DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

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Basic Blond Boy said:
Lex is fairly similar to Joker, but to a much worse degree. Lex is the man who practically owns Metropolis and has connections to numerous world governments as both an arms dealer and political figure. Hell, the man has taken up the role of president in numerous iterations. Killing Lex would likely mean war with the world governments, something the Justice League cartoon went into. By that point, the JL will be forced into being dictators or being hunted.
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The governments and power-brokers of the world are filled with criminals. They're fine with Superman saving busses filled with schoolkids or foiling bank robbers. The moment Superman starts looking at them though, is the moment they start pulling out all the stops to bring him down. I think that's one reason Superman in Universe tries to be such a paragon and inspiration to people to do the right thing. Because he can't oppose evil leaders directly without it turning into a Him vs. Society / Humanity thing (or it being turned into that by his opponents). But he can represent an ideal that helps inspire the only people who can bring them down.

Maybe that's why his alter ego is a reporter. Superman fights the obvious threats, Clark Kent fights the more subtle ones.

Heh - this has just reminded me of that great comment someone made: "I want to see a Superman movie where the CIA try to kill Clark Kent. Not because they know he's Superman, but just because he's a really, really good reporter. Make it a comedy where they keep failing to kill him and can't work out why."

That cracks me up. They should do this and title it: "Clark Kent vs. The Elite".

Basic Blond Boy said:
Joker's pension to be a monkey wrench is actually fairly valuable to Batman.
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Greatest respect and I agree with every point you made. But "penchant".
 
It used to be common knowledge that DC superheroes are, for the most part, fairly idealistic and don't kill unless absolutely necessary, or not at all in the case of Batman. However, after Injustice and the Snyderverse, I've seen more people questioning that aspect. If anything, the Avengers were the ones with slightly fewer qualms about killing. Such as most of them trying to kill Thanos.

As interesting as Injustice might have been, it was created by the same people who made the edgy Mortal Kombat series as an alternate universe (AU). It definitively isn't the norm. And Snyder definitively twisted the characters to fit his edgy tastes. I am not even an Injustice hater, but the fact that WB neglected their characters for so long has warped most people's perception of them.
 
Mystery Spy said:
It used to be common knowledge that DC superheroes are, for the most part, fairly idealistic and don't kill unless absolutely necessary, or not at all in the case of Batman. However, after Injustice and the Snyderverse, I've seen more people questioning that aspect. If anything, the Avengers were the ones with slightly fewer qualms about killing. Such as most of them trying to kill Thanos.

As interesting as Injustice might have been, it was created by the same people who made the edgy Mortal Kombat series as an alternate universe (AU). It definitively isn't the norm. And Snyder definitively twisted the characters to fit his edgy tastes. I am not even an Injustice hater, but the fact that WB neglected their characters for so long has warped most people's perception of them.
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Yeah the 2010s had a lot of DC stuff become super edgy that the no-kill rule just looks silly.

From Injustice having the Joker nuke an entire city and Batman somehow still try to spare him, Arkham Knight having the Joker mutilate children and give AIDs to everyone, and Snyderverse having Batman gun down random goons but Lex Luthor and The Joker (who killed Dick Grayson mind you) are both alive and well.

The general public was spared from Snyder's cuckoldry storyline since that would've made things worse. Like DC would have had their own Paul fiasco before Spider-Man had it.
 
Overly Serious said:
Heh - this has just reminded me of that great comment someone made: "I want to see a Superman movie where the CIA try to kill Clark Kent. Not because they know he's Superman, but just because he's a really, really good reporter. Make it a comedy where they keep failing to kill him and can't work out why."
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Imagine Clark Kent going through a sort-of detective story from the POV of the guy he's investigating.

In spite of all the security and failsafes, this nondescript neb keeps finding stuff out... always seems to BE there....and the corrupt POV dude slowly losing it and worrying he's becoming sloppy and about to drop damning evidence on himself till he breaks down and confesses everything. Complete with the evidence Clark scooped up, of course, but it's icing on the cake. Then the guy has the premonition HOW Kent could do it all, but by then, it just sounds like a convicted douchebag making shit up about how Superman posed as a reporter in an attempt to save his hide and face.

That'd be one way to bring back "fed up with evil's shit" Golden Age, actual social justice-fighter Supes.
 
Overly Serious said:
Heh - this has just reminded me of that great comment someone made: "I want to see a Superman movie where the CIA try to kill Clark Kent. Not because they know he's Superman, but just because he's a really, really good reporter. Make it a comedy where they keep failing to kill him and can't work out why."
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Mayor Cody Travers said:
Imagine Clark Kent going through a sort-of detective story from the POV of the guy he's investigating.

In spite of all the security and failsafes, this nondescript neb keeps finding stuff out... always seems to BE there....and the corrupt POV dude slowly losing it and worrying he's becoming sloppy and about to drop damning evidence on himself till he breaks down and confesses everything. Complete with the evidence Clark scooped up, of course, but it's icing on the cake. Then the guy has the premonition HOW Kent could do it all, but by then, it just sounds like a convicted douchebag making shit up about how Superman posed as a reporter in an attempt to save his hide and face.

That'd be one way to bring back "fed up with evil's shit" Golden Age, actual social justice-fighter Supes.
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Funny enough, we already got a very similar premise to this as an episode of STAS
 
This man is retarded and it's proof Batman fans like him and Snyder should stay away from other heroes

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Did this idiot not consider that having a psycho lead the film, play three roles, and be fucking annoying tank it? Or did he consider that reminiscing about a movie that wasn't universally beloved didn't kill it? Or maybe the use of AI of Dead/Living Actors for a masturbatory cameo fest would be bad.

This man better hope his IT series is good enough to keep him on.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
This man is retarded and it's proof Batman fans like him and Snyder should stay away from other heroes

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Did this idiot not consider that having a psycho lead the film, play three roles, and be fucking annoying tank it? Or did he consider that reminiscing about a movie that wasn't universally beloved didn't kill it? Or maybe the use of AI of Dead/Living Actors for a masturbatory cameo fest would be bad.

This man better hope his IT series is good enough to keep him on.
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It wasn’t desecrating the graves of dead men, it wasn’t the rapist lead, it wasn’t the ugly dyke Supergirl, it wasn’t the disrespect to Keaton Bats, it wasn’t adapting a hated story, no, it’s our fault.

Have fun Batman fans, this retard is coming for your guy next.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
This man is retarded and it's proof Batman fans like him and Snyder should stay away from other heroes

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Did this idiot not consider that having a psycho lead the film, play three roles, and be fucking annoying tank it? Or did he consider that reminiscing about a movie that wasn't universally beloved didn't kill it? Or maybe the use of AI of Dead/Living Actors for a masturbatory cameo fest would be bad.

This man better hope his IT series is good enough to keep him on.
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I guess the CW Flash doesn’t exist. It isn’t like that Flash topped Netflix and CW viewership records.

Honestly, this Tweet is pure cope on all levels. The Flash was a big character throughout the 2010s. Even the part about women hating him is wrong, as the CW primarily appealed to that demographic. The movie was doomed to fail as it was part of a shit universe, had an awful lead actor and frankly wasn’t very good. Movie would have done better had they just got Grant to play the role, he is better looking and significantly more likable.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
Funny enough, we already got a very similar premise to this as an episode of STAS
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A8z5kA8a9ak
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So what happens after the mobster realises Clark is Superman? He's locked away and nobody believes him by that point?

Reminds me of when Lex built a supercomputer to work out Superman's identity and when it spat out Clark Kent, Lex scrapped the computer as useless because Lex simply couldn't conceive the idea of someone as powerful as Superman living an ordinary humble life.

It's not often touched upon but I think one of the best defences against discovery Clark has is that whilst we the reader know Superman's mind and background, there is no reason for people in-Universe to even imagine he has a secret identity. He's just this powerful, colourful figure who shows up to help them. So far as they know, he's always Superman. They may or may not even know he lives at the North Pole. Like Santa. Does anybody go around asking who Santa's secret identity is? No - why would they?
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
I guess the CW Flash doesn’t exist. It isn’t like that Flash topped Netflix and CW viewership records.

Honestly, this Tweet is pure cope on all levels. The Flash was a big character throughout the 2010s. Even the part about women hating him is wrong, as the CW primarily appealed to that demographic. The movie was doomed to fail as it was part of a shit universe, had an awful lead actor and frankly wasn’t very good. Movie would have done better had they just got Grant to play the role, he is better looking and significantly more likable.
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I don't think its cope, more out of touch. Both Andy Machete and Zack Snyder failed to give a proper adaptation of heroes who are bright, optimistic, and friendly guys. Since both of them at their core are just batman fanboys who'd rather make their own Batman movie or something.

I guarantee Andy only decided to direct The Flash (a movie that already went through a gajillion directors + writers) just as a way for him to direct a Batman movie later. Like he sounded more excited about Michael Keaton and Ben Affleck than anything Flash related, even had The Flash worship Batman in the movie.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
I don't think its cope, more out of touch. Both Andy Machete and Zack Snyder failed to give a proper adaptation of heroes who are bright, optimistic, and friendly guys. Since both of them at their core are just batman fanboys who'd rather make their own Batman movie or something.
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Semi-related: What's the deal with Batman fanboy DC/WB employees hating on Superman so much?

Frank Miller created a comic where Batman punches Superman, and Snyder did the same in a movie. Even Bruce Timm—who admittedly wrote Superman well and gave him a classic TV series—had him cucked by Batman in their first crossover, with Bruce Wayne catching the attention of Lois Lane. Timm also admitted to making Superman seem weak, which is why he tried to make up for it with the "world of cardboard" scene.

https://www.cbr.com/justice-league-eliminated-super-wimp-superman/

It's always been odd to me because Batman vs. Superman feels like trying to bully the big, nice kid in class who just hit a growth spurt. He could easily crush you but would rather play during recess with you instead. I’ve never understood this obsession with Batman defeating everyone. I love Batman as much as most people, but why does it always translate to him being the best at everything? In fact, I find him more relatable when he’s highly competent but also fallible, just like we all are. How he was portrayed in The Batman was amazing for that.
 
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Mystery Spy said:
Even Bruce Timm—who admittedly wrote Superman well and gave him a classic TV series—had him cucked by Batman in their first crossover, with Bruce Wayne catching the attention of Lois Lane
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I will defend Timm on this one, this has actually been a long running storyline for the comics.
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Here is a video regarding one of the more infamous examples that got brought back for Crisis.

The rivalry for Lois Lane was so big even Robin got in and took her as the conclusion to one of the earlier comics.
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Seeing as STAS and BTAS were the perfect amalgamation of all eras of comics, it only made sense that the common 1950s crossover element would be brought in, that being the rivalry for Lois.
 
Did reddit invade this thread? Niggas in here bragging about shitty CW Flash and crying about Batman killing people.

Please, tell me more about this hopeful Superman the quirky, random millennial writing pedophile is bringing us.
 
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