Debate Android Raptor on the finer merits of 4th trimester abortions

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Technically removal of an already dead fetus is still an abortion. I would hope red states allow women to abort fetuses that have already died.

No. The medical terminology has no bearing on the legal terminology. In medical practice abortion can be synonymous with miscarriage, similar to how ‘anorexia’ can clinically mean loss of appetite. For legal purposes an ‘abortion’ is the willful termination of a pregnancy before it’s viability date. No one is going to let a woman go septic with a dead baby because a doctor calls it a ‘spontaneous abortion’. If an actual abortion is suspected and it’s a penalized act then they will do urine test for mifepristone. A woman who hasn’t procured drugs for illegal purposes has literally nothing to be afraid of.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

No. The medical terminology has no bearing on the legal terminology. In medical practice abortion can be synonymous with miscarriage, similar to how ‘anorexia’ can clinically mean loss of appetite. For legal purposes an ‘abortion’ is the willful termination of a pregnancy before it’s viability date. No one is going to let a woman go septic with a dead baby because a doctor calls it a ‘spontaneous abortion’. If an actual abortion is suspected and it’s a penalized act then they will do urine test for mifepristone. A woman who hasn’t procured drugs for illegal purposes has literally nothing to be afraid of.

The cases where doctors have allowed that to happen have been either general medical malpractice/delayed treatment due to staff being morons, OR, in a couple cases in places like Poland, grandstanding pro-abortion doctors making a point by playing around with someone else's life.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

But I wanted to thank you retards for helping me blow off steam during some bad IRL times

Seriously, I love all you speds

Oh, did little baby android raptor finally tire herself out and get enough attention?

Well that's good, people should leave KF happier or wiser than when they came in, and I doubt anyone is leaving this wiser.

 

[Mr Bunny]

Oh, did little baby android raptor finally tire herself out and get enough attention?

Well that's good, people should leave KF happier or wiser than when they came in, and I doubt anyone is leaving this wiser.

Idk I learned that raptor pussy isn't as scaly as I first thought.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Yeah I do find strange that she's got an IUD in despite claiming to be a lesbian. Unless I skipped that part. They don't protect against STD's so why bother? are you afraid of getting raped that bad that you need to shove an IUD in? at that point just don't even go outside. Or learn to not walk down the street at night alone, it's literally not that hard.

If you knowingly put yourself in danger because you didn't trust your gut you probably weren't long for this world anyway.

There are nonhormonal and hormonal IUDs. If she has emotional problems and/or health issues like endo related to her period, she'd probably be on a hormonal one. It's common for women with mental illnesses to get worse around their period. Not always in the "I hate my period/uterus!" way but more their mental issues are just worsened by the hormonal changes. They also help with acne, PCOS and excessive hair in females. It can also suppress your period, which is good for women who just can't/don't want to deal with their period.
Probably also a contingency in the rare case she was raped. You're right about IUDs being extremely effective. Maybe also worrying about if she got pregnant and got an ectopic pregnancy but abortion was illegal so she can't get rid of it?

Ok as fun as it's been I think I'm gonna dip here, this has been a fun way to blow off steam while trying and failing to save a dying frog all weekend but I think I'm done.

Prolife for frogs gang??

 

[Skitarii]

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I remember this bitch's trial went for so long without any verdict. May she rot in her prison cell until she rots in the great fire beneath the Earth

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I remember this bitch's trial went for so long without any verdict. May she rot in her prison cell until she rots in the great fire beneath the Earth

Isn't she free though?

 

[I am vomit]

I remember this bitch's trial went for so long without any verdict. May she rot in her prison cell until she rots in the great fire beneath the Earth

shes been free since like 2011

 

[Skitarii]

shes been free since like 2011

Nvm, I hope someone runs her over with a semi

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Maybe also worrying about if she got pregnant and got an ectopic pregnancy but abortion was illegal so she can't get rid of it?

Absolutely no state with any restrictive abortion laws consider ending an ectopic pregnancy as an abortion. Even the Catholic Church, which teaches that life begins at conception, and is hardline pro life, says removing an ectopic pregnancy is not abortion. Any news article or person claiming otherwise is fear mongering and simply lying to mislead.

 

[thismanlies]

Personally I don’t approve of stomping babies.

Throwing banana peels in front of pregnant women as they’re walking down stairs, that’s a different story.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Personally I don’t approve of stomping babies.

Throwing banana peels in front of pregnant women as they’re walking down stairs, that’s a different story.

Stomping babies is definitely not cool. But throwing banana peels in front of pregnant women as they’re walking down stairs? That’s just hilarious! Joe Rogan would approve.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Absolutely no state with any restrictive abortion laws consider ending an ectopic pregnancy as an abortion. Even the Catholic Church, which teaches that life begins at conception, and is hardline pro life, says removing an ectopic pregnancy is not abortion. Any news article or person claiming otherwise is fear mongering and simply lying to mislead.

Most of these arguments fall into this realm anyway. The rape argument for example doesn't make much sense when you actually examine it. If a woman is raped and then goes to the hospital, they're required by law to administer drugs both to prevent STDs and to prevent pregnancy unless the victim refuses.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/guidelines-treatment-suspected-rape-victims

 

[Haramburger]

Well that's good, people should leave KF happier or wiser than when they came in, and I doubt anyone is leaving this wiser.

This is a pleasant outlook all users should have

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Idk I learned that raptor pussy isn't as scaly as I first thought.

Of course it isn't. Raptors were just flightless birds cosplaying as dinosaurs.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Absolutely no state with any restrictive abortion laws consider ending an ectopic pregnancy as an abortion. Even the Catholic Church, which teaches that life begins at conception, and is hardline pro life, says removing an ectopic pregnancy is not abortion. Any news article or person claiming otherwise is fear mongering and simply lying to mislead.

I know of that Irish case of the Indian woman this happened to but yeah, I'd hope prolife lawmakers were smart enough to know what ectopic pregnancies are. I think bc of that Irish case, ppl feel like any restriction could lead to that or be abused in some way, so better to do away with them entirely.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

I know of that Irish case of the Indian woman this happened to but yeah, I'd hope prolife lawmakers were smart enough to know what ectopic pregnancies are. I think bc of that Irish case, ppl feel like any restriction could lead to that or be abused in some way, so better to do away with them entirely.

I doubt a case that happened in Ireland a decade ago is in the forefront of people’s minds, but she didn’t die of ectopic pregnancy regardless. She miscarried at 17 weeks (ectopic pregnancies pose threat way before then) and the doctors wouldn’t remove the fetus until it subsequently died as well. She died of sepsis from the bacterial infection that caused her to miscarry in the first place. Ireland already had a clause to their abortion law stating that an abortion could be preformed if the life of the mother is at risk. This was medical malpractice more than anything, since ‘watch and wait’ is the standard for miscarriage in hospitals. Arguably an abortion might not of saved her anyway if the infection was already in her bloodstream and she wasn’t receiving treatment for that. The fact that they didn’t test for infection while she was showing clear signs of sepsis was the biggest problem.

 

[AnOminous]

Ireland already had a clause to their abortion law stating that an abortion could be preformed if the life of the mother is at risk. This was medical malpractice more than anything, since ‘watch and wait’ is the standard for miscarriage in hospitals.

And if you make the wrong call you go to prison or at best lose your license. If you let the patient die, well, so what, your malpractice insurance will cover it.

 

[Android raptor]

Of course it isn't. Raptors were just flightless birds cosplaying as dinosaurs.

But birds ARE dinosaurs though. And they're very closely related to dromaeosaurs, so close that certain species have been debated as whether they should be classified as dromaeosaurs or Aves proper (like balaur).

Or put it this way, velociraptor is more closely related to birds than it is to t rex, stegosaurus, etc etc

I lied, I came back to sperg about dinosaurs

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

But birds ARE dinosaurs though. And they're very closely related to dromaeosaurs, so close that certain species have been debated as whether they should be classified as dromaeosaurs or Aves proper (like balaur).

Or put it this way, velociraptor is more closely related to birds than it is to t rex, stegosaurus, etc etc

I lied, I came back to sperg about dinosaurs

Saying raptors are actually terrestrial avian dinosaurs cosplaying as non-avian dinosaurs doesn't have as nice of a ring to it.