Debate user cursed on incest being okay - It's okay to fuck your own parents.

cursed said:
You are mentioning an anecdotal case to somehow prove all people who engage in incest have psychological problems. There are two reasons why there are many cases of incest tainted by issues like that or molestation. One is that when society has a strong taboo towards something it will be mostly the misfits and undesirables the ones who dare break those taboos. If playing videogames was such a huge taboo in our society you would see mostly fucked up people doing it.
The other reason is that most cases of molestation happen around family members. For a pederast the easiest way to have access to kids is his or her own family. This is why so many people who have experienced incest are victims.
The problem is not incest itself. We should be able to separate incest from other kind of circumstantial behaviours that can happen around it same way we should separate the idea of homosexuality from the idea of AIDs or pederasty. These things might often go together but they are not one and the same thing, the same way incest not only happens in a context of sexual abuse, it can also happen between two consenting adults.


As I said before I think the aversion towards incest is mostly cultural. The fact that its a (almost) universal taboo means that behind it underlies a universal desire. There would be no taboo if the behaviour wasnt common enough.
As for nature, it probably has its own mechanisms to reduce the likelihood of sex between relatives but it doesnt completely prevents it.
And as for if it would destroy families if not banned, I think its abuse and impure intentions what would destroy the family more than the incest itself. Some islander tribes practice incest and that didnt prevent them from existing as societies.
I do agree that in our society it would be difficult for healthy forms of incest to arise due to the effects persecution has had and the factors mentioned above but I suspect that if incest was suddenly considered ok and became part of our culture, other social norms would arise around it to regulate it and prevent it from damaging families same way these tribes probably have rules to prevent incest from degenerating into exploitation and abuse. Rules that we don't have because we have banned the whole thing and therefore made it a behaviour that only misfits with preexisting issues engage in.
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You sir are a NIGGER and a genuine MOTHERFUCKER. Incest creates genetically defective children, breaks down the insular love and trust between parents and children, and is ABOMINABLE. Find an unrelated woman to fuck, you WEST VIRGINIAN JUNGLEBUG

Leviticus 18:7 - "The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness."
 
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Sped Xing said:
I think it's more accurately described as a site dedicated to autistic morons. When you look at it that way, it makes sense.
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Does this mean the members are autistic morons?
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The Last Stand said:
Why join in 2017 and come back only to talk about incest?
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The incest incident was a pretty important event so I thought it would be worth checking the farms. Honestly I didn't even remember I had an account.
I talk about incest cos that's what the topic of the current discussions and because it shocked me to see so many people who disregard basic freedoms and support totalitarian and draconian laws.
 
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cursed said:
The incest incident was a pretty important event so I thought it would be worth checking the farms. Honestly I didn't even remember I had an account.
I talk about incest cos that's what the topic of the current discussions and because it shocked me to see so many people who disregard basic freedoms and support totalitarian and draconian laws.
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You look at the Habsburgs and you tell me that incest is a good idea.
 
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Smells incest supporting enough...
Now, who's gonna advocate kiddie diddlers, hm?
 
Using this same logic of consenting partners being completely aware of what they're doing, you could argue that a 13 year old has the right to do the dirty with a 30 year old if they both were DTF, and that anyone protesting against it is just clutching pearls and needs to mind their own business.

What is your take on this, @cursed?
 
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Using this same logic of consenting partners being completely aware of what they're doing, you could argue that a 13 year old has the right to do the dirty with a 30 year old if they both were DTF, and that anyone protesting against it is just clutching pearls and needs to mind their own business.

What is your take on this, @cursed?
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I don't have a firm opinion on what the age of consent should be. On one side an early start at sex does seem to have a negative effect on the female psyche. So it depends on if the 13 year old is a boy or a girl. On the other side I think the only person who knows if they are consenting or not is the person themself and that the idea of some judge telling you if you consented or not is absurd.
Id probably set the age of consent around that age tho.
 
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cursed said:
I don't have a firm opinion on what the age of consent should be. On one side an early start at sex does seem to have a negative effect on the female psyche. So it depends on if the 13 year old is a boy or a girl. On the other side I think the only person who knows if they are consenting or not is the person themself and that the idea of some judge telling you if you consented or not is absurd.
Id probably set the age of consent around that age tho.
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Good to know.
 
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Yeah, actually. He most likely was raping her every three days, given all the info we have now. You're the one reaching to any other possibility to defend your weird views on sex and family dynamics. That's why I think your reasoning is fucking retarded. Occam's razor is not perfect and shouldn't be used in every instance, but you do the opposite and reach for ANY other possibility in order to defend your stance. It's backwards thinking.
It's obvious you're someone with little social experience, and you have absurd ideas about rape and incest because of it. Someone who actually understands social situations would know that not every rape is literally forcing a woman down and violently fucking her. There are tons of ways a person can be forced to have sex against their will and not say anything or fight back. Are you a fan of Always Sunny? Remember the "implications" episode?
They would also understand that a big part of incest is the power dynamic between parent and child. It's not healthy to anyone's well being. Call me authoritarian, but yes, the government should restrict some degenerate activities not only because they are "gross" but because their retard offspring will be the responsibility of society to deal with.
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What info are you talking about? Even the cops only charged him with incest. In any case we just have to wait and see if he is convicted of rape (and what kind of rape)
Yes, there are several ways in which a person can be forced to have sex against their will. Some are rape and some are not.
Id rather have a nuanced vision of it than the everything goes inside the rape bag mentality that imperates now. As I said before, I blame feminism.
You talk about power dynamics but Incest can also be between too siblings that are the same age. If there is manipulation or abuse then the problem is not the incest itself, its something else. You can ban that something else and allow consensual incest.
The retarded offspring is not the reason why its banned, mostly because dysgenic people keep having kids without any punishment.
Also as I said many times in these debates already contraceptives exist.
You can ban inbreeding and allow incest.
 
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