#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Stoneheart]

We all know Doug TenNapel is too much of a boomer to know what a VPN he is. Within microseconds of registering a new account or borrowing someone else's password, a script detecting his IP address has already flagged the account as belong to a QAnon conspiracy theory peddler with a history of ban evasion.

they banned alot of people talking about the AZ audits in the last weeks. they dont want the informations out...

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

More breadtubers are testing the waters with Comicsgate-related content, in this case The Serfs made a reaction video to Forced Adversity's video, wherein the pudgy neckbearded bespectacled man challenged Meyer to meet him face to face and settle this like men, "ya bitchass cuuuck". Something for Commie Mark to look at I guess.

Why do these people give a shit, one way or the other? If ComicsGate is a scam, then the people being scammed are (in theory) people breadtubers think have everything but cloven hooves and horns on their heads. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy Zach's Dilbert tier artwork with pastel backgrounds, etc.

The spergout over Zach's spergout over the Domino comic was comedy gold though. I honestly haven't laughed that hard in a while. Now all I need is somebody to add another layer of reaction so we can have the first steps in an infinite regress of autism or something. (And THAT was really the best they could find?)

 

[A nameless trool]

More breadtubers are testing the waters with Comicsgate-related content, in this case The Serfs made a reaction video to Forced Adversity's video, wherein the pudgy neckbearded bespectacled man challenged Meyer to meet him face to face and settle this like men, "ya bitchass cuuuck". Something for Commie Mark to look at I guess.

I believe that the M-She-U discussion made a lot of people notice that CG existed for quite a while.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

We all know Doug TenNapel is too much of a boomer to know what a VPN he is. Within microseconds of registering a new account or borrowing someone else's password, a script detecting his IP address has already flagged the account as belong to a QAnon conspiracy theory peddler with a history of ban evasion.

It's almost August and that was January. I wonder how much longer Doug will keep searching for another fix after that fleeting taste of Youtube fame.

TWO MORE WEEKS. TRUST THE PLAN.

 

[Greed]

COMIC INDUSTRY COLLAPSE! SJW pros SOBBING about ROYALTIES and PAY!

After seven harrowing minutes of boomer intros, Frog kicks off the show in high spirits by reading a salvo of superchats. Karl O'Rowe is mentioned and Frog makes it clear that he hasn't heard from the lad in a while, and even if he had he's not interested in publishing DEATHSWORN, as Karl O'Rowe is not a close friend. Given that it's been literally years since we've heard from young Karl, and the last time we did he became so intoxicated that he mistook a computer mouse for a phone, I'm inclined to agree with Frog's decision on this one.

The topic moves to the new He-Man series, which Frog insists on pronouncing as "heeman" for some reason, and insists the show is just an allegory for penis envy. Frog explains that he only watched "heeman" because it came on before Transformers, forcing him to "put up with that homosexuality" until 4pm. He ponders why anyone would watch He-Man, conveniently leaving out the anecdote that he was at one point a fan of "heeman" until based Holiday Van Sciver informed him that it was gay shit.

Frog once again touches on "bisexual lighting", which is apparently also known as "trans coloring", and proceeds to show several examples of this. While he's correct in his assessment that purple/blue have become popular colors in entertainment, I think he's forgetting that ten years ago the same exact thing was being done with orange/cyan. Color schemes come and go like fads, and I'm not sure if it's worth tying them to specific social elements. That said, I can't fault someone for noticing patterns.

The next few minutes are spent reiterating the core tenants of Comicsgate, his customer service policy, and discussing Cyberfrog toys and other various Comicsgate products coming out soon. He contrasts his "small mom and pop business" with Hasbro, who were apparently recently exposed for pushing critical race theory. He reveals some new stretch goals, including a Vyzpyzz Larvae, Skeleton Hive Playset, and a variant Heather Swain. Frankly I haven't seen Frog this hyped about something since he announced Bloodhoney.

About an hour in, Frog touches on the topic at hand: the disparity between observable reality and the reported success of mainstream comics in the past year. He ruminates that manga is connecting with the kids the same way Marvel comics connected with him when he was a kid. He also points out that younger kids would rather read YA novels than comics. Personally I was just surprised to learn that young kids still read for entertainment. He moves on to reviewing an article about the return of Valiant Entertainment, of which he admittedly cares very little about. Despite this apathy, he spends nearly a half hour reading various hot takes about the situation. He mocks a twitter thread in which a couple of nobodies are crying about corpos invading their playpen and ruining everything for their own personal gain, cleverly pointing out that you could replace any mention of "corporate scumbags" with "social justice warriors" and the statements would still be accurate.

Frog receives a superchat asking about For the Fans Fest. He reveals that he's in contact with a company that promotes and organizes conventions, but specifies that the entire convention will be crowdfunded via Indiegogo. The plan is to rent a hotel ballroom and set up artists alley with free tables for Comicsgate creators. I'm interested to hear Frog's security proposal, considering this convention will have a sizable rogues gallery of blue checkmarks who aren't above doing things like calling in fake bomb threats.

The topic of social grooming is brought up. Frog makes it a point to clarify that he is not referring to the brand of grooming that occurred between Doug TenNapel and Nasser Rabadi, but instead the literal act of animals licking each other. I believe Frog's intent was to compare the act of social grooming to the way comic pros on twitter swoon over each other, but the analogy falls flat when it becomes clear that social grooming is actually a boon to mental, physical and social health, all of which comic pros lack. Frog questions why he is considered a "less favored partner" and wonders why none of these people are licking HIS fur. He spends roughly four minutes reading the wikipedia page on "social grooming" out loud, before seeming to realize he has no point and dropping the subject altogether.

After being asked to do more draw streams, Frog airs a Facebook-exclusive PSA he made about tick bites and Lyme disease. It's surprisingly informative.

Resident sex pest and ephebophile Amargad asks Frog if he intends on helping out Captain Chokeout "with his box". Apparently Chokeout had his frog box delivered to his ex-wife who he hates, and this is somehow Frog's responsibility to fix. One wonders how this is even possible. Does he not know his own address? Did he place an order and then get a divorce in the time it's taken for the frog box to be produced? Either way I found this humorous.

Frog elaborates on his vision for the future of Comicsgate, in which some of the bigger names create their own publishing brands and then absorb all the smaller creators floating around out there. He's very specific that this would be multiple small publishers rather than one big one because it compartmentalizes Comicsgate and makes it a harder target.

Frog spends the final ten minutes of the stream revisiting the various nobodies on twitter crying about Valiant, and at this point I can no longer pretend to care about this topic.

It's also worth mentioning that the 23rd is Dale Keown's birthday, so Happy 59th Birthday to Dale.

 

[Fearlessjay]

I did wonder what happened to Karl O' Rowe. That was probably one of Frog's most entertaining streams when he fell down the stairs and had the drunken your my best friend what's the meaning of life moment. Funnily enough I didn't back him. I do wonder if he ever released his comic.

 

[Rupin]

I did wonder what happened to Karl O' Rowe. That was probably one of Frog's most entertaining streams when he fell down the stairs and had the drunken your my best friend what's the meaning of life moment. Funnily enough I didn't back him. I do wonder if he ever released his comic.

nope. The last update was a month ago,

DEATHSWORN : Book One

Solar vampires are taking over the galaxy. One man stands against them, DEATHSWORN. 80+pg Comic. | Check out 'DEATHSWORN : Book One' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

 

[Greed]

I did wonder what happened to Karl O' Rowe. That was probably one of Frog's most entertaining streams when he fell down the stairs and had the drunken your my best friend what's the meaning of life moment. Funnily enough I didn't back him. I do wonder if he ever released his comic.

I backed him. Haven't received anything yet. He posts updates on Indiegogo around once a month. We'll see what happens.

 

[EGB]

Did a quick survey of CG campaigns - clicking through contributors it's amazing how many backers - make multiple contributions - you can multiply backer numbers by a coefficient of 0.65 to 0.80 to approximate the actual unique backers.

Frog's army of CyberSimps is kookier and cultier by the day. Here one of Ethan's devotees is lecturing an aspiring simp about not being sufficiently devoted to Ethan. CG is Scientology for comic nerds.

Questions:
1. Why do the toys not come with a Cyberfrog Comic - McFarlane included one with his campaign?

2. Is this a Chinese factory making the toys, those require close project management and you can add on a year+ to whatever the projected delivery date is?

 

[Rupin]

Did a quick survey of CG campaigns - clicking through contributors it's amazing how many backers - make multiple contributions - you can multiply backer numbers by a coefficient of 0.65 to 0.80 to approximate the actual unique backers.

Frog's army of CyberSimps is kookier and cultier by the day. Here one of Ethan's devotees is lecturing an aspiring simp about not being sufficiently devoted to Ethan. CG is Scientology for comic nerds.

Questions:
1. Why do the toys not come with a Cyberfrog Comic - McFarlane included one with his campaign?

2. Is this a Chinese factory making the toys, those require close project management and you can add on a year+ to whatever the projected delivery date is?

1. unlike McFarlane, EVS is offering four figures plus add on’s with every stretch goal that’s hit. So adding a comic book would be counterproductive when he still has to fulfill Rekt Planet which includes at least three comics on its own, plus a Salamandroid figure.

2. it is a Chinese Factory, you’d have to ask EVS himself what the logistics on that is, but he already has the paint masters so production could very well be on it’s way. Plus he still Has to hit funding on the project, which is like 100k away. But that’s easy for EVS.

 

[A nameless trool]

Frog elaborates on his vision for the future of Comicsgate, in which some of the bigger names create their own publishing brands and then absorb all the smaller creators floating around out there. He's very specific that this would be multiple small publishers rather than one big one because it compartmentalizes Comicsgate and makes it a harder target.

He is wrong on this one. It is easier to attack smaller targets one by one than one big target that can take the hits. After a point, you can do everything in house and don't care about twitter idiots.
My guess is, he does not want to take on all the riffraff of CG in AllCaps.

 

[Unverified]

I did wonder what happened to Karl O' Rowe. That was probably one of Frog's most entertaining streams when he fell down the stairs and had the drunken your my best friend what's the meaning of life moment. Funnily enough I didn't back him. I do wonder if he ever released his comic.

Deathsworn has joined the prestigious Year Late Club™. In fact, I'll post the books I'm still waiting on that are over a year late along with their original estimated delivery dates. I mark down all estimated delivery dates as I back books, so some of these may have been updated by the creators. Though that doesn't really matter to me, as it's still a late book even if you update your estimate.

Sovereign (May 2019)
Shinobi Sasquatch (October 2019)
Deathsworn (March 2020)
Oddity (March 2020)
Nina & Ariel (March 2020)
The Gods Fear Me (April 2020)
The Expendables Go to Hell (May 2020)

Several more books will join this list if they don't fulfill within the next few months.

 

[Absurdity]

The next few minutes are spent reiterating the core tenants of Comicsgate, his customer service policy, and discussing Cyberfrog toys and other various Comicsgate products coming out soon. He contrasts his "small mom and pop business" with Hasbro, who were apparently recently exposed for pushing critical race theory. He reveals some new stretch goals, including a Vyzpyzz Larvae, Skeleton Hive Playset, and a variant Heather Swain. Frankly I haven't seen Frog this hyped about something since he announced Bloodhoney.

He should be excited, he doesn't have to make another comic book and gets paid to approve the work of others! Dealing with Chinese shipping schedules is going to continue to be absolutely poetic for Comicslate. Expect 6 months to a year in delays. Looking at the toys though, it confirms what I've thought about the overall property: he should have killed off the frog and made it all about the space hornets, since Cyberfrog is basically as hip and as outdated as current year Bart Simpson in a Halloween special. Space hornets at least had a decent horror element until ruined of course by the lame Looney Tune self stand-in but to each his own...




Eventually!

 

[Greed]

He should be excited, he doesn't have to make another comic book and gets paid to approve the work of others! Dealing with Chinese shipping schedules is going to continue to be absolutely poetic for Comicslate. Expect 6 months to a year in delays. Looking at the toys though, it confirms what I've thought about the overall property: he should have killed off the frog and made it all about the space hornets, since Cyberfrog is basically as hip and as outdated as current year Bart Simpson in a Halloween special. Space hornets at least had a decent horror element until ruined of course by the lame Looney Tune self stand-in but to each his own...




Eventually!

Personally I would have leaned more on Heather Swain. That character has really taken off in popularity, even surpassing Cyberfrog himself if figure sales are any indicator. Funny how all it takes to make a popular female character is to have her be a somewhat normal, healthy looking woman with relatable priorities.

As for the Vyzpyzz, I'd love to see them go in a Chimera Ants direction, evolving to incorporate human personality traits and becoming more complex foes. Not too sure Frog can write on that level, but one can dream.

 

[Rupin]

Personally I would have leaned more on Heather Swain. That character has really taken off in popularity, even surpassing Cyberfrog himself if figure sales are any indicator. Funny how all it takes to make a popular female character is to have her be a somewhat normal, healthy looking woman with relatable priorities.

As for the Vyzpyzz, I'd love to see them go in a Chimera Ants direction, evolving to incorporate human personality traits and become more complex foes. Not too sure Frog can write on that level, but one can dream.

Vyspyzz seem boring to me. I mean we don’t know enough about them and there only seem to be one type with a glaring weakness not being able to see red or fly around in tight spaces. Like no one could figure out how to beat them in twenty years? It feels like kind of a stretch to believe that even if they are giant wasps.

 

[Absurdity]

The horror element gets lost the moment you introduce super-powered heroes. It's still limited, but it would have been more effective with regular humans. As it is, most of the human race is gone anyway so they basically won. Not for the TMNT April O'Neil fetishists I guess, but what is there to really fight for or defend? Cyberfrog is literally late and hermaphroditic to his own timeline.

 

[TiredAndInked]

Deathsworn has joined the prestigious Year Late Club™. In fact, I'll post the books I'm still waiting on that are over a year late along with their original estimated delivery dates. I mark down all estimated delivery dates as I back books, so some of these may have been updated by the creators. Though that doesn't really matter to me, as it's still a late book even if you update your estimate.

Sovereign (May 2019)
Shinobi Sasquatch (October 2019)
Deathsworn (March 2020)
Oddity (March 2020)
Nina & Ariel (March 2020)
The Gods Fear Me (April 2020)
The Expendables Go to Hell (May 2020)

Several more books will join this list if they don't fulfill within the next few months.

We have similar tastes, and the same horrible judgement.

 

[FROG]

Did a quick survey of CG campaigns - clicking through contributors it's amazing how many backers - make multiple contributions - you can multiply backer numbers by a coefficient of 0.65 to 0.80 to approximate the actual unique backers.

Frog's army of CyberSimps is kookier and cultier by the day. Here one of Ethan's devotees is lecturing an aspiring simp about not being sufficiently devoted to Ethan. CG is Scientology for comic nerds.

Questions:
1. Why do the toys not come with a Cyberfrog Comic - McFarlane included one with his campaign?

2. Is this a Chinese factory making the toys, those require close project management and you can add on a year+ to whatever the projected delivery date is?

1. They might eventually come with one. We're trying to raise the bare minimum amount of money to make 4 very sophisticated action figures on bubble cards. If we raise more money, there's every chance that we will include a black and white reprint of BLOODHONEY, like Todd did with SPAWN. It's crowdfunding. It takes time. Let's just get the toys paid for first, Methwin.

2. ALL CAPS COMICS has employed a production team that has made hundreds and hundreds of action figures for various companies that you've heard of, and brought them to market. That's how we've come this far. We just got finished producing two beautiful PVCs over in China, and we're confident that we can do this, and many other projects with success.

How are things going, after driving Smiller into poverty and madness, and disgracing yourself and the Hawaiian GOP? Good?

 

[EGB]

1. unlike McFarlane, EVS is offering four figures plus add on’s with every stretch goal

that’s hit. So adding a comic book would be counterproductive when he still has to fulfill Rekt Planet which includes at least three comics on its own, plus a Salamandroid figure.

2. it is a Chinese Factory, you’d have to ask EVS himself what the logistics on that is, but he already has the paint masters so production could very well be on it’s way. Plus he still Has to hit funding on the project, which is like 100k away. But that’s easy for EVS.

1. They might eventually come with one. We're trying to raise the bare minimum amount of money to make 4 very sophisticated action figures on bubble cards. If we raise more money, there's every chance that we will include a black and white reprint of BLOODHONEY, like Todd did with SPAWN. It's crowdfunding. It takes time. Let's just get the toys paid for first, Methwin.

2. ALL CAPS COMICS has employed a production team that has made hundreds and hundreds of action figures for various companies that you've heard of, and brought them to market. That's how we've come this far. We just got finished producing two beautiful PVCs over in China, and we're confident that we can do this, and many other projects with success.

How are things going, after driving Smiller into poverty and madness, and disgracing yourself and the Hawaiian GOP? Good?

You are fun Ethan.

I remember thinking - Ethan's ego will not allow him to bear any critical questions - and he will likely mention politics or Mike.

We get invited back to participate in the local GOP all the time we registered more local Republicans than anyone in the past 10 years.

Mike seems like he is doing well - it also seems like he made the intelligent decision to decouple his livelihood from anything that you could directly influence via your super fans.

This is why CG has been reduced down to about 1,500 core purchasers. Your sycophants flail at anyone you point at. That's good for you from the context of control but for broader adoption a middle nerd cult isn't appealing to a wider audience.

Arguing with the Geek and Gamers and Friday Night Tight crew sounds like it was ego driven rather than rational - they have captured a big slice of the emotionally incontinent nostalgia driven nerds who spend money impulsively.

I didn't fully grasp how much a few hundred super backers are responsible for a huge chunk of purchases - this spendy cultist shown in the pictures backed the action figures 3x and Tucci's recycling of Shi 3x also.

Neither are rational expenditures. You are extraordinarily skillful at extracting maximum dollars from a relatively small fan group. The cyber simps are almost exactly like the devotees who would send their rent money to the Televangilists back in the 1980s.

Adding the comic book seems like a bare minimum nod to the super backers and the premium being charged for the figures. I admittedly know very little about action figures - so I compared your offerings to similar products on Kickstarter - you are charging more and offering less.

Are these action figures being fabricated in the US or assembled at one of the Chinese concentration camps?

 

[Absurdity]

1. They might eventually come with one. We're trying to raise the bare minimum amount of money to make 4 very sophisticated action figures on bubble cards. If we raise more money, there's every chance that we will include a black and white reprint of BLOODHONEY, like Todd did with SPAWN. It's crowdfunding. It takes time. Let's just get the toys paid for first, Methwin.

Eventually!

I remember thinking - Ethan's ego will not allow him to bear any critical questions - and he will likely mention politics or Mike.

You are extraordinarily skillful at extracting maximum dollars from a relatively small fan group. The cyber simps are almost exactly like the devotees who would send their rent money to the Televangilists back in the 1980s.

Exactly!