Daniel Micay / strcat / strncat / thestinger / GrapheneOS - Schizo software programmer and developer of GrapheneOS Android ROM. Starts drama with everyone and accuses them of harassment. Chronic brigader and bridge burner.

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I would like to correct that randonndude. Daniel wont become the next TempleOS guy because Daniel needs a whole team to make an OS no one uses and people heard of Terry Davis.

 

[Markass the Worst]

It's been a while, hasn't it? Posting here now because of a certain fat faggot hoaxster, but we'll get to that in a bit.

Somehow I missed this tweet on June 12. Apparently the point of stepping down isn't to distance himself from the project or improve the project's PR, it's to bide his time to defend against "the fabrications, harassment, and now also real world attacks".


But did he really step down? The GrapheneOS Twitter (X) account seems to just be parroting the same talking points as him, accusing Rossmann of being "dishonest", "highly malicious", "underhanded" and "directing harassment" towards them. I wouldn't be surprised if Daniel's still running that account, and either way we don't have any way to tell.

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Continuing on in the same thread is Daniel Micay replying to a simp who agrees:

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And replying to someone else who has their account privated:


And now it's time for the cow crossover no one asked for: Hector "Marcan" Martin!

Hector knows that Louis posted on KF and keeps telling everyone about it - someone called out Hector's bullshit with the video that @Markass the Worst posted, and Hector immediately corrected the wrongthink
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The faggot gets converted immediately, makes a snarky remark about "Internet generation intuition":
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But some Akkoma user states the facts:
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And finally the newly converted moron proves Godwins Law again (note that he is german, germans still have a comically exaggerated remorse over the WWII):

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Spoiler: More screeching

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Context is that Marcan made some posts about how some people in right-to-repair are retarded for thinking that Apple is evil. Louis Rossmann made a video going over this and saying he's wrong. Marcan's response is "he made a video on Daniel Micay and got cited in Micay's Kiwifarms thread, therefore, YIKES, he's participating in a KF campaign and I'm not listening to what he says."

So it seems that Marcan has completely swallowed Daniel Micay's bullshit. I wonder if he also believes that Copperhead, Techlore, Seth Simmons, and Nick Merrill are harassing Daniel too.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Marcan's response is "he made a video on Daniel Micay and got cited in Micay's Kiwifarms thread, therefore, YIKES, he's participating in a KF campaign and I'm not listening to what he says."

Technically, Rossman DOES have an account here. He's not a funposter though and just sticks to his own thread, only posting there a handful of times. But in the eyes of commies, even exchanging a few sentences with Very Bad People™ is the same as endorsing everything they've ever done.

Damn, I just bought a new phone and Graphene looked like it had gotten depozzed. Guess I'm going with Calyx.

 

[Wodanaz]

But did he really step down? The GrapheneOS Twitter (X) account seems to just be parroting the same talking points as him, accusing Rossmann of being "dishonest", "highly malicious", "underhanded" and "directing harassment" towards them. I wouldn't be surprised if Daniel's still running that account, and either way we don't have any way to tell.

I really hope this faggot isn't still silently working on grapheneos. If it comes out that he has been, then fuck privacy oriented FOSS, I'm reinstalling stock android on my pixel and proceeding with security through obscurity.

 

[YourFellowMeanie]

But did he really step down? The GrapheneOS Twitter (X) account seems to just be parroting the same talking points as him, accusing Rossmann of being "dishonest", "highly malicious", "underhanded" and "directing harassment" towards them. I wouldn't be surprised if Daniel's still running that account, and either way we don't have any way to tell.

I have heard that within his community there are retards that take his word completely at face value, I can see the twitter being run by one of these retards, but I can also see the step down being bullshit.

Damn, I just bought a new phone and Graphene looked like it had gotten depozzed. Guess I'm going with Calyx.

Has there been any incident other that Micay being a schizo that should be cause for alarm? I have graphene, I think its a great project and there are features that I think make it stand out amongst other android roms, so if their code is still open source and their still dedicated to privacy I'm hesitant to switch over to another os.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Crossposting clips from today's MATI stream.

Marcan attacks Rossmann for having a KF account: (timestamp 1:04:42)
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Marcan is Asahi Lina: (timestamp 1:21:47)
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"Byuu's dead, ay dios mio!" (timestamp 2:23:16)
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Jersh uses LineageOS now instead of GrapheneOS due to Daniel Micay being a schizo. (timestamp 2:24:50)
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IncogNET, the ISP that is helping dear feeder in his quest to receive transit through Hurricane Electric, has apparently stumbled upon the fact that /r/privacy completely bans discussion of GrapheneOS, and the GrapheneOS account says their moderators are "malicious". I think /r/privacy is retarded and the privacy community is full of spergs and could potentially get their own thread, but that'd be a lot of research. (By the way, who archived this tweet before I did?)

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Has there been any incident other that Micay being a schizo that should be cause for alarm? I have graphene, I think its a great project and there are features that I think make it stand out amongst other android roms, so if their code is still open source and their still dedicated to privacy I'm hesitant to switch over to another os.

If they ever pushed out a malicious update, people would definitely screech and their reputation would be irreversibly ruined (even more than it already has by having a spastic at the former helm). That said, nothing prevents them from actually physically pushing the update to target a specific person and just suffering the consequences. It depends on whether you think they're going to do that and how much risk you're willing to take if so.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

If they ever pushed out a malicious update, people would definitely screech and their reputation would be irreversibly ruined (even more than it already has by having a spastic at the former helm). That said, nothing prevents them from actually physically pushing the update to target a specific person and just suffering the consequences. It depends on whether you think they're going to do that and how much risk you're willing to take if so.

How would they identify that specific person?

I have no reason be believe that Graphene AS AN OS is compromised at this time, I'm just concerned about how they conduct themselves in general. But I don't really see how they'd target a malicious update without compromising the OS itself to gather WAY more information than it does now.

 

[Markass the Worst]

But I don't really see how they'd target a malicious update without compromising the OS itself to gather WAY more information than it does now.

That's correct. Again, it would be a huge breach of trust, and the backlash would be enormous, but it's not something that's physically impossible to happen.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

That's correct. Again, it would be a huge breach of trust, and the backlash would be enormous, but it's not something that's physically impossible to happen.

I think the targeted part is impossible, at least as things stand. I mean, let's say I'm using Graphene and Daniel Micay decides that he hates me personally. How does he pick me out from a thousand other Graphene users?

Now Graphene could theoretically be modified to do this, but it requires a bunch of EXTREMELY unlikely what-ifs. Let's say that Daniel has full control over the entire codebase. While I'm not that familiar with the specifics of the Android permissions model, I assume the OS itself can silently spy on anything. But it's not set up that way currently. Someone would have to make massive, SWEEPING changes to how Graphene works, without anyone noticing, and send them to every user. THEN they could start figuring out who's who. In other words, there's no way to start targeting people without compromising the WHOLE THING in an incredibly loud and obvious way.

Unless there's something I've missed.

 

[clipartfan92]

By the way, who archived this tweet before I did?

I archive almost every link I click on, whether a tweet, article, or webpage, usually in triplicate to archive.org, archive.today, and ghostarchive.org. I really hope they get snscrape working again because it made archiving tweets a breeze.

I think the targeted part is impossible, at least as things stand. I mean, let's say I'm using Graphene and Daniel Micay decides that he hates me personally. How does he pick me out from a thousand other Graphene users?

I'd be more worried about a general attack against people who visit "hate sites" or something along those lines. Commit the bad update, push it out, brick anyone's phone that had been determined to visit a wrongthink site on the device. It would destroy all trust in the project, but I don't think it's something unthinkable for an unhinged person like Micay if he's still got access to the repos. I'm sure some paranoid autist that looks over recent commits would notice it and spread the word almost instantly, but it's still an unsettling thought. I have a hazy recollection of ROMs putting in things to mess with (nothing malicious, iirc) LuckyPatcher users many, many moons ago.

 

[DavidS877]

I'd be more worried about a general attack against people who visit "hate sites" or something along those lines. Commit the bad update, push it out, brick anyone's phone that had been determined to visit a wrongthink site on the device. It would destroy all trust in the project, but I don't think it's something unthinkable for an unhinged person like Micay if he's still got access to the repos. I'm sure some paranoid autist that looks over recent commits would notice it and spread the word almost instantly, but it's still an unsettling thought. I have a hazy recollection of ROMs putting in things to mess with (nothing malicious, iirc) LuckyPatcher users many, many moons ago.

These days the SSL/TLS library is the pathway to pretty much everything. I expect that would be pretty easy to hook. But it probably also has a lot of eyes on it. Could also do something like the DNS library and if it sees "Evil" DNS lookups do something bad or set a flag for something else to do something bad.

 

[clipartfan92]

For full disclosure, I use GrapheneOS and have no plans of switching it up anytime soon. I've been using unlocked Android phones for 11 years now and been through countless ROMs in that time and seen many weird devs come and go. The team behind Graphene is very competent and until they give me a solid reason not to trust them, I'll trust them. It all boils down to how much risk you're willing to take and what your specific use case is. I'll trust crackpots like Micay with my privacy over Google, any day of the week.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

I'd be more worried about a general attack against people who visit "hate sites" or something along those lines.

It sort of already happened when a year and a half ago shortly after the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, some sped updated some js library of his to wipe any user data it could access if it determined the user was in Russia or Belarus based on GeoIP or some shit, because as we all know, Russia Bad and GeoIP is never wrong.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/protestware_javascript_node_ipc/

 

[Broken Vending Machine]

I think the targeted part is impossible, at least as things stand. I mean, let's say I'm using Graphene and Daniel Micay decides that he hates me personally. How does he pick me out from a thousand other Graphene users?

Now Graphene could theoretically be modified to do this, but it requires a bunch of EXTREMELY unlikely what-ifs. Let's say that Daniel has full control over the entire codebase. While I'm not that familiar with the specifics of the Android permissions model, I assume the OS itself can silently spy on anything. But it's not set up that way currently. Someone would have to make massive, SWEEPING changes to how Graphene works, without anyone noticing, and send them to every user. THEN they could start figuring out who's who. In other words, there's no way to start targeting people without compromising the WHOLE THING in an incredibly loud and obvious way.

Unless there's something I've missed.

It is not impossible, Take Rossman, you could code things in to your project to target certain keywords or if the phone is used to access a publicly known email address login. His email is known to skitzo Daniel. That is why the trust was broken. He had full access to the entire phones OS. He could hide surprises in the code anywhere. And despite the false FOSS claim. Nobody goes line by line auditing code on every update. It is rather easy to slip something passed. It is all reactive, the damage has to be done then the drama happens and then they are kicked out of FOSS. The damage to Rossman could never be undone.
That is why he nuked the OS off his phone and said he could not trust them.
I personally know of a similar situation, if you used the program SpecialK to enhance certain steam games? The dev of it, used the Steam API to sabotage the program if you argued with him on the steam forums. He literally added your name to "the list" after he sperged out at you and it would fuck with the games in some way. FOSS is full of petty spergy Stalins. Never take the chance. Because all he has to do is shed a username and his in group will welcome him back.

 

[Chukipz]

I would *love* to run GrapheneOS. I just can't trust someone as obviously mentally unwell as Daniel Micay with the signing keys to my OS and device.

 

[YourFellowMeanie]

I would *love* to run GrapheneOS. I just can't trust someone as obviously mentally unwell as Daniel Micay with the signing keys to my OS and device.

Honestly a valid sentiment, even with a reputation as good as GrapheneOS it's not unwise to scrutinize it due to the lead dev's behavior.

I still use GrapheneOS personally, the way I see it is with the reputation they have for being the top privacy android rom, I'm sure their community still desires to maintain that mission statement. Even if a malicious update was pushed, whether it be by one of the other devs or Micay hiding behind a sock puppet, I'm not 100% convinced this could be done quietly. Perhaps this is just me coping, the entire situation definitely makes me question using the OS at all.

My thoughts aside, If you think the OS cannot be trusted, again, that is a highly valid opinion to have. Perhaps you could try alternatives like CalyxOS or LineageOS.

 

[Matt Hamilton]

I posted in a fediverse thread that I wasn't interested in GrapheneOS for a myriad of reasons, including the instability of the developer: https://noagendasocial.com/@eriner/110945785136150407

Prior to today, I knew nothing of Daniel Micay other than what was mentioned in Louis Rossman's video two months ago.

Somebody tagged @GrapheneOS and said strcat was off the project. Whoever is running the GrapheneOS account (I suspect strcat) got involved in the thread and said I was "part of a harassment campaign against them involving spreading fabricated stories, repeatedly making baseless claims that they're insane, doxxing and swatting. ... Your harassment is unacceptable and will be addressed", vaguely threatening me the same way they did Louis.

Screenshot in this post. I think they deleted their post but idk because they blocked me: https://noagendasocial.com/@eriner/110951005800406634

It should go without saying, but I have nothing to do with this guy or any "campaign" against him. In fact, the only time I've ever mentioned him was in a post I made expressing my distaste for telcos that enable swatting through their incompetence or complicity: https://noagendasocial.com/@eriner/110488831417260279

If he actually has been swatted, I have sympathy for him in that regard. However his reaction to my mundane post seems pretty par for the course given my new understanding of this guy's history.

I didn't give a shit about strcat before today and still don't. My experience has confirmed my belief that he's a loon who actively crybullies people and wears his false victimhood like a cape of glory. You couldn't pay me to make me use his OS.

There's my penny for the jar.

 

[Markass the Worst]

I posted in a fediverse thread that I wasn't interested in GrapheneOS for a myriad of reasons, including the instability of the developer: https://noagendasocial.com/@eriner/110945785136150407

Someone in that thread asked if strcat is still a part of the project and the account didn't answer.

With how much the GrapheneOS account keeps repeating Micay's lies I honestly am suspicious that he isn't part of the project anymore. I think Louis' skepticism of the step down announcement was justified.

Plus, that pedophile hoaxer Hector Martin is on his side. That should say enough.

 

[Matt Hamilton]

He keeps replying to the thread because... well I think his issues have been well documented here and elsewhere.

Here's some parody, fair-use, original art that succinctly captures my displeasure:

 

[Matt Hamilton]

Well, as it turns out my fedi OP bitching about Apple randomly replacing "Precipitation" with "Rainfall" has caused them to have a bitch-fit and import a fedi blocklist and threaten to shut down their server.



I don't give a fuck about Daniel or GrapheneOS but at this point it's so ridiculous I have no choice but to laugh at the insanity.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/110953833532372996