Debate Android Raptor on the finer merits of 4th trimester abortions

So then let people who don't want kids abort them as embryos if if the worst happens to prevent more people like me from coming into the world

Learn to close your legs. Have self control and not be a fucking whore.
She has stated multiple times that she's using an IUD to not get pregnant, and also not apparently sexually active anyway. More importantly, she's concerned about rape victims and believes them to be a significant portion of abortion users. Also also she's said multiple times that many abortion users are married women who accidentally get pregnant, often while attempting some form of BC.

I disagree with her too, but in reading the entire exhaustive thread, I'm really tired of seeing the pointless 'close your legs' argument repeated time and again.
 
She has stated multiple times that she's using an IUD to not get pregnant, and also not apparently sexually active anyway. More importantly, she's concerned about rape victims and believes them to be a significant portion of abortion users. Also also she's said multiple times that many abortion users are married women who accidentally get pregnant, often while attempting some form of BC.

I disagree with her too, but in reading the entire exhaustive thread, I'm really tired of seeing the pointless 'close your legs' argument repeated time and again.
There are millions of abortions performed yearly. While yeah, technically only a small fraction of them are reported as being due to rape, that's still thousands of abortions a year happening as a result of rape.

Already having kids and not having the capacity to care for more is a bigger percentage. Most women who have abortions are monogamous normies which naturally includes lots of married women.
You said you're a lesbian though. Why are you reading stuff about gay guys then?

Why are you lying?
The fujo->lesbian pipeline is a thing

Hell a good chunk of Japanese BL creators are lesbian or bi women. Apparently in Japan if you're female, unmarried in your 30s or older, and like BL, you're assumed to be a lesbian until proven otherwise, at least according to @Meiwaku
 
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She can't even hold down a job and refuses to fix any of her other problems or perceived problems but she's a lesbian and went to the effort of obtaining an IUD. :story:
Yeah it was the best 120 or w/e bucks I've ever spent. No more highly unwanted monthly subscription to Satan's Waterfall!
 
Im a degenerate fujo with some pretty degenerate fujo kinks

You said you're a lesbian though. Why are you reading stuff about gay guys then?

Why are you lying?
I'll await her answer, but I want to take a stab at this. I'm highly interested in understanding and empathizing with people who think very differently from myself, such as women and homosexuals. I'll use what I've learned to explain what may be happening, and should I be wrong, then hopefully I can learn something.

From some gay and lesbian acquaintances, whom I've asked some questions trying to understand their mindset. Really if you get right down to it and hold their feet to the fire, a great amount of 'homosexuals' would really be bisexual, meaning that under ideal circumstances they may still consider a sexual relationship with the opposite gender. However, they are attached to their gay identity and the gay community, and there's not really a bi community, nor is there much open support for bisexuals in the gay community. So for these social reasons they feel the need to 'pick a side.'

However beyond the side picking, it also is often that the prior mentioned 'ideal circumstances' are more like unrealistic. One example I know of is where a 'lesbian' I worked with, who was almost certainly a sexual abuse victim, said that 'men are pigs and dogs who treat women like meat.' She said the only man in her life that was ever kind to women was her grandpa, who treated her grandma like a queen. She said that she thinks that kind of chivalry and devotion is lost on the current generation and doesn't think she'd ever find a man like that, so she goes for chicks. But if hypothetically a man could actually earn her trust and demonstrate that he had a nature like she described then yes, she would be with him.

In both of these examples, sexuality and sexual identity are being defined by factors outside of simple physical attraction. I have a feeling, based on reading through her post history, that our dear Android Raptor may have been pushed towards lesbianism less by attraction than by repellant away from the significant negative male examples she has seen. The physical attraction, I personally believe in many cases, can develop gradually after one has already mentally accepted homosexuality as acceptable or even desirable. I must say I feel a bit ashamed for my fellow men, I'm sure KiwiFarms hasn't done anything to change her negative perception of us.

As for the whole fujo manga thing, I'm reminded of a quote from Victor Hugo (author of Les Miserables, one of the greatest works of fiction); "The first symptom of love in a young man is shyness; the first symptom in a woman, it's boldness."

How incredibly insightful this quote is, and I think subconsciously affects our desires and expectations. Men fantasize about bold confident women that take them aback, while women fantasize about shy and vulnerable men who make them feel emboldened.

Perhaps the whole fascination some women have with fantasies of two gay men, romantically falling for each other and displaying an echo femininity, is the sort of multiplication of this same effect.
 
I mean, I wanted to believe, but to have it confirmed is just :story::story::story::story:
Its a thing, ask @Meiwaku or pop into Lesbian Gen in Salon if you don’t believe me.

Tbh a lot of yaoi characters just look like flat-chested chicks, so it's one of those things that makes perfect sense in retrospect
 
Its a thing, ask @Meiwaku or pop into Lesbian Gen in Salon if you don’t believe me.

Tbh a lot of yaoi characters just look like flat-chested chicks, so it's one of those things that makes perfect sense in retrospect
Can you perhaps answer my greatest question re: fujos: what's with the exaggerated hands?
 
Can you perhaps answer my greatest question re: fujos: what's with the exaggerated hands?
Artists not getting paid enough to give a shit about proper anatomy

The actually good BL series tend to have better anatomy, like Kaze to ki no Uta (which was one of the main inspirations for Berserk)
 
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There are millions of abortions performed yearly. While yeah, technically only a small fraction of them are reported as being due to rape, that's still thousands of abortions a year happening as a result of rape.

Already having kids and not having the capacity to care for more is a bigger percentage. Most women who have abortions are monogamous normies which naturally includes lots of married women.
Here's the thing though ; Roe v. Wade was always going to be overturned, because it was constitutionally unsound. It solely existed as a stop gap and was always on borrowed time.
You've got a generation of women (and men) who have become so disconnected from the reality of their "rights", that they're using abortions, as birth control. Abortions - safe, legal, abortions - were never intended to be used for that reason. You have a generation of women relying on something that was always a false road. They did that to themselves with a lack of education on the issue.

Abortion was supposed to have some kind of gravitas attached to it. You're taking a life*. A life you didn't intend to create, but that was created.
It was supposed to function as a protective measure. But the system has been taken advantage of. People fell into a false sense of entitlement that abortion was a right, that it was just as simplistic as getting a wart removed.
This isn't about whether you believe life begins at creation or birth or w/e, either. An abortion is a serious medical procedure that is supposed to - even socio-historically - have some kind of weight assigned to it.
Abortion has always, always been a thing for the exact reasons you mentioned. People would go to the wise women or medicine men and seek out teas or herbs to assist with abortion. But they didn't do it with guiltless, reckless abandon. They didn't use abortions in place of common sense, planning, forethought and responsibility.
It also wasn't supposed to be easy or pleasant. It's supposed to have weight, "bad feelings", social stigma attached to it, because it's not a good nor healthy (mentally or physically) thing to do... repeatedly.

*That's where society has knotted its own noose on the issue. You're supposed to feel something towards life, whether it be in a form we see as recognizable or not. People don't realize that going down the "clump of cells" route, really reactivates the debate FOR race realism. We're supposed to have some kind of common ground of respect for life, in all its forms, even if it is not in an acceptable form to all.

Either way, aside from living on borrowed time as a constitutional issue, progressives really fucked the pooch in the past few years with all their insanity - coof, vaccine mandates, gender issues, guns etc. Pushing to have it all one way isn't a good strategy.
 
Its a thing, ask @Meiwaku or pop into Lesbian Gen in Salon if you don’t believe me.

Tbh a lot of yaoi characters just look like flat-chested chicks, so it's one of those things that makes perfect sense in retrospect
Sounds pedo-y. Lesbian watching weird Japanese porn because they look like flat, immature girls...yep. As I suspected. :thinking:

A lot of people who virulently hate kids do so because they feel the kids are tempting them. Noticed that. :thinking:
 
Sounds pedo-y. Lesbian watching weird Japanese porn because they look like flat, immature girls...yep. As I suspected. :thinking:

A lot of people who virulently hate kids do so because they feel the kids are tempting them. Noticed that. :thinking:
So does that mean you're sexually attracted to lesbians, since you virulently hate them?
Abusers which she's admitted don't actually exist, mind you.
My parents unfortunately exist. Too bad my mom's mom especially didn't abort, unironically would've saved a lot of suffering from ultimately happening.
 
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Me rn reading all this
 

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