Creepy Unsolved Mysteries - From unsolved murders to unidentified people to unexplained supernatural events, what are some of the creepiest unsolved mysteries you've ever heard of?

[Sean_Igger]

In the past month alone I have heard one uni lecturer tell me that she leaves her two young boys alone (2 and 4!) with an iPad and goes out for ‘a break.’ Apparently it’s fine as she is only five minutes away. A two year old. Beggars belief. Everyone just nodded along and told her she needs her me time.

I am not at all surprised someone embedded in the university system has iPad kids.

 

[FedPostalService]

I am not at all surprised someone embedded in the university system has iPad kids.

Lecturers often have retarded kids because they’re too busy with their autism to raise their kids.

I worked with a girl whose parent were both senior academics and she was thick as fuck and the local town bike.

How can you be expected to raise your own children properly when there’s a genocide in Gaza?

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Darlie Routier....she claimed she woke up after she and her kids got stabbed but honestly there is literally no way that she could have. You'd be in so much pain that no sedative or sleeping pill could numb penetrative wounds.

And I totally understand that people grieve in different ways no matter what culture or what have you but unless you were mentally challenged....or something....I highly doubt you'd have a birthday party at your sons graves complete with streamers and stuff. Now yes, that's something that some people might in fact do. I do not think a person who's children were murdered would do that. Releasing 1000 balloons at once? Yes. Establishing a memorial or garden or something? Yes. But not this and especially not when people are already suspicious of you.

 

[Twix Eatr]

I'm not a Ramsey defender, so if you can point me towards anything that would dispute this I would be interested in reading it.

Their pediatrician was a family friend and isn't reliable. Her autopsy made it clear that she was being sexually abused. She had plenty of UTIs, more than a girl her age should have. Potty training issues is also another sign. But more importantly, she had specific injuries revealed in her autopsy that established medical consensus among experts that she was being sexually assaulted; every child sexual abuse expert who examined the autopsy report agreed. [1]

If the parents killed her how could they have the foreknowledge to know that the crime scene would be as botched as it was?

They were the ones who invited everyone over to trample the scene, but I don't believe that part was planned.

If they killed JB and put her in the basement, why would they then call the Whites and the Ferneys and allow multiple searches of the home that included the basement area JB was found in? I don't see how that would be beneficial to them in any way.

He didn't want them searching. Remember, it was a "ransom" case. No JBR was supposed to be there. But once they showed up and everybody came over and didn't leave, John "found" JBR. She was tucked away in the wine cellar, which had no light source, in a spot that John couldn't have seen from his vantage point. He yelled out instantly, as if performative:

An expert was used to help construct the lighting conditions that would have been present when Fleet White and John Ramsey reported opening the door of the Wine Cellar. A white blanket was placed on the floor where JonBenét’s body had been found and sensitive photographic light meters were used in an attempt to duplicate the conditions of December 26th. John Ramsey had stated that he observed the white blanket immediately upon opening the door. Investigators noted that the room was pitch-black when they re-created the same drill, and the blanket was unobservable to them. Gosage noted in his reports that even with the interior lights on, he couldn’t see the blanket until he stepped into the room and had sufficiently cleared the short wall located to the left of the door."

He then carried her stiff body up the stairs, holding her out in front of him. His incentive to find JBR himself is to contaminate the body and disturb the scene. It'd be easier to explain why your fibers are on the tape or something. But his were near her crotch.

Moreover, parental involvement doesn't explain the unknown male DNA in her underwear. Ramsey theorists like to dismiss this evidence, and I would be inclined to do so as well if the DNA was found on JB's shirt, but given that it was on her underwear and longjohns that makes it much harder to handwave away.

There is no unknown male DNA in her underwear. The "DNA evidence" is a huge red herring and there is no scientific evidence validating it. There's touch DNA that is likely from multiple people handling it. It could be the factory worker bagging it up. It's literally worthless.

IIRC no DNA or fibres belonging to John were found in the garrote that killed JB either.

Fibers from John's shirt were found near her crotch area. Fibers from Patsy's shirt were found on the fibers of the rope of the garotte and the sticky side of the tape used on JBR.

From Patsy Ramsey's 2000 Atlanta Interview
8 MR. LEVIN: I understand your

9 position.

10 In addition to those questions,

11 there are some others that I would like you

12 to think about whether or not we can have

13 Mrs. Ramsey perhaps in the future answer. I

14 understand you are advising her not to today,

15 and those are there are black fibers that,

16 according to our testing that was conducted,

17 that match one of the two shirts that was

18 provided to us by the Ramseys, black shirt.

19 Those are located in the

20 underpants of JonBenet Ramsey, were found in

21 her crotch area, and I believe those are two

22 other areas that we have intended to ask

23 Mrs. Ramsey about if she could help us in

24 explaining their presence in those locations

As for the ransom note, I don't see what's it in that implicates John in particular as we know he didn't write the note and the tone of the note seems to contain animus towards him.

Do you think they'd write the note praising him? "John, you're a handsome devil and a successful businessman. We will behead your daughter, btw!" The phrasing used screams Patsy, they knew how much John's bonus amount was, it referenced plays Patsy was very familiar with, etc. It can be read many ways, I guess, but it sounds like she's communicating to him that it's on him to fix this. "Use some of that good sense of yours, John" or whatever. Man, this case is so nutty.

Also, what terrorist group that just murdered some little girl would call themselves a "small foreign faction?" "Listen, you American businessman scum. We may not be al-Qaeda YET, but just you wait and see! Once we stop hanging in homes with an entire family upstairs, all to write a 20-page ransom note for a little girl we've already murdered, we'll be unstoppable!"

Also, that "Victory! SBTC!" shit, I never hear anybody reference this tidbit:

I don't remember if I told them about the large photograph John had of an aircraft carrier. On the bottom of the picture in fancy writing were the words Subic Bay Training Center. The script was faint because it blended in with the Water, so the words were hard to read. It used to hang behind his desk in the bedroom.

If you think John killed her, what incentive would Patsy have to cover it up and write the ransom note? Patsy was an emotional wreck the day of the "kidnapping" and had to be sedated in the days following, so where's the evidence that she could write a note that gets stronger as it goes on and stage the scene by putting duct tape on JonBenét? It takes a stone cold sociopath to do that and I don't think Patsy fits that profile.

The FBI took a single look at the ransom note and immediately knew it was horseshit. IIRC, it was the single longest ransom note they'd ever seen. The odds it wasn't written by one of them is next to 0%. My guess is John was planning on removing JBR's body with his "large attaché'" when he went to go find the ransom money. Patsy might've fucked up and called the cops too early.

Nothing about this case makes sense, but the Ramsey's absolutely did it.

 

[Spergerella Junior]

Something that following true crime has taught me is that everyone lies. They lie because they are guilty, they lie to themselves, they lie because they want attention, they lie because they have something unrelated to hide, they lie because they’re fucking stupid. This goes for suspects, victims, family, witnesses and police.

 

[The Crescent King]

@Twix Eatr

Nowhere in my post did I say that JonBenet was not being sexually abused. I specifically asked the person I was quoting to provide proof that John was her abuser, and nothing in the Reddit link confirms that John sexually abused his daughter. Reddit compilations are not reliable resources, especially as r/JonBenetRamsey is strictly a RDI subreddit, and the compilation doesn't link to archived primary sources but instead cites Reddit comments as evidence. Again, nothing you've written even answers the question of why John, if he was molesting JonBenet, would take her to a doctor over thirty times in two years? JonBenet's bedwetting and UTIs can be signs of sexual abuse but are not as definitive as you're presenting. Bedwetting not unusual in 6 year old girls nor are UTIs; generally bedwetting is only considered to be a disordered behaviour past the age of seven or eight. According to Lawrence Schiller it's also not true that "every expert" who examined this case unanimously agrees that JB was sexually abused, and I've never read anything to suggest that JB's abuse was perpetrated by an adult male. I can accept that JB was abused without fingering John for no reason; it is more than possible that JB's chronic inflammation derived from sex play with her brother, for example. Again, John had two older daughters prior to JB and neither ever alleged abuse from John and were actually quite close with him. In order to believe that John was abusing JB we'd have to accept that he decided to become a pedophile as a middle-aged man, which isn't how sexual abuse works. Moreover, as I stated above it was Patsy and her family that pushed for JB's sexualised pageantry, not John.

As for your second point, you're being disingenuous. Yes the Ramseys called the Fernies and the Whites over, but it was the police who not only allowed them to enter the home but even asked them to search the house. Linda Arndt doesn't deny asking both Fleet White and John Ramsey to search the home, a complete violation of protocol. The victim advocates also contaminated the kitchen by preparing food and cleaning the top surfaces - how could John and Patsy know that the police would violate protocol and even encourage it? If they were involved that's one hell of a gamble to make. You're also just straight up lying when you say John "didn't want them searching", as John did nothing to stop Fleet White or anyone else from searching the house or the basement. Again, what benefit would that be to John? If he wanted to clean up the scene he didn't need to call Fleet White or the Fernie family over to make that happen. In order to accept your logic the Ramseys would have had to viciously kill their daughter and then rely on massive levels of unpredictable luck to contaminate the scene after calling the police instead of before. You'd think that if the Ramseys did it and were dedicated enough to the staging by writing the ransom note they would also clean up the scene before police were called. Moreover, why would John want to contaminate the scene by adding his own DNA to JB? You'd think he'd want to distance himself from the scene as much as possible after the clean up which didn't even occur, nor would his DNA being found in his own home be considered suspicious.

I also don't understand why you're denying the unknown male DNA, when even the very subreddit you cite has an entire post dedicated to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRa..._evidence_in_the_ramsey_case_faqs_and_common/

The "factory worker" theory makes no sense, as the DNA is not touch DNA and is possibly saliva. How would a factory worker's saliva end up in JB's underwear?



As for John's fibres in JB's underwear, that's not unusual at all if he was involved in folding her underwear or dressing her, which I imagine he was given her bedwetting problem. I am aware of Patsy's fibres from the garrotte and tape, but that fact is nowhere near as damning as you're presenting it - the materials the garrotte was comprised of were from the Ramsey home, including one of Patsy's paintbrushes. This also begs the question that if the Ramseys did it why not dispose of the garrotte before calling the police?

You also misunderstood my point about the note. I was responding to a JDI theorist and pointed out that we know John did not write the note - I wasn't expecting a love letter, but I think the tone of ransom note is very important to highlight. If Patsy wrote the note, does she strike you as a person who could quote lines from Dirty Harry and Speed off the top of her head and put them in a ransom note after killing her daughter? Furthermore, John readily handed over the notepad the ransom note was written on to police that day - why not dispose of it? I don't deny the oddities of the note, but the note itself does not fit neatly into a RDI or IDI did it theories. If John killed his daughter why would he order Patsy to place an obscure reference to Subic Bay Training Center? How do you know that the note's SBTC somehow must be referencing Subic Bay Training Center, and that in the heat of the moment John is so fixated on it to ask Patsy to put it in the ransom note? There is no logical connection between these two things.

With all respect, nothing in your post is convincing and demonstrates some of the intellectual sloppiness that is common with pro-Ramsey Did It arguments. Anyone else interested in reading primary documentation in JB's case should check out these websites: http://www.acandyrose.com/

http://jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/11682477/JonBenet%20Ramsey%20Case%20Encyclopedia

 

[Spergerella Junior]

Have any other farmer’s spent much time on Websleuths.com? That place has its own cows for sure (the current owner Tricia Griffith definitely), but I’m looking for good thread/subforum recommendations. That site has been around so long, I hope it never disappears. I find it difficult to read though nowadays. I miss the old structure and the mods can be a lot.

 

[Maricón de Mierda]

That place has its own cows for sure (the current owner Tricia Griffith definitely

No, but please tell us more.

 

[Spergerella Junior]

No, but please tell us more.

I am not organized enough to do a good write up, but she grifted a lot, having money emergencies, that site users sent her funds for, later got into a biz relationship/sold part ownership of the forum to a user who then sued her for whole ownership while alleging she was mismanaging funds (user who sued her lost btw) leading to an amusing forum war. She had/has a true crime podcast that was one of the originals (maybe 2nd to OG Dan Zupansky’s True Murder), that used to be decent but she wallowed in the mud with True Crime retards like Levi Paige. On her podcast she had notable interviews with people like Mark Redwine (who murdered his son Dylan), was a guest host for Sword and Scale briefly/friendly with Mike Boudet (who I’m fairly sure reads here), had Morgan Ingram’s mom on as well… there is a lot, but I don’t think she’s too cowish now. She’s older so probably just doesn’t have the energy for it.

Her podcast excelled before the TC explosion. She also sucks at scripted shows. Her style was more talk radio.

Editing to add that just like all forums, it has lotsa spergs, but also plenty of folks who will do a lot of tedious digging to assist in identifying dead bodies. Many authors have interacted in threads. A notable sub forum for me was the Sharon Marshall one.

It’s also pre-Reddit. It would be worth archiving.

 

[Twix Eatr]

Nowhere in my post did I say that JonBenet was not being sexually abused. I specifically asked the person I was quoting to provide proof that John was her abuser, and nothing in the Reddit link confirms that John sexually abused his daughter.

There is obviously not proof that one specific person was sexually abusing JBR and that the other covered it up. If that's your burden of proof, requiring confirmation of who did what in order to understand that the Ramsey's did it, we're at an impasse.

Regardless, you're goalpost shifting.. You specifically said, "and her pediatrician has said he noticed no signs of sexual abuse" in defense of the Ramsey's. I provided evidence that she was being sexually abused.

Sure, the coroner didn't find John's car keys lodged in her ass or something, dude, but the fact she was being SA'd prior to her murder is significant.

Again, nothing you've written even answers the question of why John, if he was molesting JonBenet, would take her to a doctor over thirty times in two years?

Because I don't need to answer that? It'd be on you to provide evidence that a child molester wouldn't do that. You're also simultaneously arguing that there wasn't evidence of her being molested, but also saying, "But if there was, which I'm not saying there isn't, that doesn't prove John did it!" I don't believe it was John taking her to the doctor, either. He was away on business and Patsy was always doing so.

A pediatrician who isn't examining his friend's daughter for SA isn't going to notice the sexual trauma found in the autopsy. They are rich people with a personal family friend/doctor doing little check-ups. The evidence of her SA (that you are clearly oblivious to) would've required anesthesia from a gynecologist.

but are not as definitive as you're presenting

I did not say those things were definitive; experts in the field who viewed the autopsy report are definitive, which you did not refute. "Some other guy said 'nuh-uh' to actual experts!" while inventing alternative theories without evidence.

"it is more than possible that JB's chronic inflammation derived from sex play with her brother, for example."

Like, come the fuck on. Nobody is talking about "chronic inflammation" or little kids performing "sex play", either, weirdo, but specific injuries that can only come from sexual trauma. It's not UTIs or rashes. It is specific to what was uncovered during the autopsy.

Honestly, your replies are too stupid for me to justify a back-and-forth. People like you are a chore. "SURE, SHE MIGHT'VE BEEN RAPED BEFORE BY SOMEONE, MURDERED IN HER HOME, AND A 200 PAGE RANSOM NOTE WAS FOUND, AND JOHN'S BALL HAIRS WERE IN HER MOUTH, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE COULDN'T HAVE TRIMMED HIS PUBES EARLIER NEAR THE AC UNIT AND A GUST OF WIND PLACED THEM THERE! YOU'VE YET TO SOLVE THE RAMSEY CASE IN THIS THREAD, DURRR!"

With all respect, nothing in your post is convincing and demonstrates some of the intellectual sloppiness that is common with pro-Ramsey Did It arguments. Anyone else interested in reading primary documentation in JB's case should check out this website: http://www.acandyrose.com/

My dude, people that argue against RDI are legitimately laughing stocks among those who study this case. I'm not one of those people, just someone whose read a bit about it, but it's legitimately a telltale sign to exit the discussion ASAP.

I also don't understand why you're denying the unknown amount of DNA, when even the very subreddit you cite has an entire post dedicated to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRa..._evidence_in_the_ramsey_case_faqs_and_common/

Maybe try reading it? It's an entire post dedicated to refuting your claim, bonehead. It validates what I said that it's a total red herring. Seriously, read the FAQ you linked and you don't have to take screenshots of irrelevant shit. It covers everything I told you that you're wrong about, mixed samples, amalyse (saliva) vs. skin cells (touch), etc.

It's a nothing-burger, unlike John's shirt fibers from the night JBR died being on her crotch and Patsy's shirt fibers under the tape that restrained her. "BUT THAT'S NOT VERY DAMNING IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THE UNLIKELY, YET PERFECT SCENARIO THAT'D EXPLAIN IT!"

You being on a jury is terrifying, tbh.

 

[Dr. Butt]

Knox

Wait what

 

[Spergerella Junior]

Wait what

I assume they mean Amanda Knox. Many are still convinced she’s guilty.

 

[The Crescent King]

@Twix Eater

Given that you addressed none of my questions or points and instead moved straight onto insults, plus citing Reddit as a legit source (when what you cited doesn't even back up your claims, as both posts referenced are unsourced and mainly involve Redditors quoting each other) I concur with you that a back and forth is not justified, though that certainly doesn't come from my end. You are the one asserting the Ramseys were involved; it is not me that has to reach any burden of proof as I'm not making any claims, but am instead questioning in good faith those who are. It's clear that you can't answer any of these reasonable questions and given that you've provided no primary sources your position is on far shakier ground that what you'd like to admit. If the fibre evidence against John Ramsey is so strong then why wasn't he ever arrested and charged? Not even the lead investigator on the case (Steve Thomas) thinks John was involved to the extent you're claiming, even though he believes RDI.

 

[Twix Eatr]

It’s also pre-Reddit. It would be worth archiving.

They have some good stuff on a lot of older cases. I think forums like these will have to make a comeback with places like reddit overrun w/ bots on purpose. The old EARONS proboards should probably be backed up, too. It's a shame we'll never get more info about that case, but at least he's rotting behind bars. EARONS is truly a total sonofabitch.

While I don't think it's a particularly tough solve, I really hope Leah Roberts is found before I die. I always wanted to take a trip out to find her crash site since it's such a beautiful area. I'm sure she's somewhere out there in the woods. Brandon Swanson is another where I don't suspect any mystery foul play like the net tards, but I'd like to see him found, too.

@Twix Eater

Given that you addressed none of my questions or points and instead moved straight onto insults, plus citing Reddit as a legit source (when what you cited doesn't even back up your claims) I concur with you that a back and forth is not justified, though that certainly doesn't come from my end. You are the one asserting the Ramseys were involved; it is not me that has to reach any burden of proof as I'm not making any claims, but am instead questioning in good faith those who are. It's clear that you can't answer any of these reasonable questions and given that you've provided no primary sources your position is on far shakier ground that what you'd like to admit.

"The burden of proof is on you to solve the most puzzling case in American history!"

It's not "good faith" when you dismiss facts you don't like without reason. It's just retarded since I obviously can't prove John Ramsey was the person molesting JBR. I also wasn't trying to, either. You defended the Ramseys, citing their personal doctor not reporting SA. I provided a written compilation showing the strong medical consensus by actual experts on CSA. But since it's linked in a reddit thread, it's no good? That link had the relevant experts names, backgrounds, biographies, passages from books, rebuttals to common misconceptions (like yours), and a timeline when experts agreed on prior sexual trauma. Your response was, "besides, some journalist who wrote a book on the case doesn't think so." Ok.

Bro, this is a thread for nerds to casually discuss true crime and unsolved mysteries. You're taking this too seriously, especially to deny the overwhelming evidence of SA on the little girl who was SA'd and brutally murdered. It should go without saying that nobody who isn't retarded ITT expects proof of key involvement of suspects in unsolved murder cases just to casually discuss facts of a case.

Another one of my hot takes: The West Memphis Three totally did it.

My last deep dive had me agreeing, I think.

That broken bottle of Evan Williams that Jesse led the cops to never sat right with me.

I can't remember, but I thought there was something throwing a monkey wrench into that piece of evidence. It's been a while since I read about it so maybe I'm thinking about what I used to consider a smoking gun, one of them mentioning peeing in the kids mouth. I thought that sealed it, but think one of the detectives told one about it beforehand, so it wasn't something only the killers would know.

The multiple confessions over and over are strong, IMO.

Too many people take documentaries as absolute fact and forget that the filmmakers have their own agendas and absolutely will twist things to fit their narrative. Making A Murderer is complete bullshit and yet people were jizzing over it until the prosecutors had to come out and present all the shit the doc conveniently left out.

Yeah, like the producer of The Staircase being in a relationship with Michael while making it. That dude is guilty as sin, IMO.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Lecturers often have retarded kids because they’re too busy with their autism to raise their kids.

I worked with a girl whose parent were both senior academics and she was thick as fuck and the local town bike.

How can you be expected to raise your own children properly when there’s a genocide in Gaza?

Had a friend with clinical psychiatrists as parents who never noticed he was slipping into schizophrenia until he followed a middle schooler home with a knife and walked into the kids house challenging him and his parents to a fight.

Then his coward father couldn't handle it and shot himself while my friend was home.

The FBI took a single look at the ransom note and immediately knew it was horseshit. IIRC, it was the single longest ransom note they'd ever seen. The odds it wasn't written by one of them is next to 0%. My guess is John was planning on removing JBR's body with his "large attaché'" when he went to go find the ransom money. Patsy might've fucked up and called the cops too early.

I can't see a mother being so complicit and keeping quiet about it even into the grave. I feel like if they had done it, she would have confessed before the end. She was dying from cancer for quite a while.

 

[Grub]

I had to deal with bed bugs several years ago after buying a "new mattress" for my room from a furniture store. Those fuckers are a nightmare to deal with.

I had bedbugs once almost 20 years ago. They're so fucking disgusting. I killed them all with fire. Every day for like a month I would strip the bed and go over all the edges and cracks and any time I saw any hint of a bedbug or eggs I burned it with a lighter. Then I went around the entire bedroom doing the same thing. It took a while but eventually I got rid of them all. The bites didn't even affect me but my girlfriend was waking up with bites every morning.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

I don't deny the oddities of the note

Oddity is an understatement. That note is one of the most bizarre and baffling true crime mysteries of all time. Not a god damn thing about that note makes any sense.

While I don't think it's a particularly tough solve, I really hope Leah Roberts is found before I die. I always wanted to take a trip out to find her crash site since it's such a beautiful area. I'm sure she's somewhere out there in the woods. Brandon Swanson is another where I don't suspect any mystery foul play like the net tards, but I'd like to see him found, too.

Maura Murray and Brianna Maitland are another couple like Leah Robert's I'd like to see solved. I think Maura Murray was drunk and fled her car to avoid police and ended up dying. Mailand was probably killed by the drug dealers she was buying crack from.

 

[Mysterious Girlfriend X]

Lecturers often have retarded kids because they’re too busy with their autism to raise their kids.

I worked with a girl whose parent were both senior academics and she was thick as fuck and the local town bike.

How can you be expected to raise your own children properly when there’s a genocide in Gaza?

If you want to see a perfect example of this, look at Lena Dunham's family.

 

[Turquoise]

Wait what

There was a mountain of evidence against Knox. Copy and pasted from another thread:

It's a matter of stacking the anomalies up and asking your self "What are the chances these are just coincidences?" I'll list some of them below and, in the interest of fairness, offer the Foxy Knoxy explanation for each one.

Rafaelle called the police (after the presence of the postal police prompted him to make the call) and the told the operator "nothing has been stolen" before having knowledge of whether anything had been stolen or even if the intruder had been in the locked bedroom.
He was speaking in general terms. It looked like nothing had been stolen.

Rafaelle pre-empted what the forensic testing on his knife would reveal and said that Amanda had cut Meredith the day before in a vegetable chopping accident. (Knoxy on the handle, Meredith on the blade)
Being in custody made Raf delirious so he isn't to be believed and the DNA evidence is insufficient.

The police found it odd that an attempt had been made to scrub the passage clean.
Amanda shuffled naked on a bath mat after showering because she didn't want to get the floor wet.

Rudy's footprints go straight from the murder room, down the passage and out the door. There is no evidence that he turned to lock the door.
It is physically possible to hover on one foot and twist your body round to lock a door behind you, so that's what he must've done.

A witness saw Raf and Amanda near the cottage at the time of the murder.
He was put up to it by corrupt prosecutors.

Another witness saw them.
He was mistaken.

A shop owner reported Amanda waiting outside his shop at 7am before buying bottles of bleach.
Another girl who looked just like Amanda also urgently needed bleach that morning.

Raf and Amanda's phones were turned off just after the estimated time of the murder and came back on early in the morning, oh around the time that other girl was buying bleach.
Coincidence.

Amanda and Raf said they had slept through the night but computer forensics revealed activity on the device at that time. They lied.
They misremembered,

Shards of glass from the broken window was lying on top of the items in the room that had supposedly been ransacked.
No they weren't / corrupt police

Raf's bloody footprint found on bathmat.
Rudy had the same size feet as Raf. Oh, and he took his shoes off after he killed Meredith and then put them back on.

Amanda's lamp (her only light source) was found under Meredith's bed, which led police to think it had been used during the clean-up.
Meredith had been borrowing it.

Amanda and Meredith's mixed blood was found in the bathroom.
Contamination.

Amanda and Meredith's mixed DNA found in the break in room (Filomena's room).
Contamination.

Raf's DNA on Meredith's bra clasp.
Contamination.

Raf's classmates at college called him 'knife boy' because he was known to always carry a knife.
This proves nothing.

All three suspects changed their stories multiple times. The version that Amanda committed to paper falsely accused someone as well as placed herself at the crimescene.
She was was coerced by corrupt police.

The police and independent translator all deny that the interview lasted longer than 2 hours and that she was hit by officers. In fact, it was Amanda who requested to be there because she didn't want to part company with Raf who was being questioned first.
They're all corrupt liars.

The postal police who were on the scene originally felt Amanda and Raf were acting very strangely.
They're corrupt liars as well.

Amanda delayed the discovery of the body by telling the postal police Meredith always locked her door. The other two roommates confirmed the opposite to be true.
The police are lying again.

Amanda knew details of the crime scene which she couldn't have known.
She heard police mention them.

The postal police arrived at the cottage to find Amanda and Raf standing with a mop and cleaning equipment, which led them to think they were engaged in a clean-up job. Fancy that?
There had been a leak at Raf's apartment and they had just nipped over to the cottage to collect the cleaning equipment for the real clean-up job.

The acquitting court maintained that Meredith was killed by multiple persons despite only being able to secure a conviction for one.
It's not Amanda's job to find the other killers, is it?

Rudy Guede's final version events places Amanda and Raf at the scene.
He's lying.

Amanda had scratch marks on her neck and ear.
Hickies and an earring accident.

In the early part of the investigation Amanda and Raf couldn't remember whether or not they had left the house the night before.
"I can't even remember what I did 10 minutes ago lol"

And for what it's worth...

Amanda has giggled her way through interviews and cartwheeled through interrogation rooms. She constantly says and does inappropriate things, refuses to talk about Meredith and has been caught blatantly lying on multiple occassions. For example, telling Joe Rogan she called the police. The Behaviour Panel also had a field day with her.
She's zany. She's whacky. She's autistic. You can't use normal behaviour as a yardstick to understand Amanda Knox.

If Amanda is innocent, then the world truly conspired against her that day. Corrupt officials out to get her at every turn, multiple cases of mistaken identity, an unfortunate vegetable chopping accident, an untimely towel shuffle, a pesky plumbing problem, multiple incidences of calamitous contamination, annoying bouts of amnesia, an early morning computer sesh, an improbable home intrusion and a phone call fuck up.

 

[Turquoise]

On the Ramseys...

The best evidence against them, in my opinion, is the ransom letter. It's undeniably a good match for Patsy's writing. If an intruder had entered the house earlier in the night before waiting an hour or so for the Ramseys to come home, could he have mimicked Patsy's writing style to mess with them? It seems unlikely.

On the other hand, John was a bright enough guy. If they killed her, they would've had the whole morning to decide what to do with the body. Why would a competent businessman think asking his wife to write a three page ransom note to be the best course of action? And bear in mind they were a well-to-do family. The law would never have come down on them as hard as it would on a pleb family. "She hit her head playing" would probably have sufficed. Why would you go Agatha Christie with it?

Also, hasn't John pushed for further investigation over the years and spent a lot of money on the case? This is almost unheard of in cases where guilty people get away with it.