Culty Mega-thread - High Control Groups

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Brme said:
I record branham. Do you see any healing drama when you go to that iglesia?
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They didn't do any faith healing there. I think the reason why was because one of the parishioners was a severely special needs guy with epilepsy. The people there were genuinely nice and they probably respected him enough to not try that bullshit on him.

I'd be amazed if Branham has enough followers to meet in an actual church or iglesia. We always met in an empty office space in a remote strip mall. It was the kind of place you wouldn't even drive by unless you were specifically going there. I've never heard of Branham before I met that group and I haven't met any of his followers since I left.
 
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Great start. Quick condensed intros that allow the reader to quickly consume and decide if they want to chase that particular rabbit. Keep it up.
 
I had forgotten about Jilly Juice and parents forcing their kids to drink that slime. 🤮

River Phoenix said that he was raped at four years old while his family was still in the Children of God cult. Joaquin later said it was a joke. But given that Children of God is a pedo paradise I'm thinking it's highly likely that it was true.
 
I ruined my friend's day by telling her the Aquabats were mormons. She frantically had to confirm it was true.

She HATES mormons, after leaving the church they keep sending retarded kids to knock on her door and give her pamphlets, and the church itself raised her to hate herself. Crying shame it is.

The only good thing the mormon church has produced in my opinion is Joshua Graham, and even then it's just cause he's a fallout character.
 
ShiftyBoi said:
I ruined my friend's day by telling her the Aquabats were mormons. She frantically had to confirm it was true.

She HATES mormons, after leaving the church they keep sending retarded kids to knock on her door and give her pamphlets, and the church itself raised her to hate herself. Crying shame it is.
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Ambivalence on the Mormon Question, thy name is Meat Target.
ShiftyBoi said:
The only good thing the mormon church has produced in my opinion is Joshua Graham, and even then it's just cause he's a fallout character.
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And John Moses Browning and Brandon Sanderson.

My softball teammates are all Mormons. I drink beer in front of them in the dugout, and they don't mind. Even if they're squares, they're still very friendly and fun to play ball with.

On the other hand: they have some truly off-the-wall theology and no shortage of infamous pervs and kooks. To be fair, those exist in every crowd. But when several states have declared Exterminatus upon you, it's not for no reason.

It's like they have a Manichean duality; they're either saints or shitbags, with no room in between.

Allegedly in Utah, it's hard to get a job or fit in if you're not LDS. I have a friend who lived there as a kid and now hates Mormons for making him feel left out.

I'd argue that of all the cults mentioned ITT, Mormons are probably the most well-adjusted, tolerated, or accepted by the rest of us.
 
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Meat Target said:
they don't mind. Even if they're squares, they're still very friendly and fun to play ball with.
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The issue is when they ice you out when it comes to moving up in life. They're notorious for only giving opportunities to other mormons when it matters. Non-mormons are easily fooled because they equate being friendly with not having an extreme ingroup bias..
 
Another one you could include is the Church of Eternal Life, the cult that the former president of South Korea Park Geun-hye was involved with which led to her impeachment (long story short). There's also a conspiracy theory that the ship MV Sewol in 2014 was allowed to sink as a mass sacrifice for the cult.

You may want to add something about Ricky Rodriguez and his murder-suicide of one of the Children of God members who abused him as a child. I think the encouragement of child sexual abuse (and the fact that they disseminated child pornography) in the cult is too often glossed over and a lot of people just think they're kooky weirdos who make funny music videos instead of absolutely evil.

Also there's interesting UFO cults like Unarius and Pana-wave that are a little more entertaining than just simply insidious.
 
Other relevant threads:

Andrew Peter Carlson - small-time cult leader of something called "Hebrew Roots", a weird mixture of fundamentalist Judaism and free-love hippy-ism and the partaking of large amounts of drugs.
Melinda Scott and Marshall Castersen - The "Mountain Jews", former members of Carlson's cult who he stalked and harassed. They initially turned up in Carlson's thread to dunk on him, but Melinda in particular was so abrasive and insane that the Farms turned on them and dug up all sorts of embarrassing information about them. They got their own thread that ended up dwarfing Carlson's. Scott attempted to sue Null a total of 6 times for vague and contradictory things and lost every time. They would film themselves trying to curse Null in the name of "Yahoo-wah". Their marriage was a drug-fuelled disaster and eventually Castersen shot himself in front of her and she has been quiet since.

It's notable that none of the above people were ethnically Jewish, but I think the doctrine was that everyone can trace their lineages to the 12 tribes or something.

James Lloyd Evans - An ex-Jehova's Witness who is trying to run some sort of support group for other apostates but appears to be bugfuck insane and spent charitable contributions on hookers, admitted to being a sex addict but blamed the JWs somehow.
 
Not an active cult but here's a cool ebook by a guy who escaped the Frederick "Rama" Lenz cult back in the 80s and 90s.
  • Vaguely Eastern Zen-Hindu drug-fuelled new agers lead by an "Enlightened" white guy
  • Splintered off from the Sri Chinmoy movement which is basically a cult in its own right but less backstreet
  • Moved around a lot, from San Francisco and LA to New York, back to California and eventually settled in Chicago.
  • Adherents were encouraged/forced to get well paid jobs in the emerging computer programming industry to fund the cult and the leader's lifestyle
  • Actually made some half-decent software
  • Rama got too drunk one night, fell into his swimming pool and drowned
  • Tragically some of their best software ended up being owned by CA
It's a cool insight into a small-time cult by a naive young ground-floor adherent with an overall positive outlook on life. No part of this book may be reproduced in any manner without written permission from the publisher, unless the intent is to benefit humankind. KF obviously qualifies.

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Mike Matei's Penis said:
So what's the difference between a cult and an organized religion, aside from member count? Sorry to tip my fedora.
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In the modern definition of a cult, it's centered on a single charismatic leader rather than a broad or universal doctrine. In a cult it doesn't matter what you believe as long as you believe what The Leader wants you to right now.

So you could tip your hat and argue that Jesus and his disciples were a cult, but the Church of Rome and it's spin-offs are religions.
 
Lithos said:
ISKCON probably needs to be on this list, too.
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It is, check Part II. It's under historical.

Hog Grease said:
I really find cults fascinating, great start OP :semperfidelis:
A possible cult for inactive cults section should be The Ant Hill Kids, a Canadian cult from the eighties. Be warned, it's pretty gruesome. Count Dankula did an in-depth video on it.
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Already done, check historical.

Pedophobe said:
In the modern definition of a cult, it's centered on a single charismatic leader rather than a broad or universal doctrine. In a cult it doesn't matter what you believe as long as you believe what The Leader wants you to right now.

So you could tip your hat and argue that Jesus and his disciples were a cult, but the Church of Rome and it's spin-offs are religions.
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Disagree on Jesus, he didn't police the life of his disciples and didn't control anyone.
The larger organized religions are too large to control their members that effectively but local groups and smaller cells can be certainly seen as cults.
 
@KifflomKween, great work updating the OP. One suggestion I have is maybe for the Scientology and NoI/Nuwaubian Nation sections, a brief explanation of who Yakub and Xenu are/their story would be good as they're pretty funny, even if it's brief like Yakub is the evil creator of the white race and Xenu put frozen aliens in volcanos and nuked them and that's why you're depressed.
 
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