Everybody always focuses on that speech and the couple of hits he lands on Darkseid, but forgets that it is IMMEDIATELY followed up by Darkseid easily immoblizing him (in an extremely painful way) and then preparing to kill him with a damn pocket knife. It's the equivalent of that one gif we've all see of the fighter doing a stupid endzone shuffle taunt in the ring before getting one-shot KO'd by the other fighter.
Superman is OP is not valid for 40 years, do tell lol
I'm sorry I'm not noticing this great variety in superhero fights in any media that you are seeing. Except in The Batman, Batman actually got shot many times and he had his suit armored appropriately for it
America needs to stop doing this.
Depends on the opponent, which is the bigger issue. Most Supes villains, hell most in DC, are OP and usually pretty on par with him. A character like Lobo or Zod are basic jobbers, yet have the same durability and powers as Superman. Even a Sinestro or Reverse Flash should give him a hard time given how wild they can be.
She's actually stronger
Stronk girl cope. One day she's potentially stronker than Superman some day in the future, next day while mind controlled and not holding back she straight up loses to Wonder Woman who straight up has lost or barely held her own against Superman going all out, Doomsday ragdolled Supergirl in Death of Superman while Superman killed him (while being killed by him), blah blah blah
And then Lex Luthor became the ultimate hero and saves the day. Brains > Brawn
The Post-Crisis nerf and he has a base level that he is kept at. He gets surges where he’s fucking up Imperiex after a Sun dip but he’s been pretty consistently tough but not indestructible.
I personally dislike the idea that being born gifted is being born with cheat codes. It's as likely to produce someone who coasts through life because they didn't have to learn to actually try until they got to university or post-grad level, or in industry until they actually got some way into their career.
Comics version? Of course not. Stephen Amel version? You bet!
The intersection between people who love comics and people who watched that show is barely a sliver. In fact, I'd say the first is almost incompatible with the latter unless you have super-human levels of ironic detachment.
That is like saying Columbo sucks because we know the murderer. The appeal of Superman is his character. We know he wins at the end, the question is how. He has to protect people. He has to expose the bad guys. As strong as he is, punching does not always help with his other goals. He can punch the bad guy at Mach 12 but the shockwave would destroy the surroundings. Him caring for others creates stakes.
Not saying he is literally invulnerable (I am exaggerating) but after the 20th time someone fired something at him and it didn't work, he would learn there is no point in dodging. He has withstood flamethrowers, lasers, bullets, rays and everything else. It is logical for him to grow somewhat complacent and then grow out of it as his enemies try stronger things. Superman should be like a hedgehog: Can run but staying where he is works better most of the time as it doesn't create sonic booms.
That is beside the point. Point is, Superman is surrounded by fragile buildings and creatures so he learned to hold back. Darkseid can take his punches but that is rare.
We all love a fun OP character. They might win most of the time without breaking a sweat but watching them can be fun. In the end, it is entertainment. Make the OP character compelling and/or fun and we will not mind. Superman, Saitama, Gojo, anyone can be liked as long as they are fun. Also, Lex is a threat because of his plans. Yes, he has armors and Kryptonite but also a sharp mind that makes him valuable to others. He finances the city, villains and other organizations which makes him hard to get rid off. His tentacles reach everywhere.
No.
This. For Clark, yellow sunlight has been making him ever stronger. Zod and Kara lack this amount of exposure. They DO have some advantages though. Both have combat training as Zod was a soldier while Kara had training due to the women in her family joining the military by tradition (this is newer lore iirc). Also, Zod comes with Kryptonian tech and henchmen of equal power. They are hardly equals but they manage.
Exactly. Such characters should hold back and choose to let loose. The writers tend to forget that.
You can have Superman struggle. Just not physically. He is not too weak to do anything. But everything else is fair game. Dealing with bombs that have a large radius and explode early if moved, finding ways to connect the bad guy to a crime, figuring out where hostages are on time, finding who is behind conspiracies or resolving a fight before anyone gets hurt. And that is what I just came up with.
They could've just tried to get Specter off his useless jobbing ass for once so he could actually show everyone what literally being the "wrath of God" is meant to be, but he probably would've found a way to fuck up and lose anyway.
I actually like Doomsday’s New 52 Diablo look, it should’ve kept the long hair but the devil horns are good. At the end of the day he’s just an excuse to have a Hulk in the rogues gallery.
Small correction: Superman is a fighter, Cap and Optimus are soldiers.
I too believe he relishes in the opportunity to get into a fight with someone who can take his punches and is asking for more as long as they keep the damage to a minimum.
Doomsday is fairly awesome when he is done right.
Plus him slaughtering the scientist who "made" him is very satisfying.
In fairness, that was also the era where Lex used a bed spring and and OJ concentrate container to make a time travel bazooka in prison.
