Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[Sumptinsfuckey]

So, what was the point of this thread?

Null wanted to prove he's still the dumbest nigger on the site?

 

[quaawaa]

Lmao the food options in the rural parts of my state are Womart/Piggly Wiggly/etc, Family Dollar, the gas station, and if you have a buddy that hunts. Less than that if you don't have a car. There's a reason you see a higher concentration of deathfats in the boonies than more populated areas.

The main thing people are cooking in the sticks is meth.

You live in Atlanta. Don't you dare besmirch rural Georgia.

 

[libRT]

Cheese is heresy

 

[Registration]

@stalkerchild

So you have something like "Feira", where farmers get together near urban areas to sell natural stuff, fruits, cheese, meat, all stuff that they produce is sold directly by the farmer to you, without being sold in a supermarket/grocery store.

Here it happens 3 times a week, so you get fresh stuff always (yesterday bought some bananas and oranges)



You dont need to go to the farmers, the farmers come to you, and it is so walkable that even if you buy lots of stuff, you would have a special cart to store and pull it back home



This is common in the whole country, you have set dates and it happens for centuries already.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

Lmao the food options in the rural parts of my state are Womart/Piggly Wiggly/etc, Family Dollar, the gas station, and if you have a buddy that hunts. Less than that if you don't have a car. There's a reason you see a higher concentration of deathfats in the boonies than more populated areas.

The main thing people are cooking in the sticks is meth.

You're building a causal chain that isn't necessarily valid. Could it be possible that access has less to do with outcomes than the character of the people involved? That low IQ wiggers will make poor dietary choices regardless of where they live or how close by a decent grocer is located? You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

 

[Android raptor]

I like the freedom, I couldn't fathom living without my own car. I think a lot of car culture in the US is rooted in our high valuation of independence, it acts as a symbol for our identity.

It's mostly rooted in car companies being in the pockets of law makers forcing everyone to be cucked to them with no other options.

 

[Anti Snigger]

@stalkerchild

So you have something like "Feira", where farmers get together near urban areas to sell natural stuff, fruits, cheese, meat, all stuff that they produce is sold directly by the farmer to you, without being sold in a supermarket/grocery store.

Here it happens 3 times a week, so you get fresh stuff always (yesterday bought some bananas and oranges)

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You dont need to go to the farmers, the farmers come to you, and it is so walkable that even if you buy lots of stuff, you would have a special cart to store and pull it back home

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This is common in the whole country, you have set dates and it happens for centuries already.

Nigga we have these in the US, we call them farmer's markets. You're not special

 

[Anti Snigger]

It's mostly rooted in car companies being in the pockets of law makers forcing everyone to be cucked to them with no other options.

I didn't realize the size of the US was a conspiracy by car companies. They really played the long game with the lousiana purchase

 

[AnOminous]

Often they have flavor or ingredients or preparation style not as common in the USA, and the USA legally does not allow (for example) the sale of raw milk cheeses (unless aged).

Sausages and cured meats from Latino countries are some of the best in the world, mostly South American but also Spanish and Portugese.

Linguica in particular is a huge standout. I suppose as Portugese that counts as European. And Jamon Iberico.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

I like the freedom, I couldn't fathom living without my own car. I think a lot of car culture in the US is rooted in our high valuation of independence, it acts as a symbol for our identity.

I agree with that, but I would rather have a car and walk most of the time. I think the point is moot, cars in America are a necessity due to the way the infrastructure and distances between things work. I always get a good laugh when Europeans talk or apologize about a "long drive."

 

[Android raptor]

You're building a causal chain that isn't necessarily valid. Could it be possible that access has less to do with outcomes than the character of the people involved? That low IQ wiggers will make poor dietary choices regardless of where they live or how close by a decent grocer is located? You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

Maybe, but not having any decent source of fresh, healthy food and means of getting to it doesn't help at all. Especially not when you have no time to prepare it (time poverty is also a thing).

 

[Anti Snigger]

I agree with that, but I would rather have a car and walk most of the time. I think the point is moot, cars in America are a necessity due to the way the infrastructure and distances between things work. I always get a good laugh when Europeans talk or apologize about a "long drive."

I'm not saying I don't walk around, I do pretty frequently depending on the weather, but it's undeniable that having the ability to get up and go wherever the hell you want is objectively a plus. I cannot fathom the mental cuckery Euros are subject to in order to think it's somehow a bad thing

 

[Sneeder Griffin]

I'm not going to post any photos since I don't want to risk doxing myself. However, I'll address all three of your points.

Cheese: The US is one of the largest manufacturers of cheese per capita in the world, even though most of our cheese comes from only two states, Wisconsin and California. It is true that Americans tend to only eat a small variety of cheeses (American, Cheddar, Mozzarella), mostly due to American dietary preferences leaning towards those three cheeses as ingredients in hamburgers, pizza, soup, pasta, etc..., rather than eating them directly. However, virtually any kind of cheese is available in the Upper Midwest or California, with some varieties like Colby Jack, Emmental/Swiss, Provolone, Pepper Jack, and various kinds of cheese curds achieving success outside of the cheeses you listed. Cheese variety may have been limited in Florida, due to Florida having no local cows, and US consumers mostly stick to processed cheese due to their lower costs and greater availability in low income and urban areas, but the US is one of the largest and most renowned cheese producing countries in the world.

Bread: Like with cheese, most Americans buy just regular processed supermarket bread, due to its lower cost and greater availability in low income and urban areas. However, there are plenty of bakeries all across the US that, while they tend to focus on bakery and cakes due to their higher profitability, also produce fresh bread baked in-house. Also, bread is rather easy to make yourself and the ingredients to do so can be found in almost any supermarket.

Meat: What you say about American meat is generally true. However, generally speaking, meat quality depends more on the particular cut of meat, rather than the meat came from a "local" farm or not. Much like produce, an excellent cut of normal processed meat will taste better than a poor cut of fresher, locally sourced meat. Also, even if getting guaranteed locally sourced meat was possible, it would be exorbitantly expensive and only affordable to the ultra wealthy, while everyone else is stuck with goyslop.

In conclusion, while you do make some excellent points, high quality fresh goods are available in the US. However, some parts of the US may not have access to some fresh products, due to urban sprawl and some regions lacking the ability to produce certain goods. Also, due to the massive wage gap and the vanishing middle class due to neoliberal capitalist policies, only the wealthy bourgeoisie can afford to buy high quality products on a regular basis. It's not that Americans enjoy eating goyslop and prefer it to high quality fresh goods, but rather that goyslop is the only food they can afford, as the alternative is starvation or having a bland "fresh" diet consisting entirely of potatoes, rice, and beans.

As other countries start following America's lead in embracing neoliberalism, the capitalist oligarchies in those countries will start gentrifying those countries, erasing their traditional culture and industries and causing massive inflation and gentrification for the sake of increasing their relative wealth. We are already starting to see goyslop take over Canada and Western Europe as the wage gap becomes larger and larger and high quality products become less and less affordable. Eastern European countries like Serbia have held out longer, since the Soviet Union (and to a lesser extent Putin's Russia) helped preserve local traditions and industry and resisted American globohomo imperialism for several decades. However, as Eastern Europe grows closer to the US and NATO due to the special operation in Ukraine, they will slowly turn into miniature Americas, causing the erasure of the middle class and the resulting death of high quality local goods in favor or mass produced cheaper goyslop.

 

[888Flux]

I didn't realize the size of the US was a conspiracy by car companies. They really played the long game with the lousiana purchase

umm achkually the 5 hour video essay by Not Just Bikes said so, are you really going to need me to bring out the fact checker on this one? stupid americans can't even fathom walkable cities or public transport.... we euros are so much better than you backwards savages, did i mention we have universal healthcare and beheadings?

 

[Android raptor]

You live in Atlanta. Don't you dare besmirch rural Georgia.

I've been to rural GA and seen this shit firsthand. I have been inside more than a few Piggly Wigglies in my day and witnessed the giant pile of pig parts in the middle of where vegetables are supposed to be.

 

[dvnc]

The rest of the country (sans maybe California) is nicer than a state

You've never been to NYC and it shows.

 

[Racist Trash]

I haven't read the thread so rate me late if necessary but has anyone pointed out to Null that Cheddar is a British cheese not an American one? It's named after a town in England. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar,_Somerset

Statistically cheddar is not the most popular cheese in America it's Mozzarella. Which is because it's the primary cheese used in Pizza. It's consumed significantly more in it's country of origin.

American Chedder and British Chedder are different stemming from the different locations used to mature it, the old chalk caves of Somerset led to a very dry environment to mature in meanwhile US Cheddar makers had to deal with damper caves leading to waterproof coatings being required and a longer maturation process leading to a much sharper result.
Edit: I'm retarded and only bothered to look up the details after posting like a tard of the stuff I misremembered, it wasn't chalk it was limestone caves that had some humidity but allowed it to be cloth wrapped allowing the cheese to breath.

 

[Dickus Biggus]

Days without Null being retarded:0

You ran away from Trannies lol

 

[Registration]

Nigga we have these in the US, we call them farmer's markets. You're not special

The problem is that you guys refuse to use, instead choosing to drive to fucksville to buy potatos from wallmart.

 

[AnOminous]

Cities are shit-holes for many reasons, and are food deserts outside of some white enclaves.

South American and Asian enclaves can be pretty good too. South Americans generally protect their turf from less savory minorities and have excellent meat, produce, bread, and cheeses, although usually not the French kind. Also they don't hate white people (well not that much anyway).