dozen times, and is caught each time. In a world where others are allowed to laugh at Tess Fowler getting sick, or tell other people to "Minecraft themselves," why is Doug, who was only talking about the election, the only one punished?

https://youtu.be/RLvlko9ZprQ

A good move to give future squishes an out.

I have reviewed the Shi Omni launch stream.



* Billy in earlier streams nagged Ethan for a Shi Omni stream and the evidence as to why is here. As of this writing Shi has garnered 74 K off of 600 backers. Which puts Billy and Shi at the top of the CG crowdfunding stack for material that is both widely available and at a much more affordable price. The power of the AllCaps pay piggies. Speaking of, Mr. Piggons is still oinking around it appears.

* Of note. Roughly half of Shi's take is due to tack ons. The omni is priced at 60 bucks. The actual book selling to 600 people would only have grossed 36 K without the crap thrown in such as a twenty dollar coin (1 backer), a soundtrack (3 backers), a sketch edition, once you subtract the omni, netted Billy an additional 3,250 bucks, and a piece of original art for 2 K!

* Billy explicitly came back to this page deeply upsetting the comic industry

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* Considering the industry of comics lavishes love on Preacher (nudity, rape, mutilation), Watchmen (rape, sex, genocide, nudity), and Miracleman (Literally vile in all ways) and Billy was/is beloved by comic book pros; I question how much blow back he received.

* The stream does have Dale Keown. But its mostly wasted. Little more than allusions are made to the work they produced or to craft. Most of the conversation features these boring people talking about their personal lives. Billy is obsessed with his height and showing off his wife. They briefly mention cons, but don't get into it.

* This is the ultimate false advertising as a channel that calls itself Comic Artist Pro Secrets has three industry insiders and spills next to no tea or gossip. Instead these fat boomers listen to Ethan cry about Gina Carano and how he can't enjoy Disney!!! (He really liked Mando and WandaVision explaining allot of how he fit in with the people who creatively destroyed DC comics).

* Richard Meyer comes up like a bad STD. Ethan continues to damage control the 'founder of Comicsgate'. Cecil, who wandered in and contributed nothing of value, does the usual quoting himself about how Dickie Meyers started CG because they all met in D&C's Livechat. Ethan admits he knows nothing about Richard and that Simple Zach has adamantly asked that he not be labeled. I would ask, why does Cecil and Ethan continue to disregard the wishes of someone they claim to love and respect? Especially counter factually as Richard neither founded CG or really introduced anything original. His biggest contribution was being neither as retarded as Cap Cummings or boring as Doug Earnst.

The stream went too long and it largely had little to do with anything Ethan has any actual valuable input. I actually laughed when Jon Malin left to go to another stream to actually talk about comics.



I always wondered at that. I think he's a better fit for Ethan's CG 3.0 than for CG 1.5 that he initially came bumbling into and promptly ran away from. Less consumer advocate and more creative pro advocate.

Yeah, why don't you leave this kind of thing to Smug Frieza and Mr. Dongs, JSpit?

 

[A nameless trool]

According to Comic Book Hut, Doug TenNapel's 6th YouTube channel got taken down last night.

Hut struggles with the justice of this, as Doug skirts his YouTube ban half a dozen times, and is caught each time. In a world where others are allowed to laugh at Tess Fowler getting sick, or tell other people to "Minecraft themselves," why is Doug, who was only talking about the election, the only one punished?

https://youtu.be/RLvlko9ZprQ

Because some normal people would love cancer getting some Tess Fowler.

And also because Doug is doing the one thing that makes Youtube look bad, selling copium to Trump supporters.

Also, watching the latest YBZ videos it feels to me like he is going through his own ribbidcoin saga and like @FROG going full cow over @VIkkiVerse he will also rebound after a while, once he fulfills Expendables.

Also,watching him reviewing comics he likes is a treat. It does not bring as many views as ragebait, but it feels really good to watch.

 

[Greed]

* Richard Meyer comes up like a bad STD. Ethan continues to damage control the 'founder of Comicsgate'. Cecil, who wandered in and contributed nothing of value, does the usual quoting himself about how Dickie Meyers started CG because they all met in D&C's Livechat. Ethan admits he knows nothing about Richard and that Simple Zach has adamantly asked that he not be labeled. I would ask, why does Cecil and Ethan continue to disregard the wishes of someone they claim to love and respect? Especially counter factually as Richard neither founded CG or really introduced anything original. His biggest contribution was being neither as retarded as Cap Cummings or boring as Doug Earnst.

Early Meyer had a Norm McDonald quality where he was able to make basic observations in the dumbest way possible, but something about the way he said it was incredibly endearing. This was during the peak of people in creative fields preaching to fans with socially-codified doublespeak, so to have this absolute normie come along and go "boy this looks dumb" *RIIIIIP* felt genuine and refreshing by contrast.
I'm saddened by the direction things have gone with Meyer. When he and Frog stream together, just the two of them, it's some of my favorite content Comicsgate has to offer. Unfortunately I don't know if that will ever happen again.
As annoying as I find Meyer's stubbornness, I can somewhat understand it. You can tell me to watch a movie a hundred times, and each time you tell me to watch it, you're only prolonging the time before I actually do. The only way to actually get me to watch something is to plant the idea in my head and wait until I forget about the conversation. Meyer is the same way. He needs and idea to feel fresh, to feel new, and more than anything, to feel like HIS idea. He will never embrace an idea unless you're able to convince him that he's the one who came up with it. This isn't Frog's strong suit. Frog's approach is to gently nudge a person in his desired direction, repeatedly, over time, contrasting the positives of his option against the negatives of the alternative. This is a perfectly effective persuasion tactic for 95% of people, but it will NEVER work on Richard C. Meyer. The more Meyer is pushed to the forefront of Comicsgate and lionized as a saint, the more he will subconsciously thrash about and reject everything that's being forced upon him, often at the peril of those doing the lionizing. This is a man who needs to be dealt with like water. You can't push water in a desired direction, but you can create avenues for it to travel, paths of least resistance. Until Frog understands this and learns to work around it, the gap between Meyer's actions and the primary Comicsgate narrative will only widen.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

Ethan admits he knows nothing about Richard

This is honestly surprising, partly because I've heard so much about 'talking to my friend on the phone', partly because each of Richards videos comes with a generous side of stream of consciousness and autistic minutiae about how his day went.

The more Meyer is pushed to the forefront of Comicsgate and lionized as a saint, the more he will subconsciously thrash about and reject everything that's being forced upon him, often at the peril of those doing the lionizing.

He's not the messiah, he's ya very naughty boi.

 

[Least Concern]

According to Comic Book Hut, Doug TenNapel's 6th YouTube channel got taken down last night.

Hut struggles with the justice of this, as Doug skirts his YouTube ban half a dozen times, and is caught each time. In a world where others are allowed to laugh at Tess Fowler getting sick, or tell other people to "Minecraft themselves," why is Doug, who was only talking about the election, the only one punished?

https://youtu.be/RLvlko9ZprQ

Maybe it's time he tries Dlive or Odyssey or any of the other less censorious alternatives out there. The definition of insanity is…