Careercow Dan Harmon - Creator of Community, co-creator of Rick and Morty, and barely functional alcoholic

[One Man Bland]

>What if I told you that CN network did Stevenbombs on purpose
>What if I told you that if it wasnt for Stevenbombs the ratings on SU would have been in the toilet

I’m not saying that it wasn’t an executive decision or that it didn’t help the ratings. I’m saying I’ve never bought into the idea that CN came up with the bombs arbitrarily and the the entire creative team being very clearly jam-packed with lazy Tumblrinas who were already struggling to stick with a schedule had no influence on CN’s choices at all.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I’m not saying that it wasn’t an executive decision or that it didn’t help the ratings. I’m saying I’ve never bought into the idea that CN came up with the bombs arbitrarily and the the entire creative team being very clearly jam-packed with lazy Tumblrinas who were already struggling to stick with a schedule had no influence on CN’s choices at all.

there is some circumstantial evidence to suggest this was a plan by CN but non of it is a silver bullet. I think it may turn out to be the same business here

 

[One Man Bland]

there is some circumstantial evidence to suggest this was a plan by CN but non of it is a silver bullet. I think it may turn out to be the same business here

Okay, I feel like there’s a miscommunication happening.

Let me put it this way: If this was solely an executive decision that has nothing to do with the work ethic (or lack thereof) of the creative team messing with the regular production process and was made arbitrarily out of nowhere, why do all their other shows continue to have a consistent schedule if the bomb format does so much for their ratings? Hell, even Venture Bro’s, despite having similar long dry spells (though this stems from their production team being way smaller), still continues to air in a regular weekly schedule when it returns.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Okay, I feel like there’s a miscommunication happening.

Let me put it this way: If this was solely an executive decision that has nothing to do with the work ethic (or lack thereof) of the creative team messing with the regular production process and was made arbitrarily out of nowhere, why do all their other shows continue to have a consistent schedule if the bomb format does so much for their ratings? Hell, even Venture Bro’s, despite having similar long dry spells (though this stems from their production team being way smaller), still continues to air in a regular weekly schedule when it returns.

I SUSPECT [Cant prove] That the bomb format only works on shows that are very inconsistent (R+M, SU). And for shows with consistent quality (VB) it doesnt do anything for and hurts more then it helps

 

[mr.moon1488]

Lol this is still my favorite thing from this whole affair.

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[PotatoSalad4711]

I wont lie...I liked the MESSAGE of Pickle Rick, but the execution stank

I agree. I think a lot of people hated the “pickle” story points so much they forgot about the therapy session. Which I found interesting. Especially the therapist calling Rick out but Beth and Rick ignoring it all.

 

[PlasticOwls]

>What if I told you that CN network did Stevenbombs on purpose
>What if I told you that if it wasnt for Stevenbombs the ratings on SU would have been in the toilet

Real talk, Steven Universe's pacing issues would've been a lot more bearable if CN didnt space episodes between months/years. And really, more fans would bother turning on the TV rather than just bootlegging it if it had a regular release schedule.

But that's completely off topic and besides the point. Kind of. Rick and Morty is also a series with pacing issues, but it also has a problem releasing episodes in time, so that's their problem more than Adult Swim's

 

[Kamov Ka-52]

agree. I think a lot of people hated the “pickle” story points so much they forgot about the therapy session. Which I found interesting. Especially the therapist calling Rick out but Beth and Rick ignoring it all.

Completely disagree. While I didn't like the Pickle Rick part of the episode, I absolutely hated the therapy sections. The writers, via the therapist, talk down the audience and explain the show's themes/relationships between characters to the viewer as if they were too stupid to understand any of them. On top of being patronizing it was a shitty, boring B plot too.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

For those of you debating the "message" of the Pickle Rick episode starring "Dr. Wong"...



#ObnoxiousSelfInsert

*Notice how they balked at the slantyeyes in the cartoon though. Like this, team...own it!

 

[vertexwindi]

Completely disagree. While I didn't like the Pickle Rick part of the episode, I absolutely hated the therapy sections. The writers, via the therapist, talk down the audience and explain the show's themes/relationships between characters to the viewer as if they were too stupid to understand any of them. On top of being patronizing it was a shitty, boring B plot too.

Yeah but we really needed the show to explain what was obvious from the first season already. Isn't it brilliant they keep cutting away from high-stake action to incredibly dull and mundane scenes??? Do you get it??? The juxtaposition?????

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Completely disagree. While I didn't like the Pickle Rick part of the episode, I absolutely hated the therapy sections. The writers, via the therapist, talk down the audience and explain the show's themes/relationships between characters to the viewer as if they were too stupid to understand any of them. On top of being patronizing it was a shitty, boring B plot too.

Given the tier of rabbid fan that Rick and Morty has? I think that if they didn't do the therapist scenes many of the fans would miss the themes of the show because they think they "empathize" with Rick because they are "So much smarter than everyone else, it is such a burden knowing everything."

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Yeah but we really needed the show to explain what was obvious from the first season already. Isn't it brilliant they keep cutting away from high-stake action to incredibly dull and mundane scenes??? Do you get it??? The juxtaposition?????

To be fair, not everybody has an IQ high enough to appreciate that sort of stuff.

 

[PlasticOwls]

Completely disagree. While I didn't like the Pickle Rick part of the episode, I absolutely hated the therapy sections. The writers, via the therapist, talk down the audience and explain the show's themes/relationships between characters to the viewer as if they were too stupid to understand any of them. On top of being patronizing it was a shitty, boring B plot too.

Id argue that it was point of the episode. That, despite all the whacky adventures and achievements Rick achieves, it's readily apparent, to even a boring therapist, that Rick's problems are really just as easy to grasp as anyone else's.

You'd think that'd be obvious and patronizing, but you're also talking about the show whose fandom is more obtuse than bricks smeared with concrete and autism.

And real talk, sperging about how woymen ruined episode is also kind of exceptional too.

 

[Kamov Ka-52]

Id argue that it was point of the episode. That, despite all the whacky adventures and achievements Rick achieves, it's readily apparent, to even a boring therapist, that Rick's problems are really just as easy to grasp as anyone else's.

You'd think that'd be obvious and patronizing, but you're also talking about the show whose fandom is more obtuse than bricks smeared with concrete and autism.

You're making excuses for shitty writing.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

For those of you debating the "message" of the Pickle Rick episode starring "Dr. Wong"...

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#ObnoxiousSelfInsert

*Notice how they balked at the slantyeyes in the cartoon though. Like this, team...own it! View attachment 965697

Wait, didn't this writer bitch about the show using Academy Award winner Susan Sarandon to voice the character instead of a proud Asian WAHMEN OF COLOR? (Also, if you're going to wear a dress with a plunging neckline, you should make sure you can't fit a corncob between your tits, because if you can, it just looks like you have a shitty, bolt-on boob job.)

 

[Doctor Placebo]

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It's must've been really awkward when Dan not only brought his Asian call girl to the awards ceremony, but she insisted on holding the trophy too.

 

[AnOminous]

It's must've been really awkward when Dan not only brought his Asian call girl to the awards ceremony, but she insisted on holding the trophy too.

He looks drunk off his ass. I wonder if he even knows where he is.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

That's how Dan dodged that MeToo bullet. He did the Feminist equivalent of buying indulgences.

Dan would be much worse than Weinstein if he could keep his shit together. Fortunately, he's such a pathetic drunk that he'll never amass any real power in Hollywood.

His MO is pretty simple if you've ever dealt with a narcissist-addict before.

1) He hires women he finds attractive to the writers' room of his shows. (the writers' room is where Dan has most of his "power")
2) He heaps undue praise and affection upon the women, often claiming that they're funnier than he is.
3) If they do not return his affection, he will then start to resent them. This manifests in Dan working them harder, undermining their work, and wearing them down with constant passive aggressive criticism until they quit (or he is fired).
4) When someone calls Dan out, he will site his previous praise of them and blame his behavior on his alcoholism. Eventually, he will come out with a self-serving apology in which he shifts fault from himself to society, vowing to become better and leading the fight to change how society treats women.
5) People forgive him and the cycle starts over again.

 

[Imposteroak]

Just going by the commentary on earlier seasons it seems like the reason we are getiing 5 episodes is because dan keeps delivering the final scripts late and the higher ups are tired of delays hiking up the budget. Just speculation but it wouldnt surprise if during the contract negotiations "if you guys want a bigger cut, you have to deliver the episodes on time." was brought up. A huge show not being produced on time and going over budget because of that can really chafe the higher ups I imagine. From what i understand how and when episodes are released is almost soley up to the networks discretion, to the point even creators sometimes dont know when shit will be out if ever.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

5) People forgive him and the cycle starts over again.

"The Drunken Lech's Journey", by Dan Harmon

Hey, at least he didn't have to rip off his betters like Campbell for this one.