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Our Clem is downright squirrely about his age, isn't he? On one hand, this makes sense - commenters who mistake him for a bright kid going through a weird phase seem, on the balance, to be fairly sympathetic, whereas those who know he's a 34-year-old grown man tend to be pitying, critical or overtly aggressive.


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Is Clem shaving some or all of his body hair in order to present a more childlike appearance? The mental image is really quite offputting.

Wow. If he does have something wrong upstairs then I feel a bit sorry for him.

Could this be down to his autism or maybe something else? Sure not wanting to let go of his lifestyle of a lifetime is one thing, but shaving his body hair to appear childlike is something else. We know that he is an only child although he has half siblings on his fathers side so possibly like Barb his mom may have coddled him too much.

His drawings could indicate how he mentally views himself.
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would it be ridiculous to think he has something funky going on with his hormone balance?

Possibly but would that explain the mindset he has of living like a child. I assume that for most people with hormone imbalances it doesn't stop them from growing up mentally, but that is not to say its a mixture of both hormone and mental health.

wow he's 34?

Its been established that he is at least 30 but 34 would put him deeper into the rabbit hole than Chris. Even Chris has attempted some sort of adult life such as a job and dating, even if he does fail at it.

The only thing that would help Clem now is an intervention or for a wakeup call like what Chris experienced.
 
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When I first saw Clem I thought he was just a run of the mill shut in. After learning more about him, ie Creationism, the Peter Pan syndrome, I'm wondering just how deep the rabbit hole goes. The whole "child forever" thing is fucking deliciously creepy lol.
Also Mylar, you've got like two fucking threads dedicated to you, do us a kindness and don't shit up Clem's thread.
 
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Aw, Clem's cartoons really bum me out. He's invested so much effort and time into creating an alternate universe where no one thinks he's odd and he almost always gets the last word. Moreover, his father isn't dead, and his mates from school haven't all moved away and left him behind.

It does seem like he's trying to re-create a better childhood than the one he actually had.
 
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He doesn't seem to say when his dad died or what the cause was, but if Clem really is in his mid 30's I can't imagine the fact that he's either as old as his old man was (or older) has escaped him and I'm sure that contributes to his "child forever" fantasy. If Clem really is shaving all visible body hair for his videos (and the bearded cartoon dad is roughly what the actual man looked like) that's a whole new world of depressing.

So where's his mom in all this? Did she completely check out when dad died? He complains that she watches tv too close to his room but I don't know if he's talked about her any further. You can't be so oblivious as to watch your only son turn into a middle-aged shut-in who intentionally tries to keep a little kid voice without it being full-blown negligence.
 
He doesn't seem to say when his dad died or what the cause was, but if Clem really is in his mid 30's I can't imagine the fact that he's either as old as his old man was (or older) has escaped him and I'm sure that contributes to his "child forever" fantasy. If Clem really is shaving all visible body hair for his videos (and the bearded cartoon dad is roughly what the actual man looked like) that's a whole new world of depressing.

So where's his mom in all this? Did she completely check out when dad died? He complains that she watches tv too close to his room but I don't know if he's talked about her any further. You can't be so oblivious as to watch your only son turn into a middle-aged shut-in who intentionally tries to keep a little kid voice without it being full-blown negligence.
Clem's mother is a bit of a mystery, isn't she? According to him, she's asked that he keep her personal business off-camera and off the internet, and he's been quite respectful of her wishes. When his viewers ask him to share information about his mom, he won't budge. Good on him for that, seriously.

One thing she has on Barb - she's a meticulous housekeeper. In the occasional footage Clem shoots outside his bedroom, the home is impeccable and beautifully kept, and we know that's not his doing! She also has a job or some other commitment that takes her out of the house on weekdays. Clem has said he likes this because he has the home to himself and can do whatever he wants. From this, we can infer that his mom pressures him to do things he doesn't want to do - she's not just letting him run roughshod.

He's said that his benefits money goes to housekeeping expenses - depending on the day, he's either proud of contributing to the household or annoyed that he can't buy as much junk as he'd like. This could either mean his mother is sponging off him, or that she's forcing him to act in a financially responsible way to the extent that she can. It's conceivable that she hopes a desire for pocket money will motivate him to pursue employment.

It's easy to find out loads about Clem's father, though. Old Greg linked a family history upthread that is really quite informative. Moreover, his hobbies in retirement earned him an ongoing international reputation. I do the books for a relative's machine shop in NJ, and the other week, I overheard a customer inquiring into the Saggers modification on a vintage Norton-AMS scrambler. A moment's work on Google confirmed that the Saggers in question was Clem's dad. It's eerie, sometimes, how small the world is.

I'm going easy on the links, because it's all straightforward to find and doxxy on people unconnected to Clem. But here are presskit photos of Clem's dad and a carboy of biodiesel. He is indeed a rather fuzzy fellow - also note that he seems to be wearing the same checked shirt that Clem draws him in!
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Anyway, much of the information on Clem's father seems hagiographically tinged, as people are disinclined to speak ill of the dead. But one gathers that he was probably much like Clem himself - entirely pleasant and even downright charming when engaged in activities he liked, and otherwise easily frustrated, self-centered and prone to ranting. I don't think it's much of a stretch to conclude that he was likely on the autism spectrum, too.

Moreover, I think it's an open question whether Clem was a wanted child. As noted, he's the product of a second marriage, with his mother possibly quite a bit younger than his dad. His father seems to have disliked children, and the above-mentioned family history notes that his mom had "an operation" to preclude additional kids. His parents traveled together extensively (without Clem), and it's hard to tell what their relationship might've been like day-to-day. In any case, it doesn't sound like Clem's dad was an easy parent.

So, Clem's father died unexpectedly at the age of 60, when Clem would've been in his early-to-mid twenties. It's hard to pin down an exact timeline, but this seems to have been around the same time Clem was taking that beginner's electronics course where he already knew all the material, possibly with an eye toward an electrician's certificate from City & Guilds. Quite a lot of bright people on the spectrum muddle through their late teens and early 20s, and then make great strides around 24-26. It seems like Clem's trajectory was derailed, and for whatever reasons - depression, autism, inadequate support, social anxiety, or a simple habit of stubbornness and poor character - he hasn't been able to bring it back on track.

Wow. If he does have something wrong upstairs then I feel a bit sorry for him.
The only thing that would help Clem now is an intervention or for a wakeup call like what Chris experienced.

Being sedentary, isolated and on a poor diet will do a number on anyone's physical and mental state, regardless of other problems. At this point, Clem probably does need a bigger wake-up than his mom can provide, even if we assume the best of her.
 
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^ Oh wow. Thanks for all that. I assumed his dad had to be a little like him given how extensive and customized Clem said all that model train stuff was.

I also assumed that his dad died when he was a lot younger, but yeah Clem being in his early 20s still tracks with the sense that at some point Clem getting derailed. Clem's life in general just gets more depressing the more I hear about it.
 
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^ Oh wow. Thanks for all that. I assumed his dad had to be a little like him given how extensive and customized Clem said all that model train stuff was.

I also assumed that his dad died when he was a lot younger, but yeah Clem being in his early 20s still tracks with the sense that at some point Clem getting derailed. Clem's life in general just gets more depressing the more I hear about it.
Those trains tho. Always with the autism and the trains.
 
Oh hey look, it's an unboxing video. Over the course of twenty minutes, Clem complains that
  • his laptop's virus scan often kicks in at inconvenient times
  • easy-open tearaways on prepackaged food fail to work as advertised
  • his new neighbors are off to a bad start by making noises in the afternoon when he is trying to sleep and parking their moving van in an inconsiderate manner
and finally,
  • Russian packaging is written in a language he can't read.

I'm actually quite charmed by this - it's like he's channeling Andy Rooney. For decades, America's crotchety grandpa complained about things like today's music and buying fruit. ("What in the world is a pluot?") Our Clem manages to be as grouchy and out-of-touch as a man nearly three times his age - it's rather an accomplishment if you think about it.

Despite having re-uploaded - or re-uplaoaded - the video to elide the sender's address, Clem repeatedly shows the poor guy's entire name, phone number and email. Yikes.

And...did anyone else cast a wary eye at a certain item on Clem's bed around the 21-minute mark? Objects of that appearance make me a little jumpy, ever since I accidentally stumbled on a penis pump at a charity rummage sale. Thankfully, the device here in question seems to be nothing more than the spacer for an MDI inhaler.
 

Its almost like I'm watching someone unboxing buttplugs.

his new neighbors are off to a bad start by making noises in the afternoon when he is trying to sleep and parking their moving van in an inconsiderate manner

Hopefully they are well adjusted socially proactive people that like to have a few beers over the weekend when Clem is sleeping off a night of playing video games and browsing youtube.

I'm actually quite charmed by this - it's like he's channeling Andy Rooney. For decades, America's crotchety grandpa complained about things like today's music and buying fruit. ("What in the world is a pluot?") Our Clem manages to be as grouchy and out-of-touch as a man nearly three times his age - it's rather an accomplishment if you think about it.
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Nice find, the resemblance between Clem and that old guy is uncanny. Especially when it comes to complaining about such trivial and menial things.

Despite having re-uploaded - or re-uplaoaded - the video to elide the sender's address, Clem repeatedly shows the poor guy's entire name, phone number and email. Yikes.

He has done this so many times its like he is doing it on purpose. IIRC his address was originally obtained from an unboxing video which was re-uploaded a few times before he finally made a cut with all traces of it removed.
 
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You'd think that he of all people would have bought a stand for his iron, unless its just his latest attempt at subtle attention seeking by putting the footage in the video.
 
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Interesting business unfolding in the comments for the above video. It would probably be easier if Clem would stop by and address these misconceptions directly - registration here isn't as difficult as all that. Heaven knows I'd be amenable to correcting any bad information in my upthread posts.
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He vehemently wants to take down the Cwiki forums, and yet he doesn't even know what site that commenter is referring to.
Maybe he's just pretending to not know of us...interesting...
Then again, he couldn't get through the ridiculously easily security question..

I still want to know how he trained his voice. It's not an obvious falsetto or anything, so I'm curious.
 
He vehemently wants to take down the Cwiki forums, and yet he doesn't even know what site that commenter is referring to.
Maybe he's just pretending to not know of us...interesting...
Then again, he couldn't get through the ridiculously easily security question..

I still want to know how he trained his voice. It's not an obvious falsetto or anything, so I'm curious.

Clothes pegs is my guess...
 

That is just fucking creepy. And that robot797 guy seems to be Clems biggest fan, he is everywhere like shit in a field.

He vehemently wants to take down the Cwiki forums, and yet he doesn't even know what site that commenter is referring to.

Clem is being extra careful now that his address is public in case we come and throw trash at him in the street.
 
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