Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

[Secret Asshole]

its weird witnessing a project/community ruined by danger hair diversity hires before it even actually crystalizes as a thing, this is like zoe quinn burning the first comic book in progress, very impressive kill rate they have going

To be fair, the whole mess of Cyberpunk 2077 REEKS of utterly, utterly incompetent middle-managment. It feels like a game designed by suits.

"Make the Wanted System like GTA. I don't care if it doesn't fucking work or the engine barely handles it, we need it for talking points for moms to buy their snot nosed bastards for Christmas. Make it fucking work. We'll fix it in post."

"Jesus Christ, you need more experienced modelers for what? Customization? Who gives a shit. Cut them down to the bare bones. One skeleton fits all. We'll fix it in post."

"What do you mean its got more bugs and engine issues than a 1979 Ford Pacer? We'll fix it in post."

"Our models don't work properly? Its first person. Who cares if they bitch that they can't see the character. Make everything first person. I don't give a shit what problems this causes, we'll fix it in post."

"You're complaining that we've only got like 12 guns? Swap out some palettes, make the system like Borderlands. I told you we're not hiring more modelers. Free DLC will add a couple of shitty guns to shut them up, we'll fix it in post."

"Moddable isn't our concern. They expect Skyrim? Good God. I don't give a shit, we spent 8 years on this, we need our money now. Mod tools? We'll fix it in post."

"What do you mean my management style is hot garbage, I've got my head so far up my ass I'm an anal mobius strip and I'm bleeding designers faster than a seventh generation Hapsburg with a papercut? Who cares, we'll hire some Canadians who will work for our minimum wage, which is like fucking royalty to them. I don't give a shit that they're untalented, inexperienced and have burned a billion dollar franchise to the ground. We'll...oh wait, we can't fix this at all. I must be fired, right? Oh, you mean I'm promoted? HA! I fucking love the gaming industry."

If you step back and look at what is in and what was cut, it is all corporate decision-making. It fucking REEKS of it. It isn't SJWism that ruined CD Projekt. CD Projekt took its reputation for granted and did what every gaming company does with a modicum of respect from its audience: Fuck them in the mouth with it. CD Projekt deserves to get ruined for it and I'm glad they're taking it on all sides.

I'm actually pretty sad that it didn't turn out well and will probably knock back open world rpgs as a whole. As much as I like turn based RPGs, this was my best shot at seeing a rival studio pick up Shadowrun and do something neat with it. I'll never be a street mage at this rate

I know man. I only hope this debacle is so big and gets worse somehow that CD Projekt is forced to fix this and it is moddable enough for a total conversion to Shadowrun.

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Comic Book Resource to the rescue. Allow me to save you to click and list of a few good cyberpunk games:
E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy
Deus Ex (the OG and HR)
Both System Shocks
Blade Runner the Game
VA11-HALL-A
Ghostrunner

Uhh...by Trans-Friendly you mean having NO Trans content at all? Like, say what you will, Cyberpunk 2077 is still the most trans friendly game there. Holy shit lol. By even ATTEMPTING to please them they just got shit on. Fucking lol.

 

[MeltyTW]

If you step back and look at what is in and what was cut, it is all corporate decision-making. It fucking REEKS of it. It isn't SJWism that ruined CD Projekt. CD Projekt took its reputation for granted and did what every gaming company does with a modicum of respect from its audience: Fuck them in the mouth with it. CD Projekt deserves to get ruined for it and I'm glad they're taking it on all sides.

seems like both, they wanted to paint trying to get the game out in less than a decade as abusive and had jim "hrt is punk af" sterling beating his chest about abuse in the triple a industry.. these two groups, suits and dangerhairs are paradoxically intertwined more nowadays

 

[M3xus]

View attachment 1801057
Comic Book Resource to the rescue. Allow me to save you to click and list of a few good cyberpunk games:
E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy
Deus Ex (the OG and HR)
Both System Shocks
Blade Runner the Game
VA11-HALL-A
Ghostrunner

E.Y.E.'s learning curve might as well be a fucking cliff, but it's probably the most original game I've played, and mowing down hoards of dudes with bullshit psychic powers and exploding claymores never gets old.

Spoiler: Just make sure...

...your legs are ok.

 

[Urbanmech]

To be fair, the whole mess of Cyberpunk 2077 REEKS of utterly, utterly incompetent middle-managment. It feels like a game designed by suits.

"Make the Wanted System like GTA. I don't care if it doesn't fucking work or the engine barely handles it, we need it for talking points for moms to buy their snot nosed bastards for Christmas. Make it fucking work. We'll fix it in post."

"Jesus Christ, you need more experienced modelers for what? Customization? Who gives a shit. Cut them down to the bare bones. One skeleton fits all. We'll fix it in post."

"What do you mean its got more bugs and engine issues than a 1979 Ford Pacer? We'll fix it in post."

"Our models don't work properly? Its first person. Who cares if they bitch that they can't see the character. Make everything first person. I don't give a shit what problems this causes, we'll fix it in post."

"You're complaining that we've only got like 12 guns? Swap out some palettes, make the system like Borderlands. I told you we're not hiring more modelers. Free DLC will add a couple of shitty guns to shut them up, we'll fix it in post."

"Moddable isn't our concern. They expect Skyrim? Good God. I don't give a shit, we spent 8 years on this, we need our money now. Mod tools? We'll fix it in post."

"What do you mean my management style is hot garbage, I've got my head so far up my ass I'm an anal mobius strip and I'm bleeding designers faster than a seventh generation Hapsburg with a papercut? Who cares, we'll hire some Canadians who will work for our minimum wage, which is like fucking royalty to them. I don't give a shit that they're untalented, inexperienced and have burned a billion dollar franchise to the ground. We'll...oh wait, we can't fix this at all. I must be fired, right? Oh, you mean I'm promoted? HA! I fucking love the gaming industry."

If you step back and look at what is in and what was cut, it is all corporate decision-making. It fucking REEKS of it. It isn't SJWism that ruined CD Projekt. CD Projekt took its reputation for granted and did what every gaming company does with a modicum of respect from its audience: Fuck them in the mouth with it. CD Projekt deserves to get ruined for it and I'm glad they're taking it on all sides.

I know man. I only hope this debacle is so big and gets worse somehow that CD Projekt is forced to fix this and it is moddable enough for a total conversion to Shadowrun.

Uhh...by Trans-Friendly you mean having NO Trans content at all? Like, say what you will, Cyberpunk 2077 is still the most trans friendly game there. Holy shit lol. By even ATTEMPTING to please them they just got shit on. Fucking lol.

It's not just cut content but also the shortcuts they took just made it look like they just went lazy mode. They pretty much took Judy's good ending and just added it to Panams and then you get this awkward scene on the Panzer with Panam when you romanced Judy.

Shadowrun could work but it would be hard pressed to get Deckers since they went weak sauce on the Cyberspace end. The quickhacks could cover mage spells so you get some magic just not sure about Shamans either though. Would be interesting to see someone try it though.

 

[MavisBeaconTeachesSnipin]

uploading for posterity

 

[Secret Asshole]

It's not just cut content but also the shortcuts they took just made it look like they just went lazy mode. They pretty much took Judy's good ending and just added it to Panams and then you get this awkward scene on the Panzer with Panam when you romanced Judy.

Shadowrun could work but it would be hard pressed to get Deckers since they went weak sauce on the Cyberspace end. The quickhacks could cover mage spells so you get some magic just not sure about Shamans either though. Would be interesting to see someone try it though.

Yeah, Judy gets the shaft (BUT NOT IN THE GAME AM I RITE) because they only had one 'good' ending to romances.

Also, I guarantee you 10000000% on why characters with penises can't romance Judy is because during the sex animation she goes down on you, they just didn't want to model one for dicks and another for vaginas lol. That's seriously why she's female only too. Because they were too fucking lazy to do a slightly different scene or another variation on one. It is INCREDIBLE how fucking lazy they were. Which makes Panam the only one to romance. Which really sucks. Feels like a Triss and Yennefer situation again. So they not only didn't include any of the basic features most people take for granted, they removed features from what they were selling and they didn't even learn from their mistakes last time. Holy shit. Fuck CD Projekt. I would put money on this not being open world and being MUCH more linear with a set story, but someone somewhere wanted open world....but never really wanted to put the money or time or effort into it. Seriously feels like a linear game slammed into a non-linear world.

Yeah, Deckers you'd have to basically...I don't even know. Wait for a DLC for them to include it. Or basically somehow make the hacking mini-games decking minigames, ala Deus Ex. Magic would be tough, but do-able. Shamans would be hard, because the AI is beyond fucking terrible. You'd also have to completely revamp stats and perks. It'd be extremely hard. Without it being built to be taken apart or have a very very very robust set of tools, it just isn't going to happen

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

E.Y.E.'s learning curve might as well be a fucking cliff, but it's probably the most original game I've played, and mowing down hoards of dudes with bullshit psychic powers and exploding claymores never gets old.

Spoiler: Just make sure...

...your legs are ok.

But it is easily one of the most rewarding learning curves to overcome. As Mandalore Gaming put it "Most people give up on this game because they don't realize you can turn into Samurai Jack flying around in the Matrix."

Yeah, Judy gets the shaft (BUT NOT IN THE GAME AM I RITE) because they only had one 'good' ending to romances.

Also, I guarantee you 10000000% on why characters with penises can't romance Judy is because during the sex animation she goes down on you, they just didn't want to model one for dicks and another for vaginas lol. That's seriously why she's female only too. Because they were too fucking lazy to do a slightly different scene or another variation on one. It is INCREDIBLE how fucking lazy they were. Which makes Panam the only one to romance. Which really sucks. Feels like a Triss and Yennefer situation again. So they not only didn't include any of the basic features most people take for granted, they removed features from what they were selling and they didn't even learn from their mistakes last time. Holy shit. Fuck CD Projekt.

I would put money on this not being open world and being MUCH more linear with a set story, but someone somewhere wanted open world....but never really wanted to put the money or time or effort into it. Seriously feels

They should've just gone with the Sims route and have the characters be in bed and have it violently shake with hearts falling on it.

 

[Road Work Ahead]

Yeah, Judy gets the shaft (BUT NOT IN THE GAME AM I RITE) because they only had one 'good' ending to romances.

Also, I guarantee you 10000000% on why characters with penises can't romance Judy is because during the sex animation she goes down on you, they just didn't want to model one for dicks and another for vaginas lol. That's seriously why she's female only too. Because they were too fucking lazy to do a slightly different scene or another variation on one. It is INCREDIBLE how fucking lazy they were. Which makes Panam the only one to romance. Which really sucks. Feels like a Triss and Yennefer situation again. So they not only didn't include any of the basic features most people take for granted, they removed features from what they were selling and they didn't even learn from their mistakes last time.

I don't even know why they bothered with the sex scenes. They should have just faded to black and called it a day, or just do what they did for the witcher 1 with the cards.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Also, I have no idea why I'd ever want to side with the Voodoo Boys who set you up to be a suicide bomber over the '''evil''' government agent who doesn't lie to you at all, is completely straight with you, tells you the truth and keeps his promises. Only an idiot would listen to Johnny's advice (who is completely wrong about the entire situation). Fuck them off-brand Haitian motherfuckers.

They should've just gone with the Sims route and have the characters be in bed and have it violently shake with hearts falling on it.

You might just say, "Well, then they could have put that time and money elsewhere" No. No they wouldn't have. I'm not letting those polish faggots get any more excuses. Shit, they could have hired a Source Porn animator to do the fucking thing and get a whole fucking minigame (literally) for probably how much money they spent modeling their 'sex scenes'.

I don't even know why they bothered with the sex scenes. They should have just faded to black and called it a day, or just do what they did for the witcher 1 with the cards.

Because games have to be movies these days I suppose.

EDIT:
God these bugs are infuriating. In 5 minutes:

>The map itself was busted in an area because the areas were shown as 'open' when in reality they were blocked off in the game. Other areas were not like this. The designers did not sync the quest markers properly to the map, so you ran around in circles. Either that or the map/quest were different and never updated and synched it to the new quest.
>Quickhacked and short-circuted not one, not two, but three enemies who all were electrocuted and just stood stock still, upright, with 0 HP in an idle animation as if they were alive, but were dead, their items lootable from their upright bodies
>Last guy alive was 'hiding' behind cover, as in, his skeleton fucked up and he was on his side in the ground at about a 45 degree angle shooting at me.
>Gunned down the survivor to only have "POSITION BEING REVEALED" as if I was being hacked, stuck on my screen at 0 percent done, out of combat, with its obnoxious beeping noise, forcing me to quit back to the main screen.
>Lip synching stopped working for an NPC, so he was there talking to me. His expressions changed with his dialogue, but the lip synching did not update, so he was staring at me with ANGRY FACE while his voice lines were going.

I'm just fucking astonished at how bad this is. Imagine how bad it must have been previously that they didn't ship it out. I have honestly not had a game like this in such a long time.

EDIT2:
Another thing I just realized, the hard way.

About...five minutes after all the glitches I encountered in five minutes...my game broke. Well, to be fair, it didn't so much as break as "We fucked up this door, so it won't open for you, so you can't progress anymore". I tried reloading a save. I tried quitting out and re-launching. Nothing. So I was like, "fuck it, I'll just turn on the console and punch in no clip mode." Wwweellll...............

Cyberpunk 2077 DOESN'T have a console. Not one you can add in XML files. Not one you can turn on. It, flat out, does not have one. And the only way to add one is through a mod.

And....

It doesn't have a noclip mode.

You have to...mod in....no clip. I wish I was joking. I wish, in the year of our Lord 2020, that a game would not have a feature of a game in 1990 had. A noclip function. Fuck you dumb Polish niggers. This is now a 5/10. And yes, I am taking a full point off for not including a fucking console and having to mod in noclip. How in the fuck do people think this thing is going to be moddable without a fucking console, without fucking noclip that you have to add in YOURSELF.

This will not be easy to mod, mark my fucking words. I'm more convinced of that now than ever. Eventually I got it to work by reloading a save from a different area and getting a transition. Because this glitch (Seriously, get this) carried over a modifier from the map where there were screens on doors and it opened them after a quest flag. That flag was never disabled and stuck around, so it added screens on ALL doors. I wasn't actually trying to open a door, I was trying to open a quest flag. Jesus christ. It was from the first glitch in my five minute glitches.

The problem was, the game was reading the map as open, when the quest flag was improperly enabled. So because the quest flag was frozen 'on' but the game considered the quest complete, the map did not sync properly with the game state. So, I was wrong. The map WAS correct. It was the entire play area that was wrong. So the game is for sure having problems enabling and disabling flags for quests and synching them to the game state. By the way, this was on the first run through of this section. So it isn't like a Q&A tester wouldn't have found this if some...any....decent Q&A was done.

 

[HensKenKline]

Cyberpunk 2077 DOESN'T have a console. Not one you can add in XML files. Not one you can turn on. It, flat out, does not have one. And the only way to add one is through a mod.

I assume you are on patch 1.05? The patch notes say they removed some kind of console.

 

[M3xus]

I assume you are on patch 1.05? The patch notes say they removed some kind of console.

Having it, and then removing it (if it is indeed the command console) is even worse. Wonder which dangerhair thought getting rid of it was a priority.

From the official site: "Removed debug console to prevent functions that could lead to crashes or blocked quests. This doesn't mean we don't want to support the modding community. Stay tuned for more info on that.".

Fuck's sake.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Well, I am pissed.

In my earlier post, I explained how I used the vending machine to collect materials (and once deconstructed money) in addition to "medkit" crafting to slowly gain money.

My autism awarded me with 650 DPS Katana and about 2.5 million in credits.
In addition to about 15,000 of the rare components.

I did this because I knew their was a certain time restraint in Act 2. So here I am in the early parts of Act 2 with a fully upgraded Satori Katana one shotting enemies, doing and what happens?

My save files are corrupted.

I spent about 5 hours crafting all for nothing.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Yeah, Judy gets the shaft (BUT NOT IN THE GAME AM I RITE) because they only had one 'good' ending to romances.

Also, I guarantee you 10000000% on why characters with penises can't romance Judy is because during the sex animation she goes down on you, they just didn't want to model one for dicks and another for vaginas lol. That's seriously why she's female only too. Because they were too fucking lazy to do a slightly different scene or another variation on one. It is INCREDIBLE how fucking lazy they were. Which makes Panam the only one to romance. Which really sucks. Feels like a Triss and Yennefer situation again. So they not only didn't include any of the basic features most people take for granted, they removed features from what they were selling and they didn't even learn from their mistakes last time. Holy shit. Fuck CD Projekt. I would put money on this not being open world and being MUCH more linear with a set story, but someone somewhere wanted open world....but never really wanted to put the money or time or effort into it. Seriously feels like a linear game slammed into a non-linear world.

Yeah, Deckers you'd have to basically...I don't even know. Wait for a DLC for them to include it. Or basically somehow make the hacking mini-games decking minigames, ala Deus Ex. Magic would be tough, but do-able. Shamans would be hard, because the AI is beyond fucking terrible. You'd also have to completely revamp stats and perks. It'd be extremely hard. Without it being built to be taken apart or have a very very very robust set of tools, it just isn't going to happen

I think you'd end up running into the same problem with Mages as you would with Deckers. Mages can still do cool stuff in the real world but the astral plane is pretty much the matrix for wizards. You would practically have to write new dialog and encounters for every section of the game for when you're perceiving astrally (which should be nice and dangerous). Not even mentioning hopping out of your body. You'd have to get ambitious with it. Still, I guess you could just make them guys with different guns but that's pretty lame. I think you'd have to have a base game that was just for street samurais and release the same game at least two times.

The closest thing I can think of with a video game giving a specific class specific dialog hidden throughout the game would be Arcanum, where you had that speak with dead spell. There was some neat stuff with that.

Also, if we're talking about open world RPGs. Arcanum.

 

[Secret Asshole]

lol, you know what? Mike Pondsmith is a better voice actor than Keanu Reeves. Fucking lol. It the 30 seconds he was there, he was more emotive and convincing than Reeves was. At least pay for a director who will give Reeves direction. Good lord. Thank christ if they do more story they won't be able to hire him back.

I assume you are on patch 1.05? The patch notes say they removed some kind of console.

Having it, and then removing it (if it is indeed the command console) is even worse. Wonder which dangerhair thought getting rid of it was a priority.

From the official site: "Removed debug console to prevent functions that could lead to crashes or blocked quests. This doesn't mean we don't want to support the modding community. Stay tuned for more info on that.".

Fuck's sake.

Yeah, I am on patch 1.05. Are you fucking shitting me? SERIOUSLY? How does your console being on even DO THAT? You know what....no. Not even going to question it.

Well, I am pissed.

In my earlier post, I explained how I used the vending machine to collect materials (and once deconstructed money) in addition to "medkit" crafting to slowly gain money.

My autism awarded me with 650 DPS Katana and about 2.5 million in credits.
In addition to about 15,000 of the rare components.

I did this because I knew their was a certain time restraint in Act 2. So here I am in the early parts of Act 2 with a fully upgraded Satori Katana one shotting enemies, doing and what happens?

My save files are corrupted.

I spent about 5 hours crafting all for nothing.

I don't even know how you tolerated crafting any more than one thing. Doing everything one at a time, holding down a button like I'm some fucking mongoloid that will accidentally break down their entire inventory.

I mean, it isn't like there's much to buy. No cool apartments, driving is absolute trash so why even by cars.

I think you'd end up running into the same problem with Mages as you would with Deckers. Mages can still do cool stuff in the real world but the astral plane is pretty much the matrix for wizards. You would practically have to write new dialog and encounters for every section of the game for when you're perceiving astrally (which should be nice and dangerous). Not even mentioning hopping out of your body. You'd have to get ambitious with it. Still, I guess you could just make them guys with different guns but that's pretty lame. I think you'd have to have a base game that was just for street samurais and release the same game at least two times.

The closest thing I can think of with a video game giving a specific class specific dialog hidden throughout the game would be Arcanum, where you had that speak with dead spell. There was some neat stuff with that.

Also, if we're talking about open world RPGs. Arcanum.

I mean, it'd be the systems and gameplay, but you'd basically need a full conversion mod ala Enderal from Skyrim, with fully voiced quests and stuff. But I HIGHLY doubt Cyberpunk can support that kind of overhaul.

 

[Fully Eshay Skits Bruh v2]

Well, I am pissed.

In my earlier post, I explained how I used the vending machine to collect materials (and once deconstructed money) in addition to "medkit" crafting to slowly gain money.

My autism awarded me with 650 DPS Katana and about 2.5 million in credits.
In addition to about 15,000 of the rare components.

I did this because I knew their was a certain time restraint in Act 2. So here I am in the early parts of Act 2 with a fully upgraded Satori Katana one shotting enemies, doing and what happens?

My save files are corrupted.

I spent about 5 hours crafting all for nothing.

Wait, there is a timer in act 2? I did almost all the side quests and didn't felt rushed at all. And yes, your save is corrupted due to crafting. If you craft alot of items and your save goes past 8mb its going to brick your save.

 

[AsbestosFlaygon]

Anyone saying that they needed more time and budget are insane, they had more of both then fucking GTA5 had. The only reasonable explanation for this is a impressive amount of incompetency from the management. The people at the lower levels have my sympathy, but whoever was managing this shit honestly needs to be fucking fired.

 

[McAfee'sCorpse]

Quick Question: Let’s say I go to the GameStop website and buy a digital copy of Cyberpunk with the code. I go onto my PS5 and enter the code in the PlayStation Store. Would it work and I would be able to play it on my PS5 or would it just be a waste of $60? Genuinely curious after Sony decided to pull it off the PS store.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Anyone saying that they needed more time and budget are insane, they had more of both then fucking GTA5 had. The only reasonable explanation for this is a impressive amount of incompetency from the management. The people at the lower levels have my sympathy, but whoever was managing this shit honestly needs to be fucking fired.

It's more of me getting all the stuff, cash, crafting components, and gear ready to go so I don't have to waste time once I start the story.

 

[XYZpdq]

Quick Question: Let’s say I go to the GameStop website and buy a digital copy of Cyberpunk with the code. I go onto my PS5 and enter the code in the PlayStation Store. Would it work and I would be able to play it on my PS5 or would it just be a waste of $60? Genuinely curious after Sony decided to pull it off the PS store.

yeah to be more succinct
How can I, as a scummy asshole, use this as an opportunity to hustle some game companies out of a few bucks?

 

[Secret Asshole]

God, they metalized some of 'The Witcher 3' tracks and all I'm thinking.

"Man, I still didn't beat The Witcher 3 with expansions and fuck a busty Redhead. And I'm playing...this."

Note: Don't add references to an amazing game inside of a terrible one.

EDIT:

It's more of me getting all the stuff, cash, crafting components, and gear ready to go so I don't have to waste time once I start the story.

You probably realized, he's not talking about you, just about the Dev team itself to the game