Creepypasta Discussion Thread

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WanderingVagabond said:
Most of you are familar with the Abandoned by Disney saga, correct? Well last year, someone made fan sequel to 'Room Zero' (the last part of the Abandoned by Disney series), called "A Tape from Treasure Island". It's really good.

http://someordinarygamers.wikia.com/wiki/A_Tape_from_Treasure_Island

If the wiki is too laggy for you, here's the video:

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I honestly that it wasn't that good. It is a little bit silly. The whole thing about the birds was just stupid.
 
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In my opinion, the bit with the birds mostly just didn't fit with Abandoned by Disney. Neat vulture trivia if true though.
 
"A tape from treasure Island" seems like one of those unnescessary sequels, that doesn't add anything interesting to the original. Adding some generic "the owner was a satanist Wiccan" explanation actually just takes away from the mystery and replaces it with some generic horror plot element. The whole diary structure does not really help to establish suspense and clashes with the pacing (that's a pretty big problem with most creepypastas trying to tell a story in diary form). The whole bird/vulture part seemed silly and the grand finale was pretty bland.

I'm not really a fan of "Abandoned by Disney" itself, but it was competently written and far better than this.
 
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Idling said:
"A tape from treasure Island" seems like one of those unnescessary sequels, that doesn't add anything interesting to the original. Adding some generic "the owner was a satanist Wiccan" explanation actually just takes away from the mystery and replaces it with some generic horror plot element. The whole diary structure does not really help to establish suspense and clashes with the pacing (that's a pretty big problem with most creepypastas trying to tell a story in diary form). The whole bird/vulture part seemed silly and the grand finale was pretty bland.

I'm not really a fan of "Abandoned by Disney" itself, but it was competently written and far better than this.
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Thank you for saying it in a way I never could.
 
Idling said:
"A tape from treasure Island" seems like one of those unnescessary sequels, that doesn't add anything interesting to the original. Adding some generic "the owner was a satanist Wiccan" explanation actually just takes away from the mystery and replaces it with some generic horror plot element. The whole diary structure does not really help to establish suspense and clashes with the pacing (that's a pretty big problem with most creepypastas trying to tell a story in diary form). The whole bird/vulture part seemed silly and the grand finale was pretty bland.

I'm not really a fan of "Abandoned by Disney" itself, but it was competently written and far better than this.
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I think what would've made the story better was to add some sort of conspiracy on why the island was closed down such as a government experiment, or wild animals gone rabid. I agree with the bird/vulture parts in the story being silly although the vulture in the beginning of the story was unique and it disappearing after instructing the protagonist where the files were at.

You have to admit the getting Wi-Fi at an abandoned area is creepy as hell. What point would there be a Wi-Fi tower/hotspot in an abdandoned resort/park or community? (unless you bring one yourself of course)
 
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WanderingVagabond said:
I think what would've made the story better was to add some sort of conspiracy on why the island was closed down such as a government experiment, or wild animals gone rabid. I agree with the bird/vulture parts in the story being silly although the vulture in the beginning of the story was unique and it disappearing after instructing the protagonist where the files were at.

You have to admit the getting Wi-Fi at an abandoned area is creepy as hell. What point would there be a Wi-Fi tower/hotspot in an abdandoned resort/park or community? (unless you bring one yourself of course)
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I think in general creepypastas are not made to have continuations like this. Creepypastas are horror short stories, and like normal short stories are using twist endings and open endings for good effect. Once you make some sort of Part 2, it destroys the ending of the original, by either taking away the mystery of the open end or trying to put another twist ending on a twist ending while reverting the original twist or both.
There's a good reason, why we don't have something like "The Lady, or the Tiger? 2: The Choice Made". For the same reason there never should have been a "Abandoned by Disney, Part Xyz" or "Candle Cove - The untold Story" or "My personal encounter with the Slenderman 8: A blossoming Romance". If you really want to make a creepypasta, make something new, doesn't even have to be an original concept. You can use all the old tropes, as long as you tell the story competently. Psychosis was just a take on the old "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" Plot and it turned out to be one of the best pastas out there. Just don't make a straight up sequel or -god-beware - a fan-sequel.

About the Wi-Fi:
I'd actually consider this to be another part that's just straight up silly and should have been left out (Didn't even notice it that much at first, but the more I think about it, the more farcical it becomes). I mean, what's the implictaion here. Are the demons using Wi-Fi? Is Zombie Mowgli browsing the web on his smartphone? Does Satanic Snow White have an Instagramm? Is Devil-Worshipper Nick on Ebay right now, searching for a new Sacrifical Dagger?
Wi-Fi is something that just doesn't add well to the kind of story this is trying to be. Wi-Fi is something that implies a non-supernatural cause, like a normal person setting it up for whatever reason, which isn't scary (When Hipsters go Camping: A real life Horror Story) - and the alternative, some supernatural entity installing a Wi-Fi hotspot in its home, is just comical (Vodafone Contract 666: Flatrate to Hell).
It could work fine if the plot was about cyberdemons from the internet. It doesn't work for Undead Mickey and Friends.
 
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If you wanna make a sequel, it should probably be a loose one, kinda like how Room Zero had more of a "discovery aftermath" deal rather than "return of undead Mickey" well, he might be involved but still. Keep the connection vague, it's the element of mystery that makes many of these things so monstrous. After all, you get enough backstory to a monster and suddenly you know them, they don't have any real unknowns and it takes away from the creepiness quite a bit when you know Slendy's life story or whatever.
 
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I can see the author tried, but it feels like eventually he didn't know what to do with the clues he had laid out and let the story devolve into the standard "Boo! Satan! Bloody eyes!"-thing. Satanism by itself isn't scary anymore, or even mysterious.
Idling said:
Vodafone Contract 666: Flatrate to Hell
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Abandoned by Samsung, Or: How I Sold my Soul for Cheap Mobile Internet
 
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Idling said:
I think in general creepypastas are not made to have continuations like this. Creepypastas are horror short stories, and like normal short stories are using twist endings and open endings for good effect. Once you make some sort of Part 2, it destroys the ending of the original, by either taking away the mystery of the open end or trying to put another twist ending on a twist ending while reverting the original twist or both.
There's a good reason, why we don't have something like "The Lady, or the Tiger? 2: The Choice Made". For the same reason there never should have been a "Abandoned by Disney, Part Xyz" or "Candle Cove - The untold Story" or "My personal encounter with the Slenderman 8: A blossoming Romance". If you really want to make a creepypasta, make something new, doesn't even have to be an original concept. You can use all the old tropes, as long as you tell the story competently. Psychosis was just a take on the old "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" Plot and it turned out to be one of the best pastas out there. Just don't make a straight up sequel or -god-beware - a fan-sequel.

About the Wi-Fi:
I'd actually consider this to be another part that's just straight up silly and should have been left out (Didn't even notice it that much at first, but the more I think about it, the more farcical it becomes). I mean, what's the implictaion here. Are the demons using Wi-Fi? Is Zombie Mowgli browsing the web on his smartphone? Does Satanic Snow White have an Instagramm? Is Devil-Worshipper Nick on Ebay right now, searching for a new Sacrifical Dagger?
Wi-Fi is something that just doesn't add well to the kind of story this is trying to be. Wi-Fi is something that implies a non-supernatural cause, like a normal person setting it up for whatever reason, which isn't scary (When Hipsters go Camping: A real life Horror Story) - and the alternative, some supernatural entity installing a Wi-Fi hotspot in its home, is just comical (Vodafone Contract 666: Flatrate to Hell).
It could work fine if the plot was about cyberdemons from the internet. It doesn't work for Undead Mickey and Friends.
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There was a prequel to "Abandoned by Disney" called "A Few Suggestions" but I can see what you mean. Like @MayMay said, the sequel has to be loosely based. "A Tape from Treasure Island" was a derivative sequel. Think of it as someone who read Abandoned by Disney and wanted to make his/her own discovery. Don't Wi-Fi need a source device in order for it to work? Even if Zombie Mogwli, Demonic Snow White and Rotting Mickey were using mobile devices and/or laptops wouldn't they need a wireless modem to get the connection? You're right about it being silly and now after reading this discussion about it, I can see where you are going.
 
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Well "A few suggestions" was also kinda vague, I think Slimebeast himself made a note on how the reader could decide whether or not it was actually a prequel or if it just didn't happen.
 
I don't like creepypastas having sequels/prequels in general. They always feel like they were just tacked-on to give more answers. I've already mentioned this in the fandom thread, but for me, the best creepypastas are the ones that are subtle and ambiguous. A good example from Japanese horror is Fuan no Tane, a manga which consists entirely of short stories with open endings.
 
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R.A.E.L. said:
I don't like creepypastas having sequels/prequels in general. They always feel like they were just tacked-on to give more answers. I've already mentioned this in the fandom thread, but for me, the best creepypastas are the ones that are subtle and ambiguous. A good example from Japanese horror is Fuan no Tane, a manga which consists entirely of short stories with open endings.
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I've got to say, from reading a bit of Fuan no Tane, I'm intrigued. I've always liked horror stories where the ending is left up to the reader's imagination...
 
Fuan no Tane is pretty cool overall. Most stories have just the right length - reminds me of "Write a horror story in two sentences".



I dont think, that "A few suggestions" was supposed to be a serious prequel. I thought it was more a tongue in cheek parody and one of the better slimebeast stories (since I always thought a lot of his stories were more laughable than scary, seeing him put the horror aside to write a straight up silly comedy seems to be a good choice - it's always great to see an author having a sense of humor about themselves).
When I say that there should be no creepypasta sequels (or prequels or spin-offs or anything similar), that of course does not include parodies. Writing a parody prequel/sequel, be it fanmade, or - like in this case - even from the original author, actually works fine.

Maybe there is a way to make a straightforward genuine horror sequel, but those I've read so far were terrible - Sequels or continuations to Abandoned by Disney (which we already talked about)/ NoEnd House (where the heroine addict friend from the first part turns out to be a high wizard battling his magical sister or something)/ Candle Cove (where the solution to what happened to the show creator was: I didn't like him and he died by accident in front of me, so I hid his body and never told anybody about this for no reason whatsoever) / and then of course tons of stuff about Sonic.exe (A sibling team of Cops investigate a series of murders - could this weird cult worshipping an extradimensional being, that looks like sonic the hedgehog, have anything to do with the case?) or Jeff the Killer (Jeff either transformed into the Ringu-ghost, or has become super hacker with teleporation super powers). Since the originals were already really low quality works in those two cases, seeing the spin-offs, sequels and prequels stoop even lower often makes them amusingly bad.
 
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Idling said:
Candle Cove (where the solution to what happened to the show creator was: I didn't like him and he died by accident in front of me, so I hid his body and never told anybody about this for no reason whatsoever)
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who disliked the 'sequel' to Candle Cove. Talk about completely missing the point of the original amirite? I don't know why the Wiki has put the story in "Suggested Reading" category, it's just really dull and cliche (oh noes the cast members were sooooo traumatized by the mean director). It's not even written by the original author.
 
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