Coming Out to Friends as a Transphobe

[DrNow]

The average person who is sympathetic to the trans cause doesn’t really know anything about it beyond the flags and sentimentality. They’ll likely just be annoyed and confused as to why you don’t want people to be happy. They don’t really have any frame of reference for the middle aged man who abandons his family in favour of dressing up like a 4 year old girl. Or the transbian AGP and their ever escalating paraphila.

My few closest friends are very much on the same wave length as me. I wouldn’t argue with friends outside that small immediate circle, because even if you ‘win’, there will be another cause or battle around the corner for them to believe in all over again. Transgenderism will fall out of fashion as a subject at some point, just as gay marriage did. Nobody really cared before they were told to, and when they’re told to care about something else they will.

 

[Sho'nuff]

Sneak little hints in until they come out to you as trans "phobic" instead.

This is the real end game, its always possible to manipulate people to let out Freudian slips.
Shit isn't normal and even the staunchest supporter is going to find some part of it to just not make any sense. The key is pushing buttons until you get what you need without showing your true hand.

 

[Uncle Warren]

Do you have a woke social group

No you cringe faggot, kill yourself.

 

[TitchBitties]

Just show them a bunch of neo-vaginas

 

[trickyzerg23]

Here is a suggested script for how to talk to your friends. Remember, silence is violence:

These depraved sodomites are running amok, having lost all control. Jesus will return to destroy them soon!

 

[WebLurker]

One thing I really hate about modern-day is that the clear distinction between transsexuals and transvestites has been eroded away so now it's just "trans" for both. Which is absolute bullshit! They're completely different mental-illnesses - which is why there was an original distinction between the two because they needed to be treated with therapy in totally different ways.

Transsexuals are worthy of sympathy in much the same way anorexics, and other sufferers of the various different forms of body-dysphoria, deserve sympathy. Transsexuals are just like those poor fuckers who want to cut their leg off because they feel that the limb "shouldn't be there"

https://www.foxnews.com/story/determined-to-amputate-one-mans-struggle-with-body-integrity-identity-disorder

Transvestites, on the other hand, are just straight-up power-hungry, sexual perverts. They're not self-loathing, they're self-absorbed. Dressing up in women's clothing, forcing other people to refer to them as women, bullying others who challenge their dictatorship, etc. It's 100% sexual for them. They're getting off to the power-trip they're on - as well as the thrill of getting off in women's panties.

Your friends are probably ignorant to the fact that, until very very recently, the two were not considered the same thing and that the loud, demanding shitheads forcing their way into female spaces and demanding sexual services from lesbians: do not have gender-dysphoria, are dangerous to women and children; and if they threatened to kill themselves they would never go through with it because they're just making the threat as a form of emotional blackmail to get what they want. Because that's what narcissists do.

I don't hate or fear transsexuals because their body-dysphoria makes them more of a risk to themselves, because they are prone to killing themselves without proper therapy.

Transvestites, with their combination of AGP and narcissism, I utterly despise because those fuckers are psycho, sexually-deviant, control freaks who want to wear my skin Buffalo Bill style.

 

[dreamworks face]

My social group is very liberal / progressive, so the constant regurgitation of End Transphobia and anti-TERF sentiment is exhausting and I so very often want to contradict it with nuggets of terror from this site. But it seems like to even question the validity of a troon, their motivations, and so on is tantamount to calling a black person nigger to their face. It's probably worse. It's very frustrating.

Are there actual troons in your social group or is your group just a bunch of white men with hairbuns and white women with purple hair? Pro-trans sentiment usually doesn't survive knowing Actual Trannies.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Just start saying troons, tranny, or calling them those poor mentally ill faggots. They will slowly get the message and then you can act the way you want. Something is fucked up when start censoring your own speech

 

[MrTroll]

Start off subtly. Put up a framed picture of Dave Chappelle, casually mention how excited you are for the Hogwarts game, say that Lia Thomas is "packing" and if they ask what you mean just say you're referring to "her" biceps (wink wink). Don't just jump to 41% and dilation jokes right away. You have to ease them into it first.

 

[Jimmy Olsen]

Given that half my friends became thembies in our late teens, that isn't something I could've brought up. Besides, I'd have to worry about them outing me as a bisexual. Even though they probably wouldn't have, it wasn't worth the risk for me.

Don't have those friends anymore, but it was unrelated to the thembie stuff.

 

[Snuckening]

The real power-play, is where your first move is that YOU come out as beautiful, brave tranny. So now you're above question, and can say whatever you goddam want. And it's anyone who disagrees with you, who's now the evil, hateful, transphobic bigot.

Use your enemy's rules to your own advatage. Sun Tzu, probably.

 

[Chocolate Wombat]

Eh, having friends is overrated anyway.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

We don't approve of anorexic individuals hurting themselves, we don't allow medically depressed people to cut their wrists, we don't allow body integrity dysphoric people to chop off limbs, why do we allow gender dysphoric individuals to chop of their genitalia? Why does "politically correct" society enable and encourage these mentally ill individuals to hurt themselves?

This train of thought I (want to think) people can understand and rationalize with but it's like people's brains shut off at any slight towards transexuals. They absolutely refuse to believe that there is anything wrong with what they do because...why?

The reason is they will have to accept they aren't the great scientific conquerers of nature they believe themselves to be. They would have to face the sunk cost fallacy ever looming as they buy more clothing, makeup, wigs of the opposite sex and medications to permanently damage their bodies. It's a pretty hard cope. Gurl, you're totes valid for ruining your previous marriage, abandoning your children, and spending your days in an emotional state jacking off to Victorias Secret catalogs.

Really, just don't associate with people who enable self-mutilation. Transexuals are offensive to everyone and should return to being the laughingstock of civilized society as soon as possible.

 

[CharcoalChkn]

I had quite a big issue with a friend group I was close with somewhat relating to this, it started off with small things, like someone having a meltdown over the use of the word "twink" and eventually I just became so worn down I never had any fun talking to these people, I was always scared of what I'm going to say next that is going to make me problematic or misogynistic (only real woman in the group btw )

Eventually I cut contact with them and things improved drastically. Got closer with some other friends who weren't as terminally online, they don't mind crossing the bounds of what is considered PC, and gender politics is genuinely something we have never discussed because we really don't feel the need to know or care what each other think about it.

I would advise you at least distance yourself from these friends and start connecting with others who are closer in line with your beliefs before shit hits the fan.

 

[Android raptor]

My social circle includes trans people who are chill and realistic. Horrorshow troons and fakebois are loud af and nasty but are a relatively small percentage of trans people in the big scheme of things. Most are relatively normal people without a notable internet presence who tend not to be fond of the creeps and fakers (though a lot have been chased out of trans support groups for that reason).

Get off the internet and go outside and interact with real people.

 

[Steely Dan]

If your friends give that much of a shit about trannies that you're afraid of them no longer being your friend, either 1). you're a gigantic fag 2). they're gigantic fags, or 3). both. (probably 3)

 

[Space Cooter]

Would you be friends with a group of people who made excuses and advocated for aggressive, narcissistic men who weren’t pretending to be women?

 

[Safir]

Transsexuals are worthy of sympathy in much the same way anorexics, and other sufferers of the various different forms of body-dysphoria, deserve sympathy.

Anorexics don't perv on women. Troons do.

I don't hate or fear transsexuals ... because they are prone to killing themselves without proper therapy.

Hot take: both anorexia and troondom are psychosomatic culture-bound illnesses spread through "therapy" and the cultural ubiquity of it (even the word "therapy" without contextual qualifiers means the quackery).

 

[Ona Quest]

I dunno. Maybe have a couple of example at the ready in case the conversation takes a turn and you feel like you can refute it? Or just slowly start questioning their beliefs. Like, ask them why they think that? Where did they learn about it? Did they themselves look into it? Start making them doubt their own knowledge by making them pay attention to how they acquired their information and then see if you can interject with a competing narrative. I dunno.

 

[Android raptor]

Anorexics don't perv on women. Troons do.


Hot take: both anorexia and troondom are psychosomatic culture-bound illnesses spread through "therapy" and the cultural ubiquity of it (even the word "therapy" without contextual qualifiers means the quackery).

Victorian girls and nuns were starving themselves centuries before therapy was even a concept. Has come up quite a bit in the Anna Johnson thread especially.